Inside the Online Far Right’s ‘Glowie’ Obsession - Don't be alarmed, it's just a conspiracy theory of the paranoid

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The Far Right’s Fear of ‘Glowies’ (archive)

In the aftermath of the January 6 riot, extremists have become obsessed with the federal agents who might lurk among them.

OLGA KHAZAN 25/1/2021 7:00 AM ET

Judging by the actions of those who stormed the Capitol, far-right extremists don’t fear arrest. But they do fear one thing: glowies.

During the Trump administration, many far-right groups’ main concern was figuring out how to recruit more people to the cause. But as federal law-enforcement officials continue to round up people suspected of involvement in the January 6 insurrection at the Capitol, and Joe Biden’s administration promises a crackdown on white-supremacist and anti-government radicals, extremists are on the verge of a crack-up, posting widely and worriedly about spies in their midst—“glowies.” That’s the term far-right groups use to describe people they suspect of being federal law-enforcement agents or informants infiltrating their communication channels, trying to catch them plotting violence, or prodding them into illegal acts.

The term is in widespread use among extremists: On January 6, one Telegram user made their channel, which was popular with the far right, private because “nameless faceless glowies are joining.” Two days later, another person suggested that glowies would “float dead cop story, to redirect public attention and sympathy,” referring to the death of the Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick, who was beaten with a fire extinguisher during the riot and later died. One user recommended downloading an alternative platform, ZeroNet, saying, “Glowies cannot take it down.”

Screenshots of these Telegram channels were provided to me by Meghan Conroy, who researches far-right extremism at Moonshot CVE, an organization that aims to counter violent extremism. In addition, I found variations on the “glow” terminology all over 4chan, the imageboard that froths with racist and misogynist messages, and on TheDonald.win, the far-right successor to the pro-Trump subreddit r/The_Donald. All three platforms featured discussions of storming the Capitol in the days leading up to January 6.

Extremists have become more wary of real or perceived glowies since January 6. On the January 11, someone on 4chan asked, “What kind of shit should I get for the boogaloo?,” meaning the civil war that the far-right boogaloo bois are preparing for. This, another person responded, seemed like “glow”—the potential sign of an FBI agent. The same thing happened when another user asked about the best place to store guns. On TheDonald.win, someone suggested that the death of Ashli Babbitt, the woman killed during the Capitol riot, was possibly staged or orchestrated by glowies. “Since all you glowies are here looking for ‘Domestic Terrorists,’” another wrote, “Look in the mirror then apologize for Ruby Ridge you sick fucks,” referring to the 1992 siege by U.S. Marshals in Idaho that led to the deaths of three people.

“With increased content moderation by platforms and tons of researchers/analysts paying more attention to the right, it appears these folks want to keep the momentum of the sixth going but are afraid to talk about it openly,” Conroy told me via email.

Federal law enforcement, of course, has a long history of monitoring extremist groups. FBI informants infiltrated both the far-left Weather Underground and the Ku Klux Klan, among others. The FBI declined to comment on whether its agents or informants are currently monitoring far-right communications channels or posting in them directly. But federal agents don’t have to be actively watching the channels to complicate the extremists’ mission. Being watched makes planning harder. So does constant suspicion. The mere possibility of glowies among the militias might be enough to reduce the threat of extremist violence in the coming months.

Far-right forums are rife with racism and misogyny, so perhaps it’s no surprise that glowie derives from the language of hate. The term originated with Terry Davis, a computer programmer who had schizophrenia and harbored paranoid conspiracies about the government. Davis used a racial slur to describe federal agents glowing in the dark in a 2017 video. Because the internet is a strange place, the term took off, becoming popular on 4chan’s white-nationalist /pol/ board and spreading to other platforms.

Glowie has also sprouted other permutations: Someone who seems suspicious is said to be “glowing.” Seeming too much like an FBI agent—known as an “alphabet” in these forums—is called “glowposting.”

