2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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nigger you intentionally avoided reading the rest of that conversation where we hashed out definitions specifically about consensus in order to gatcha! me
Not possible. I argued that no possible use of the term served your argument.

"if the scotus/ga cases fall flat, thing happens" is an obvious motherfucking conditional statement
One that precludes you from making a statement about consensus until those cases conclude, at minimum. Which is what I meant by "won't be able to hash or not hash out...".

You type out words but you don't make valuable points half the time.
 
Starting to think this lawsuit is being pushed to "prove" that Trump's claims are false. Thats why most of the Republicans are suddenly supporting it, so they can go "the Supreme Court said everything's fine so it must be okay, vote for us in 2022!" while pretending they fought for him. Yes I know the case isn't technically about specific fraud claims, but all that is just a technicality in the narrative battle. Might be a 'blackpill' or whatever but its the most likely scenario from the GOP side atm
 
Ben Shapiro is spitting fire today and is agreeing with Limbaugh we are heading to secession.


https://youtu.be/_4bELg8l5kE[/media]


I will point out to all conservatives thinking they can just pack their baseball bat up and leave the field is delusional thinking. That is what the Confrderacy thought in 1860. That if they cant get along, they will just leave and that would be that. That is not how the world works. If you break the country, you play for all the marbles or you don't play at all.

Agree secession isn't going to happen. That's just verbal masturbation.

The conflict will be different. The national level of anger won't be going down any time soon. The ongoing national ChiCom Flu fuckup, plus this fucked-up election, will lead many to justifiably claim and believe Biden wasn't legitimately elected. Have said this before, saying it again, America goes from the frying pan into the fire in 2021.

I can see widespread civil disobedience as people simply ignore laws they don't agree with. Can see isolated incidents of violence and terrorism. Can see some resorting to cyberwarfare to make their point. Can see people losing jobs due to working for a supporter of a different candidate than theirs. Can see people losing customers, in certain cases. But as always most people don't discuss politics outside friends/family, so life will go on.

Can also see fewer people voting in certain states, realizing their vote's utterly meaningless. These people instead focus their lives on themselves and their families, no longer engaging with "the community." They choose to live without reference to the bigger community.

The country won't be broken as much as it will start to die as an idea. There will be two mutually-hostile nations within one country. Members of each nation will interact with members of the other nation out of their own self-interest, but that shared, common bond will be tenuous at best.


@babadook - Good point. Believe where you stand on that depends on your own background and politics. A rabid Biden supporter may believe things will be hunky-dory when Joe gets in.
 
Starting to think this lawsuit is being pushed to "prove" that Trump's claims are false. Thats why most of the Republicans are suddenly supporting it, so they can go "the Supreme Court said everything's fine so it must be okay, vote for us in 2022!" while pretending they fought for him. Yes I know the case isn't technically about specific fraud claims, but all that is just a technicality in the narrative battle. Might be a 'blackpill' or whatever but its the most likely scenario from the GOP side atm
And what if it proves true? What then?
 
Starting to think this lawsuit is being pushed to "prove" that Trump's claims are false. Thats why most of the Republicans are suddenly supporting it, so they can go "the Supreme Court said everything's fine so it must be okay, vote for us in 2022!" while pretending they fought for him. Yes I know the case isn't technically about specific fraud claims, but all that is just a technicality in the narrative battle. Might be a 'blackpill' or whatever but its the most likely scenario from the GOP side atm
Then it's going to fail. If the USSC says that voter fraud didn't happen, no one's going to change their minds and start voting for people Trump supporters think stabbed their guy in the back.
 
Starting to think this lawsuit is being pushed to "prove" that Trump's claims are false. Thats why most of the Republicans are suddenly supporting it, so they can go "the Supreme Court said everything's fine so it must be okay, vote for us in 2022!" while pretending they fought for him. Yes I know the case isn't technically about specific fraud claims, but all that is just a technicality in the narrative battle. Might be a 'blackpill' or whatever but its the most likely scenario from the GOP side atm
Personally I think they're just doing lip service myself or a "look guys we boosted your morale, we're the good guys" and continue the current trend in politics, and I bet many will go right along with it. Not much you can do though. Though this will start a downward trend in many Trump supporters and those against the establishment.
 
Madame Kraken has filed to the Supreme Court.
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So that makes it 2 Post-Election lawsuits that have been filed to SCOTUS with 3 days to go until the Electoral College meetup.

This is what I've been wondering, too. The Constitution delegates the authority of setting the EC convention date to Congress, so the question essentially becomes one of power between SCOTUS and Congress. If they order that it be postponed, I'm not sure if Congress even has to listen, political pressure aside.

SCOTUS has a stupid amount of power, restrained only by the fact they can't proactively use it.

As it is their job to Interpret the constitution, they have the final word on what the constitution entails and covers. If they say something is to be done, it is to be done.
I’m not liking this last minute shit. For all we know, the SC could just let the EC vote and do all the formalities before everything is said and done and just make a decision once it’s too late to change the results of the election.
 
