2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Syaoran Li said:
In a best case scenario (AKA not going to happen ever) SCOTUS did this to prevent any potential court packing as part of some backroom deal



I'm honestly curious how the COVID-19 plans are going to go now that a vaccine is officially available in the US as of tonight given the FDA has given approval for a publicly available vaccine in their emergency ruling

Don't get me wrong, I know the bigwigs will cook up some blatant bullshit reason to keep these lockdowns indefinite and make them more draconian, but I wonder if that could also accelerate the breaking point for a lot of people who'd otherwise gleefully wear their mask talisman and obey.

A vaccine was meant to be the "holy grail" instant win condition that motivated people to willingly put up with this shit. It was probably meant to be the thing that was always "just around the corner" but never actually gets there, sort of like green energy.

Yet now we have it and it's going to be given out for free, with the first batch going to healthcare workers and at-risk groups, who'll probably be majority vaccinated by the end of January if Trump's video about the vaccine's first batch beginning distribution within the next 24 hours.

Ideally, this would be a Morton's Fork for the Democrats/Uniparty: Either end the lockdowns and mask mandates within 100 days of inauguration and promote the vaccine, or hold onto the emergency powers and push for the Great Reset at the expense of genuine economic collapse and unrest.

But we know they will cook up an excuse to keep the lockdowns going eternally and invoke "muh science" as they do so.
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There are rumors of the vaccine is part of a sterilization program. People are starting to really wig out.
 
Headshotmaster138 said:
Same here dude. Ultimately, I just want us to take our jobs to the USA and end the stupid wars in the middle east, but that'll never happen.
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They can’t just keep taking forever. Eventually, a system like that will implode on itself and the nation could become so poor that there will be nothing left to borrow anymore. This will take time to actually happen though, but this is why these multinationals can’t survive by outsourcing everything, especially when they depend on the US for their headquarters in many instances. As for the wars, those may eventually be forced to end if taxes get raised super high in order to support them. If anything gets people angry, it’s very high taxes with no say in what happens (it’s what caused the American Revolution). Things may be bad, but abuse the system too much, and it will all come crumbling down.
 
DeadFish said:
There are rumors of the vaccine is part of a sterilization program. People are starting to really wig out.
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If that's the Bill Gates approved one I refuse to take it or drink his "shit water." In regards to those rumors, I've heard them as well, and honestly I'm inclined to believe them.
 
Syaoran Li said:
In a best case scenario (AKA not going to happen ever) SCOTUS did this to prevent any potential court packing as part of some backroom deal



I'm honestly curious how the COVID-19 plans are going to go now that a vaccine is officially available in the US as of tonight given the FDA has given approval for a publicly available vaccine in their emergency ruling

Don't get me wrong, I know the bigwigs will cook up some blatant bullshit reason to keep these lockdowns indefinite and make them more draconian, but I wonder if that could also accelerate the breaking point for a lot of people who'd otherwise gleefully wear their mask talisman and obey.

A vaccine was meant to be the "holy grail" instant win condition that motivated people to willingly put up with this shit. It was probably meant to be the thing that was always "just around the corner" but never actually gets there, sort of like green energy.

Yet now we have it and it's going to be given out for free, with the first batch going to healthcare workers and at-risk groups, who'll probably be majority vaccinated by the end of January if Trump's video about the vaccine's first batch beginning distribution within the next 24 hours.

Ideally, this would be a Morton's Fork for the Democrats/Uniparty: Either end the lockdowns and mask mandates within 100 days of inauguration and promote the vaccine, or hold onto the emergency powers and push for the Great Reset at the expense of genuine economic collapse and unrest.

But we know they will cook up an excuse to keep the lockdowns going eternally and invoke "muh science" as they do so.
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What I don't understand is, why do we need to lockdown longer if they have found the vaccine now? The whole point of these lockdowns was to slow the spread until we found a vaccine and now we're having more lockdowns? That sounds like a powder keg ready to blow if you ask me.
 