For instance, asking a question like “Do you know where I can get schematics for 3-D-printed guns?” might be considered glowposting, because it suggests that the user is attempting to lure his interlocutor toward committing a crime, says Hampton Stall, a senior researcher at the Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project and the founder of the MilitiaWatch blog. If someone is suspected of being a federal agent or an informant for the FBI, other group members will “fedjacket” him or her, making the case about why the person is secretly a snitch. To prevent feds from joining, some forums have devised elaborate vetting procedures. For instance, they’ll ask potential members to send a picture of one of their biceps, on the theory that a reverse image search will reveal whether the picture is original. Also, “they’re very bro-ey,” Stall told me.

Then there’s “glowing,” which is talking about things that are violent and threatening—and therefore likely to attract the attention of cops. In a chat on the Element messenger app that Conroy is in, people have asked, for example, “How brightly are we allowed to glow here?” Or, as part of a conversation about the apparent desire to execute members of Congress, one user said, “Yeah, I’d say every single congresscritter needs to go.” “That’s my kind of glowing right there,” another user responded.

In order to attempt to cover their tracks, extremists will sometimes spell out their violent desires, then quickly add, “in Minecraft.” Because you can’t get arrested for wanting to kill people in a video game, right?

The meaning of glowies has evolved over time. In addition to referring to feds, the term is sometimes applied to dissenters, anti-fascists, or tech companies that might try to take down far-right forums. “If somebody gets out of line in the chat, they accuse them of being antifa,” Stall said.

It’s hard to impersonate the subculture of a group you don’t belong to, so newcomers tend to write messages that read as slightly off, a “How do you do, fellow kids?” from an interloper. The members think, “This could be law enforcement, this could be antifa, but it’s probably not Joe White Supremacist,” says Mark Pitcavage, a senior research fellow at the Center on Extremism at the Anti-Defamation League. “Anybody who strikes them as being different from the crowd is raising alarm bells with them.”

Still, the extremists’ glow-dar isn’t very good, Stall said. They miss people who are very obviously federal agents, or they accuse random users of glowing because they’ll say something like “Time to kill all Democrats.” Police officers who sympathize with white supremacists have been accused of glowing when they actually appear to be trying to help the extremists’ cause.

Extremists’ suspicion of law enforcement might seem strange, given that off-duty police officers were among the mob who stormed the Capitol earlier this month. But although far-right extremists tend to see local law enforcement as the ultimate authority, federal agents, to many of them, are extensions of the federal government, and therefore illegitimate.

In fact, as Arie Perliger, a professor of security studies at UMass Lowell, pointed out in a recent paper, even as law-enforcement officers have joined the ranks of far-right militias, militias have increased their attacks on law-enforcement and military targets. “You can be a police officer, but if you’re not someone who’s part of their constituency,” Perliger told me, “you’re the enemy.”

Many people who have expressed support for the Capitol insurrection talk of glowies, but it’s not yet clear how many of the people who actually seized the building are familiar with the term. Though dozens of known white supremacists who were on a terrorist watch list joined in the Capitol attack, as The Washington Post reported, the mob also included everyone from a horned shaman to a tech CEO. Members of militias like the Oath Keepers and the Three Percenters also appeared to be there, but several experts told me those groups don’t typically use online lingo like glowing, which is more commonly used by younger, more tech-savvy radicals.

Regardless of their affiliation, the rioters largely saw the day as a success. To some, it was a sign that the broad far-right movement is growing in strength. “The race war that they really fantasize about, you know, ‘It feels like that we can actually bring this to fruition now, that we’re really gathering steam following what happened on the 6th,’” Peter Simi, a sociologist at Chapman University who studies extremists, told me. Counterterrorism officials are predicting that the boogaloo movement, in particular, might commit additional violence in the coming weeks.

That’s especially likely because the Biden administration will stoke these groups’ rage. “The history of the militia movement for the past four years has been them scrounging around to find other enemies to spend energy on—antifa, Democrats in Congress, governors doing lockdown measures, Black Lives Matter, all sorts of other things to occupy their time,” Pitcavage, of the Anti-Defamation League, told me. “But with Biden as president, it’s quite possible that they will revert to form and once more become extremely antagonistic to the federal government and grow.”

