2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Gustav Schuchardt said:
They haven't got time to stop the electoral college vote on the 14th. Theoretically, one senator and one House representative could object in Congress and that would cause a vote. I think Gaetz and Brooks could do it but I'm not convinced the GOP has the votes or, frankly, the will to do anything of substance.
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They should do it, as a last fuck you and to keep this wild ride going.
 
Reisen Storm said:
They should do it, as a last fuck you and to keep this wild ride going.
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I agree, but I'm not sure they will. In fact I'm pretty sure Gaetz and Brooks will come under pressure from inside the GOP to not try.

I think there's some sort of backroom deal we're not aware of - essentially Biden gets the presidency but the GOP gets Congress and a few House seats.
 
Gustav Schuchardt said:
I agree, but I'm not sure they will. In fact I'm pretty sure Gaetz and Brooks will come under pressure from inside the GOP to not try.

I think there's some sort of backroom deal we're not aware of - essentially Biden gets the presidency but the GOP gets Congress and a few House seats.
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Democrats are threatening to remove the republicans seats that supported trump. Nothing to lose but to go balls deep.
 
Looks like Trump will declassify everything


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Disgruntled Pupper said:
Why do you think things were shit for almost a decade under Obama
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It especially amazes me how many people have forgotten that the vast majority of the American public in 2009-2010 was so enraged by Obama's weak economic policies (despite his promises to fix all shit as soon as possible), that even many of my liberal relatives voted for Republicans in the 2010 elections. Back then, almost no one believed Obama would be re-elected in 2012. Oh man, it just took a few years to brainwash people into thinking that Obama is nearly a perfect president despite the fact he was a worse leader than Bush jr. (and that's something, I would tell).
 
DtoDab said:
What I don't like is the uncharted territory where the laws are meaningless and unenforceable.

The scotus should have to rule on this issue, otherwise the LACK of precedent towards either way is much more worrying.

or either judiciary and executive branches can change electoral laws at will, and this will be precedent for all future elections and allowed and legal, or they don't and should be forbidden, the vacuum on this by not rulling either way is extremelly dangerous.
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There is the long term consequences of a precedent where States have stading to sue other States about their own internal affairs. Pennsylvanias argument essentially boiled down to they have a Sovereign right to run their elections as corruptly as they saw fit, and that is there right. As obnoxious as it is, they are not entirely wrong, and the Supreme Court apparently agreed. The issue I see is what it means going foreword from a purely cultural standpoint. The entire Union depends on the principle that all 50 States for the most part abide by the same framework of laws. The only question now is what happens now. Everyone is mad, but are they mad enough to cross the Rubicon? Who knows. A big problem is that in order for the legions to cross the Rubicon, there needs to be a Caesar at the head of the line, and Trump is most definitely not the man to give that order and expect enough force to follow him to treason or glory.

Absent some sort of leadership from someone, what we will see going foreword I think is the start of some sort of low grade insurgency, where Conservative States will start openly bucking the Federal Government, and more street level, low grade violence, like we have been seeing over the summer.
 
Sekirodiealot said:
I think people are justified being upset about this, even if they're not staunch trumpers.
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The thing that's getting to me is that there's no real celebration over it, no real salt and no real gloating from the left. Just this lingering dread even from some of the twitters you'd expect to be really smarmy over it, like they've realized what's going on with Youtube right now might be applied to them next now that they've outlived their usefulness.

HHH's trolling and the locally produced salt over the un-threadbans have been amusing at least.
 
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Secret Asshole said:
We don't need help in sterilizing ourselves. Plasticizers and estrogen-like derivatives are already major pollutants. There's no need to do it through a major vaccine. And you can't keep something like that quiet. Its impossible.

Vaccines and meds have been used traditionally to screw people out of money, not for some weirdo conspiratard nonsense. Do you KNOW how much work goes into a vaccine? Do you know how many people are involved in producing it? And not just researchers. Lab techs, companies that make it, the massive tests that have to go through it...the people involved in making a vaccine aren't able to be counted on your fingers and toes. It's over 100 people, easily. You think they'll be able to keep a VERY OBVIOUS side effect like fucking sterilization secret? That's insane.
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How do you even discover sterilization is an outcome when you rush the product through in less than 12 months, when vaccines usually take years, and do not include pregnant, breastfeeding or trying to concieve women from trials? (which you're supposed to, I know. not implying nefariousness there)

I mean, that's just how it could happen by accident. The reason we usually take some more time with these things is so that things like longer term consequences can be discovered.

If you wanted to to do this on purpose, well, a rushed vaccine for an illness that most victims only suffer mild discomfort from is a golden opportunity to inject yourself into proceedings.

You wouldn't even need everyone working on the vaccine to be in on it. Tuskegee points to how a few people at the top of the research team can suborn dozens of others moral compass and keep numerous other involved parties essentially in the dark about the damage being done,

I'm pretty phlegmatic about all this though. At some stage I realised the only things worth worrying about are the things I can directly effect. If there is some global conspiracy to spade all the niggers and spics, well, my yard still needs a new fence.

ducktales4gameboy said:
The thing that's getting to me is that there's no real celebration over it, no real salt and no real gloating from the left. Just this lingering dread even from some of the twitters you'd expect to be really smarmy over it, like they've realized what's going on with Youtube right now might be applied to them next now that they've outlived their usefulness.
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What happened to Dilbert?
 
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mindlessobserver said:
There is the long term consequences of a precedent where States have stading to sue other States about their own internal affairs. Pennsylvanias argument essentially boiled down to they have a Sovereign right to run their elections as corruptly as they saw fit, and that is there right. As obnoxious as it is, they are not entirely wrong, and the Supreme Court apparently agreed.
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But isn't the main problem that the presidential elections are not a state matter, but rather are a federal concession? by that point of view Pennysylvania cannot run a federal concession as corruptly as they se fit.
 
ducktales4gameboy said:
The thing that's getting to me is that there's no real celebration over it, no real salt and no real gloating from the left beyond a couple non-bluecheck twitters. Just this lingering dread even from some of the twitters you'd expect to be really smarmy over it, like they've realized what happened to Scott Adams might happen to them next
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That’s because no one really won this election. They got rid of trump, but they voted someone in that has like 70 or 80% of his policies in place.
 
The Last Stand said:
If a state secedes, why not California or Washington? Florida can stay as an attraction.
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California, Washington, and all other Blue states know they are completely reliant on sucking away money and resources from the Red states to survive. They'll never leave.

And why would they? They are, in fact, the elites -- destined to rule over the rest of us. Their favorite fortune tellers (themselves) tell them so every day, after all, and no one ever disagrees with them (because they shadowban and block anyone who does). So why secede? They just need to beat down the other states and rule over them as god science intended.
 
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