Headshotmaster138 said:
What I don't understand is, why do we need to lockdown longer if they have found the vaccine now? The whole point of these lockdowns was to slow the spread until we found a vaccine and now we're having more lockdowns? That sounds like a powder keg ready to blow if you ask me.
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basically muh no herd immunity yet and muh only 95% effective
 
DeadFish said:
There are rumors of the vaccine is part of a sterilization program. People are starting to really wig out.
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One can only hope, if 2020 has shown me one thing it's the undeniable reality of NPCs among us. Billions of them.

Headshotmaster138 said:
What I don't understand is, why do we need to lockdown longer if they have found the vaccine now? The whole point of these lockdowns was to slow the spread until we found a vaccine and now we're having more lockdowns? That sounds like a powder keg ready to blow if you ask me.
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You're in a global Aschian conformity experiment. The whole point of these lockdowns was to assess whether or not humanity was sufficiently docile to accept their Great Reset.
 
The Wicked Mitch said:
One can only hope, if 2020 has shown me one thing it's the undeniable reality of NPCs among us. Billions of them.



You're in a global Aschian conformity experiment. The whole point of these lockdowns was to assess whether or not humanity was sufficiently docile to accept their Great Reset.
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If I was grade how we gave up our freedoms because of these lockdowns, I would give it a A-
 
Headshotmaster138 said:
What I don't understand is, why do we need to lockdown longer if they have found the vaccine now? The whole point of these lockdowns was to slow the spread until we found a vaccine and now we're having more lockdowns? That sounds like a powder keg ready to blow if you ask me.
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IIRC, the vaccine actually coming into existence threw everyone a curveball and could derail the gravy train that COVID-19 gave to the bigwigs.

The "muh 95% effective" and herd immunity concerns seem like they're grasping for straws and coming up with excuses on the spot since there's another vaccine by AstraZenica coming out a week from now in addition to the Pfizer one, and they already greenlit the new one from Pfizer tonight.

If they want to push the Great Reset, they're being way too hamfisted and the compliance of the NPC's largely hinged on the hope that a vaccine would be released and they could finally not have to put up with the lockdown restrictions anymore.
 
JambledUpWords said:
Many of the cases that were lost were because of partisan courts. The hearings were still useful because they helped gain traction in the cause and helped present evidence to the public. Had the hearings not happened, and the lawsuits before them, I don’t know if this Texas case would have gone forward. With cases like these, you need to gain enough traction in the public and the courts for things like this to happen. Those are just my thoughts. If Texas just did this at the start before much evidence was actually presented beforehand in the hearings, I doubt it would get the support it’s getting now.
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The cases were all lost because they were meritless. The Supreme Court dumped two cases, confirming they were worthless. Thinking that getting cases laughed out of court is a good thing is stupid.

Literally everything you said is retarded and not how courts work.


Syaoran Li said:
I agree with you up to a point but given the unique circumstances that this is a state filing the suit and not an individual, we fall into "original jurisdiction" where the odds are somewhat more in favor of actually making a difference since discovery and oral arguments are part and parcel of these rare specific cases

Also, the fact that multiple states are backing this all at once gives me a small inkling of hope that this might be the "razor-thin victory at the last possible nanosecond" scenario that would be the closest thing possible to a happy ending for 2020

Peak 2020 would be Trump and crew filing worthless lawsuits and getting nowhere while Ted Cruz of all people doing the actual legal legwork and making sure a suit could get to SCOTUS that would actually have a 50/50 shot at making a difference by virtue of a state filing it and not a single individual, plus the Texas case supposedly being more ironclad and less open-ended in its arguments than any of Trump's lolsuits or the Kraken Q-Tard nonsense from Wood and Powell.

Multiple states throwing their lot in with Texas helps give it weight, but who knows how this will go
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The Supreme Court dumped it because it was a stupid case. Any state could claim "original jurisdiction" but that doesn't mean the court gives a fuck. 40+ states could have signed on to this, and the S.C. still wouldn't have heard it.

And Ted Cruz would literally argue a case in front of the Supreme Court for the International Galactic Federation of Planets on behalf of Trump. He's a hack who knows all of this is bullshit, but wants a heads up against his opponents in the 2024 primary.