And though extremists have recently been kicked off mainstream sites like Facebook and Twitter, they are still active on more esoteric platforms, such as Gab, Rocket.Chat, MeWe, Signal, Rumble, DLive, BitChute, and AR15.com, among others.

Still, even in these obscure corners of the internet, they might be right to be paranoid about glowies. “There’s a long history of law enforcement infiltrating these groups,” Simi said. It’s highly likely that federal agents are actually monitoring these forums today, several experts told me. Trump ignored the threat of domestic terrorism for much of his presidency, but federal law enforcement has cracked down on the groups somewhat in the past year. Federal agents charged several boogaloo bois last fall, and last winter agents arrested the former leader of the white-supremacist group Atomwaffen Division for planning “swat” attacks on journalists and other foes.

Social media has long empowered militias and other far-right groups, and experts told me their banishment from mainstream platforms like Facebook could impede their growth. Every time a forum gets shut down, the extremists have to find a new home, a disruptive waste of their time. “The more time that they have to spend reorganizing and recalibrating is less time that they can spend planning more concrete, dangerous activity,” Micah Clark, a Moonshot CVE program director, told me. “A lot of the far right has had free rein on the internet for years longer than they should have.” Now, he said, these groups “are freaking out, because they sense that things are changing.” Some forums urged members not to attend protests on Inauguration Day, saying it might be an opportunity for entrapment.

But even if federal-agent infiltration doesn’t lead to any arrests, it might serve another useful purpose. These extremist groups, which were already predisposed to paranoia, now have something to be paranoid about. Real or perceived glowies are putting a healthy fear into these groups, which thrive on the premise that they are on the right side of history. It’s humbling to go from being a well-regarded CEO to being judged a criminal and a terrorist.

These days, the Capitol rioters might be thinking, as Clark put it, “I have all this privilege, and I might have just thrown a lot of it away.” The white men at the apex of American society don’t fear much. But they do fear falling to the bottom.
 
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Nah, I just read what you posted 2 minutes ago in the post that I was replying you. You should try reading posts you are replying to, it'd make you come off as less of a retard.


CHAZ is retarded, but they weren't trying to overthrow democracy like the retards at the capitol did. Again, why are you okay with the insurrection but not BLM riots?

what the fuck do you think autonomous means?

and i've already answered your question a million times. i'm more outraged at BLM riots because actual people got hurt. i could give two shits about some broken window and some politicians who want me dead having to fake being scared for an hour.
 
I believe I will forever be amazed that a Terry Davis quip turned /g/ turned /pol/ turned chan turned reddit turned facebook meme has spread so far to the point most people have no idea what the joke is anymore.
But if I was in a group that talked shit about the feds or current state of things, I'd be on high alert for glow niggers too for reasons already mentioned.
 
If you break the law, you can expect law enforcement to do something about it. It's not a hard concept.
For once I'm not starting shit with you here lol.

The thing is, the fact that they didn't take this riot and street fighting shit seriously for 4 years and now they're acting like everyone is a media goldfish who literally cannot remember more than 2 weeks prior is the issue. Where was "if they break the law then they pay the price" while attacking and killing police, burning things, and shiting all over every institution they could, destroying monuments and trying to erase History while screaming death to america? Now America is sacred?

Don't you find that a bit strange? I mean we all like to pretend the normie center is completely retarded around here but even the most "don't rock the boat" people I know irl are watching who's getting walked vs. charged and saying "Wait, this doesn't make sense."

The Harris administration has, in the span of 4 days, become despised by all but the most fanatical Dem NPC's. I don't think I've ever seen someone trip over their dick that fast. Think about the fact that his first fucking orders are back to the eternal war and "oh hey, you women that voted for me? FUCK YOU FRONTHOLE HAVING TERF!"

Is this really what you voted for man? I mean hate Trump all you like, you do you, but can you really argue that this is what you wanted? I'm legitimately wondering how in any way this better for the country. How is placing the majority on the back burner for .01% of the population and decimating what protections woman fought for better? You aren't bothered by all the calls for "unity" as they call Trump supporters ISIS while wanting to lynch fucking Mike Pence? Talking about re-education camps and purge lists, removing their ability to have bank accounts or free speech because of who they voted for? It's all ok now because DEMENTIA MAN GOOD?