Not possible. I argued that no possible use of the term served your argument.


One that precludes you from making a statement about consensus until those cases conclude, at minimum. Which is what I meant by "won't be able to hash or not hash out...".

You type out words but you don't make valuable points half the time.
Consensus among relevant political bodies is 50-0 Don lost fair and square right now. If GA keeps things as they are, it's still 50-0. If SCOTUS throws the thing out or decides against the litigant, it's 51-0. That's consensus, whizz. Given that I have been putting everything in the conditional "if" from the very beginning, your dumb ass is really reaching here to suggest I've been doing otherwise. Instant a state decerts or is compelled to decrert, or otherwise verifies fraud, you come on in and boast that there's a change.

House of reps doesn't fucking matter. Some state senators or reps don't fucking matter. The sitting president doesn't fucking matter. You know that democrat retard who got bit by Feng said that Trump was a kremlin agent who cheated his way in, while he was in office? By your logic, there wasn't official consensus among relevant election parties that Trump was legitimately president.
 
Has this been posted yet?
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>their votes were counted - in some cases multiple times
How do you fuck up this bad? Don't they get that's the exactly the problem?



You sir have given me a good laugh

He had two brain aneurysms in 1988. This fact doesn't get mentioned a lot for obvious reasons

He called them 'dumb bastards'. The quote was most certainly not out of context.
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Personally I think they're just doing lip service myself or a "look guys we boosted your morale, we're the good guys" and continue the current trend in politics, and I bet many will go right along with it. Not much you can do though. Though this will start a downward trend in many Trump supporters and those against the establishment.
A lot of the more inflamatory rhetoric getting thrown around by party mouthpieces fits in here too. They think that they can harness the energy of the base by saying things that sound more serious or outside the regular paradigm.
Ben Shapiro is spitting fire today and is agreeing with Limbaugh we are heading to secession.


https://youtu.be/_4bELg8l5kE[/media]


I will point out to all conservatives thinking they can just pack their baseball bat up and leave the field is delusional thinking. That is what the Confrderacy thought in 1860. That if they cant get along, they will just leave and that would be that. That is not how the world works. If you break the country, you play for all the marbles or you don't play at all.
Case and point right here. Shapiro's the measuring stick for what the establishment GOP is going with narrative wise. There's no way he believes this kind of talk, but he knows plenty of normie conservatives might jump over to the further right elements of the party if the doesn't at least give this stuff lip service.
 
That noose really is screwing with your brain.
Got it, I'll come right back to this post after they vote with the update about whether or not all relevant political bodies to the election of a US president agreed that Donald Trump lost fair and square to the fucking dementia-addled corpse.
Sticky note made, so I'll see you then!
 
As I've said many, many times in many threads hence: you're dealing with an entire class of maladjusted adult children who are miserably fucking angry at the fact that people are happy outside of the sphere of their pet causes. People who haven't grown up since middle school; and who have broken and gaslit themselves into a postmodernist Hell that demands they rip at the fabric of everything around them for nothing more than its own sake. Most of them are Marxists, socialists, and anarchists because in real life; they're all worthless failures who work dead ends or are pity-hired.

Useless wastes otherwise!

But given a very carefully curated script with just 'enough' context and a convincing enough villain, they're repurposed into soldiers of a grand Revolution; the hero of their own personal YA fantasy novel. They're addicted to it, and they refuse to allow normalcy to shatter it.
I was more talking about how they don't seem to realize they're just a small yappy dog that's quietly tolerated at the moment.

The sheer arrogance of those types never fails to astound that's all.

They really think they won't be discarded and replaced like the fundies and hippies were.
 
Starting to think this lawsuit is being pushed to "prove" that Trump's claims are false. Thats why most of the Republicans are suddenly supporting it, so they can go "the Supreme Court said everything's fine so it must be okay, vote for us in 2022!" while pretending they fought for him. Yes I know the case isn't technically about specific fraud claims, but all that is just a technicality in the narrative battle. Might be a 'blackpill' or whatever but its the most likely scenario from the GOP side atm
This is pretty far to go to 'prove' that Trump's claims are false (which they aren't, the constitutional claims are correct on their face and the defendants don't even try to deny it). They've basically drawn the battle lines here. The opposition is throwing around terms like 'sedition' and 'treason' which almost certainly means some punishment will be visited on them if they should fail. Most GOP would not risk going to prison just to mount a limp-wristed 'at least we tried' defence like you're suggesting.
 
I was more talking about how they don't seem to realize they're just a small yappy dog that's quietly tolerated at the moment.

The sheer arrogance of those types never fails to astound that's all.

They really think they won't be discarded and replaced like the fundies and hippies were.
The fact we have people trying to make tranny children and corrupt DAs allow them to rampage for 6 months says otherwise. Even the crazier fundies and hippies weren't above the law or common sense, especially the former.
 
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