Just a boy said:
Is the case itself actually weak though? Every time I hear people criticising it, it's always because of who filed it rather than the contents of the case itself, which from what I understand at least has the benefit of going for a constitutional argument rather than naming specific instances of fraud (since no matter what, it will always be difficult for judges to choose to invalidate votes), as well as suggesting constitutional remedies that (a) don't require overturning the vote totals and (b) don't put SCOTUS in a kingmaker position if it falls to the state legislatures or a contingent election. I'm not sure how indicative the wait for this lawsuit is of anything, either, it's a hefty document after all that needs to be perfect if it's going to be a deciding factor in the outcome of an extremely controversial presidential election. Could also argue that the decisions of the lower courts may influence how SCOTUS rules if they've been consistently disingenuous, but I admit that's not exactly a strong argument in favour of taking a month and then some.
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The case was a weak piece of shit. No one took it seriously. I don't blame you personally for taking this case personally. Even if the case was retarded.
 
CrippleThreat said:
There is a system: the machine that has always been there before this just went into full power this time. It didn't expect Trump to crack it in 2016.
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Trump didn't kill the machine. What he did was rip its mask off and show it to a lot of people who'd chosen not to see it until now. It's a little like the Terminator - all the fleshy disguise is torn away now and you just see this steel death figure gangling about choking the life out of people. I think people wanted him to be John Connor but he was more Kyle Reese. He warned people, he fought and it exposed it. But like the meme says, it was never after him, he was just in the way. It's Sarah Connor it wants and its Sarah Connor who ultimately is the only that can kill it. And to belabour the obvious, in this analogy Sarah Connor is the American people.


I'm honestly surprised that the Supreme Court wouldn't even hear the case. I was prepared for it to be heard and fail - the argument always felt a little optimistic to me even though there seemed to be a legal basis for it. But to not even hear it! The message that sends - especially combined with the way state courts flat out refused to hear evidence as well! It honestly makes me wonder if the justices actually were frightened for themselves and their families. I mean, I don't want to believe that but the machine has killed before. Individuals like Seth Rich but also knowingly sacrificed thousands of soldiers on the Iraq war and Afghanistan. For no reason other than power. So there's hardly any reason to suppose they wouldn't do it again. Though to be less dramatic there are plenty of other ways people can be threatened. Or maybe the Supreme Court is just that afraid of getting involved. It's even possible that the dismissal has a perfectly sound legal basis to reject. But to me and I'm sure most people, if that were the case then to hear it and rule against would seem FAR more helpful to ending this peacefully than just saying "we wont hear you." I mean, 20 States all petitioning - you can't just ignore that without consequence.

I would not be surprised if many Republicans are now mentally preparing to move from copium to ropium, right now.
 
I've been watching this show for a few seasons now. I'm invested. I was ready to sit back and enjoy the Supreme Court arc regardless of their final decision, good or bad. "We won't make a decision" was not something I was ready to accept. I can't believe they didn't even hear the case. Probably won't watch the next season.
 
I'm reading more into Giuliani's statements. He made the "It's not over! Believe me!" statements on Newsmax earlier.

Basically, he explained that the SCOTUS dismissed the case because it was rejected on its standing, and not on its merits. Then, he said that this gives the open for Trump and some of the electors to bring forward the case to the District Court with the facts that have been revealed in the "hearings" that have taken place over the past few weeks.

I mean, I can believe that this is probably going to be Trump's next step ... But as far as I can tell, I have no reason to feel inspired with confidence that anything significant will come from it.

I fully understand the legal strategy of "not revealing all of your cards until the end," as putting all of the evidence in the spotlight immediately following Election Night would have given a lot of people all of the time in the world to cover their tracks. However, since a court doesn't even want to see or hear the evidence, then I think that it's pretty much time for Trump to release it all to the public now.

If Trump can't win in a court, then he can certainly send a giant F-U to the future Biden Administration via the court of public opinion. All the while the Hunter Biden investigation is happening, too.
 
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