Your really can't tell me that just because orange man gone all of this is fine can you? Is this the "acting presidential" you wanted? Not even attempting to wait more than 2 days before admitting that you lied about everything you said you supported? Being "respected" by bribing other countries and being the paypig covering all their bills and using our military as the global police while they're tossing pocket change at the citizens who have been locked up and mostly unable to work for a year? Making an EO to cancel building a wall that the media and Dems screamed and insisted wasn't real for years?

Having a relief bill that's been READY TO GO SINCE NOVEMBER that isn't anywhere near done, but maybe in March if we feel like it because what we really need to do instead is strip donald Trump of his citizenship and send him into exile like fucking Napoleon first. They froze fucking student loan repayment for longer than the eviction protections, like you can't just ignore student loans for a month or two unlike your fucking rent. If this is what you think is honestly better for this country and it's not all shit talk trolling on your end, this is really what you missed while you raged over destroying Trump for 4 yers?

It just makes me realize that none of you actually care what a shit state the country is in or who runs it as long as the media doesn't burst your escapism bubble by making you think about it.
 
what the fuck do you think autonomous means?
"Taking over" one small park, when in reality "taking over" means the city just doesn't give a shit because no one cares, is a bit different than trying to overthrow democracy.

Since you keep dodging the question, are you okay with the insurrection shit at the capitol? It seems you are

I never referenced I was an engineer in that post you obsessive faggot.

I dont know why you want to ride my dick so much with your stalker-like behavior but I'm not interested in you.

Find another forum crush.
Nah, I just remember it because you mentioned it once in the same post where you failed to know basic math and science and it was fucking hilarious at how obvious you were lying about your occupation

For once I'm not starting shit with you here lol.

The thing is, the fact that they didn't take this riot and street fighting shit seriously for 4 years and now they're acting like everyone is a media goldfish who literally cannot remember more than 2 weeks prior is the issue. Where was "if they break the law then they pay the price" while attacking and killing police, burning things, and shiting all over every institution they could, destroying monuments and trying to erase History while screaming death to america? Now America is sacred?

Don't you find that a bit strange? I mean we all like to pretend the normie center is completely retarded around here but even the most "don't rock the boat" people I know irl are watching who's getting walked vs. charged and saying "Wait, this doesn't make sense."

The Harris administration has, in the span of 4 days, become despised by all but the most fanatical Dem NPC's. I don't think I've ever seen someone trip over their dick that fast. Think about the fact that his first fucking orders are back to the eternal war and "oh hey, you women that voted for me? FUCK YOU FRONTHOLE HAVING TERF!"

Is this really what you voted for man? I mean hate Trump all you like, you do you, but can you really argue that this is what you wanted? I'm legitimately wondering how in any way this better for the country. How is placing the majority on the back burner for .01% of the population and decimating what protections woman fought for better? You aren't bothered by all the calls for "unity" as they call Trump supporters ISIS while wanting to lynch fucking Mike Pence? Talking about re-education camps and purge lists, removing their ability to have bank accounts or free speech because of who they voted for? It's all ok now because DEMENTIA MAN GOOD?

Your really can't tell me that just because orange man gone all of this is fine can you? Is this the "acting presidential" you wanted? Not even attempting to wait more than 2 days before admitting that you lied about everything you said you supported? Being "respected" by bribing other countries and being the paypig covering all their bills and using our military as the global police while they're tossing pocket change at the citizens who have been locked up and mostly unable to work for a year? Making an EO to cancel building a wall that the media and Dems screamed and insisted wasn't real for years?

Having a relief bill that's been READY TO GO SINCE NOVEMBER that isn't anywhere near done, but maybe in March if we feel like it because what we really need to do instead is strip donald Trump of his citizenship and send him into exile like fucking Napoleon first. They froze fucking student loan repayment for longer than the eviction protections, like you can't just ignore student loans for a month or two unlike your fucking rent. If this is what you think is honestly better for this country and it's not all shit talk trolling on your end, this is really what you missed while you raged over destroying Trump for 4 yers?

It just makes me realize that none of you actually care what a shit state the country is in or who runs it as long as the media doesn't burst your escapism bubble by making you think about it.
I am 100% against the BLM riots. I said it at the time and I say it now.

Biden is far from my ideal candidate and waiting on the relief package is fucking retarded. That should've been passed ASAP.

I am fine with getting rid of the retarded wall. The wall is stupid, ineffective and expensive.

However, at least he's taking covid seriously and even now Fauci and Birx are coming out saying how retarded Trump was at handling it.
 
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"Taking over" one small park, when in reality "taking over" means the city just doesn't give a shit because no one cares, is a bit different than trying to overthrow democracy.

Since you keep dodging the question, are you okay with the insurrection shit at the capitol? It seems you are

taking over anything is taking over, dipshit. meanwhile, the retards you claim tried to overthrow democracy only broke some windows. why are you completely handwaving the rape and murder that happened at CHAZ? are you for rape and murder as long as its by antifa?

for the third time in this thread and about the millionth time you asked me

I am more outraged by actual people being hurt, murdered or having their lives ruined than some politcians getting scared and having to use my tax dollars to repair a window.
 
CHAZ is retarded, but they weren't trying to overthrow democracy like the retards at the capitol did. Again, why are you okay with the insurrection but not BLM riots?
Now this is what pisses me off.

The local democracy allowed CHAZ to form. You give them an inch, they go a mile. ANTIFA is already destroying DNC headquarters in Portland. With their passive sanction.

I should not have to pick which one is "okay" and "not okay." Property was destroyed in both situations. Neither should've been allowed to happen.

It is not because of an agenda; they're both objectively wrong and encouraged by our government and media.

One has been reported en masse, one has been largely ignored. THAT'S THE ISSUE.
 
taking over anything is taking over, dipshit. meanwhile, the retards you claim tried to overthrow democracy only broke some windows. why are you completely handwaving the rape and murder that happened at CHAZ? are you for rape and murder as long as its by antifa?

for the third time in this thread and about the millionth time you asked me

I am more outraged by actual people being hurt, murdered or having their lives ruined than some politcians getting scared and having to use my tax dollars to repair a window.
So you're fine that people were planning to ziptie and murder elected officials and overthrow democracy because they believe baseless conspiracy theories pushed by a conman? At least I can admit that the BLM riots were stupid and awful, you should be willing to do the exact same about the shit your fellow cultists do.

I said Chaz was retarded and I don't support it. But I am not going to worry about some retards in a single city more than I am going to about some retards trying to overthrow democracy because them and their fellow retards believe a career conman.

Huh? When did I mention math and science? Why are you making up conversations about me you obsessive weirdo? You've done this before and it's really pathetic how much I occupy your headspace without trying.

Jimjamflimflam derangement syndrome.
It was in a covid thread, you were wrong on basic math and science skills. It was hilarious.
 
So you're fine that people were planning to ziptie and murder elected officials because they believe baseless conspiracy theories pushed by a conman? At least I can admit that the BLM riots were stupid and awful, you should be willing to do the exact same about the shit your fellow cultists do.

I said Chaz was retarded and I don't support it. But I am not going to worry about some retards in a single city more than I am going to about some retards trying to overthrow democracy because them and their fellow retards believe a career conman.


It was in a covid thread, you were wrong on basic math and science skills. It was hilarious.

What? When? Seriously post receipts. You seem to remember everything so you probably have this bookmarked
 
So you're fine that people were planning to ziptie and murder elected officials because they believe baseless conspiracy theories pushed by a conman? At least I can admit that the BLM riots were stupid and awful, you should be willing to do the exact same about the shit your fellow cultists do.

I said Chaz was retarded and I don't support it. But I am not going to worry about some retards in a single city more than I am going to about some retards trying to overthrow democracy because them and their fellow retards believe a career conman.

I said the capital protests were retarded and I don't support it, but I am not going to worry about some retards in the capital more than I am going to worry about actual innocent, hard working citizens getting their lives ruined because BLM and their fellow welfare queens wanted some new nikes and tv's.
 
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I am not going to worry about some retards in a single city
Accurately describes the people on Jan 6th. How many officials were harmed? It's really shit scaremongering dude when not even a single painting was harmed. Especially when they were asked to go home, and did.
 
Screenshots of these Telegram channels were provided to me by Meghan Conroy, who researches far-right extremism at Moonshot CVE, an organization that aims to counter violent extremism.

Moonshot receives funding from technology companies such as Google, Facebook and Twitter
Moonshot engages in campaigns to direct users attempting to access extremist material to alternative sources. Moonshot developed this method, known as the Redirect Method, in partnership with Jigsaw in 2016
Jigsaw LLC (formerly Google Ideas) is a technology incubator created by Google. It is currently under Google management and used to operate as an independent subsidiary of Alphabet Inc. Based in New York City, Jigsaw is dedicated to understanding global challenges and applying technological solutions, from "countering extremism", online censorship and cyber-attacks, to protecting access to information. Jared Cohen, formerly with the Policy Planning Committee at the US State Department, is the CEO of Jigsaw, and was formerly co-founder and director of Google Ideas.
three letter agent glow so bright...
 
I eagerly await The Atlantic's next major headline: "Relax, Bill Gates Doesn't Actually Have A Herd of Nigger Cattle"
 
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I am 100% against the BLM riots. I said it at the time and I say it now.

Biden is far from my ideal candidate and waiting on the relief package is fucking retarded. That should've been passed ASAP.

I am fine with getting rid of the retarded wall. The wall is stupid, ineffective and expensive.

However, at least he's taking covid seriously and even now Fauci and Birx are coming out saying how retarded Trump was at handling it.
Since you've ignored the thrust of my question, I'll simplify. Can you look at yourself in a mirror and say
"women's protections being gutted, more military adventures in the middle east, a souped-up Patriot act, making racism and sexism official policy in how Covid relief and governmental lending will be handled going forward, calling American citizens ISIS for political differences and stepping back on almost everything he promised within 2 days of being given power is exactly the mandate I endorsed."
Can you really do that?

With all this talk about how "magatards" and "Trump cultists" got played "lol orange man fucked you!" I have to ask, who really got fucked here? Trump voters knew what they were voting for at least, but you "anyone but Trump" people? You literally watched them rig a primary to give you Biden just like they gave you Hilary, and then watched as they made someone who got bodied on live TV with a record on black people that would make a Stormfront members dick hard the VP. All that and for some reason you're still out here trying to crack on Trump supporters like they were the useful idiots who are getting put up against the wall now. News flash if it hasn't quite sunken in yet, but that was you guys. And now we're ALL getting put against the wall.

Biden is what you get, and it's what you deserve. He's exactly the ideal candidate because that's what the democrat party stands for now. So obsessed with your petty 5 minute hate bullshit over a caricature created by the media that you're willing to vote for someone who didn't even have any fucking policy positions.

I don't know what the fuck you're doing in here trying to troll the mythical "alt-right" unicorns you think are everywhere on the board, when it's pretty fucking clear right now that the joke was on you guys the whole time.
 
Screenshots of these Telegram channels were provided to me by Meghan Conroy, who researches far-right extremism at Moonshot CVE, an organization that aims to counter violent extremism. In addition, I found variations on the “glow” terminology all over 4chan, the imageboard that froths with racist and misogynist messages, and on TheDonald.win, the far-right successor to the pro-Trump subreddit r/The_Donald. All three platforms featured discussions of storming the Capitol in the days leading up to January 6.
If you can't even do basic research of where the term "glowie" originated you should shut the fuck up about the topic entirely.
 
Jesus fuck, HHH, how did you get that throat of yours so wide to get all that gov't cock inside?

BLM bad, Biden not the best, relief package bad but om-nom-nom-nom right is regarded orang man bad. It's totally okay to deplatform anyone who thinks anything outside of the officially mandated party line guyz and if you think otherwise you're a retarded racist Trumper incel who joined this forum to sperg about politics and not laugh at silly people. Ha-ha, see my join date?! I was here first, I have the street cred, assmad butthurt short incel

Even Corbin Dallas Multipass and snailslime were more tolerable than you, you retarded nigger.
 
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