2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[HumanHive]

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You know, there's one side trying to do things the legal way, and there's one side trying to be thugs in this whole situation. Just rubicon it now.

This is a really great way to split the union and start a civil war.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I think if they extend the deadline it means they're going to do something dramatic. If they let the electors vote on the 14th they're probably going to do jack shit.

Which I think is what they’re going to do. 14th hits, electorate votes, Trump concedes, things happen with no way for Trump to benefit.

Fucking hell, I wanted the SCOTUS to get this done quickly, not drag this longer.

don’t underestimate the power to screw Trump.

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

The only thing they didn't have a consensus on was who should have won, not who actually won.


"Here's the relevant political bodies in our electoral process that have members who are disputing election results!"
[meandering acknowledgment phrased as dissent that doesn't address all mentioned parties, reiteration of poorly made point that hinges on at-present hypotheticals and is unconcerned about the import of internal discord]

Do you only interact with the opposite side through reading articles about them? Plenty of people genuinely think Don got help from the Russians and otherwise conspired with forces to steal it from Clinton. They still believe this, the Mueller shit and dead Russia probe having done nothing to dissuade them. As was also pointed out, a working majority of people nevertheless accept that Don won.

Hahahahaha. Okay, sure.
What does the federal House of Representatives do during the election?
What do the state legislatures do during the election?
How can either of them contest the certification?
And if neither of them can, how is it functionally any different?

 

[Reisen Storm]

The US doesn't need to decide who the next president is until the 20th. If they stop the electoral college vote on the 14th they could redo the elections under the existing rules the legislatures have set and with Republican observers. At which point I think most people would accept the result.

Damn, we get two elections for the price of one? Be honest, with all the new information coming out against Biden, what are his chances if that happens?

 

[Shqueefa]

Honestly been out of the loop on all this but it seems democrats got caught and blocking everyone at every chance possible?

 

[Dr J]

Fucking hell, I wanted the SCOTUS to get this done quickly, not drag this longer.

There's no way they can hear a case like this in a weekend. Issuing a stay or pushing back the date that the Electoral College meets is the best indication that they will do something

If they let the electors vote on the 14th they're probably going to do jack shit.

Which would be an incredibly stupid decision which basically ensures states will be bringing cases like this one every four years like clockwork until they grow some balls and make a ruling.

 

[Epsteindidnothingwrong]

Fucking hell, I wanted the SCOTUS to get this done quickly, not drag this longer.

Government + Quickly = AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Dr J]

Damn, we get two elections for the price of one? Be honest, with all the new information coming out against Biden, what are his chances if that happens?

The last thing Biden wants is a re-vote. Firstly a re-vote even taking place is a tacit admission that the first election was fucked and secondly the fact that he didn't waste time in stabbing his progressive allies in the back means they won't turn out for him a second time. Thirdly, if he had the legitimate numbers to win in the first place he wouldn't have needed to cheat.

 

[Jarolleon]

The last thing Biden wants is a re-vote. Firstly a re-vote even taking place is a tacit admission that the first election was fucked and secondly the fact that he didn't waste time in stabbing his progressive allies in the back means they won't turn out for him a second time. Thirdly, if he had the legitimate numbers to win in the first place he wouldn't have needed to cheat.

Member when it was the globalists who wanted to redo elections until they won?

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Do you only interact with the opposite side through reading articles about them? Plenty of people genuinely think Don got help from the Russians and otherwise conspired with forces to steal it from Clinton.

I'm well aware. That's what I allude to in the first response you quote.

What does the federal House of Representatives do during the election?

Handle contingent elections.

What do the state legislatures do during the election?

Certify the vote tallies and designate electors. In general, they define election law in their state.

How can either of them contest the certification?

...individuals can pursue litigation. State legislatures in particular can deny certification, and can pass measures to reclaim the necessary powers to personally designate electors.

And if neither of them can, how is it functionally any different?

That noose is getting to your brain.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Damn, we get two elections for the price of one? Be honest, with all the new information coming out against Biden, what are his chances if that happens?

I think they'd only have the election in PAGAMIWI since those are the only states named in the TX suit. With a bit of luck, he'd lose badly.

If he wins fairly I guess that's the end of the matter.

 

[Psychic Espeon]

Madame Kraken has filed to the Supreme Court.

Wayback Machine

So that makes it 2 Post-Election lawsuits that have been filed to SCOTUS with 3 days to go until the Electoral College meetup.

 

[Reisen Storm]

Was there another hearing in Wisconsin? This pop up in my feed.

https://youtu.be/SEU6owG2Gjo

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Is the SCOTUS even allowed to postpone the EC convention?

 

[Meat Target]

Member when it was the globalists who wanted to redo elections until they won?

They didn't think we would start giving them a taste of their own medicine.

 

[CheezzyMach]

The modern left is ENTIRELY appeal to authority. It was designed this way because it gives authority maximum power and control. You think if the police started caving protester's faces in with batons and the state and feds covered for them that ANTIFA would be protesting over a dead criminal? Fuck no.

Look at every piece of 'activism' they do. The VAST majority of it is sitting on their ass whining to the people in charge. And when the people in charge ignore them? Well...they do nothing, because that's all they have. Its effective at creating needy retards, but that's about it.

It all goes to shit when you need them to, you know, actually accomplish something.

Hence why I repeatedly ask why the woke left act like smug cunts to normies who just want to beer and grill.

They only have power because corporations/the DNC bought into a trend, once SocJus shit stops being trendy they'll be booted out of power just like their fundie forbearers were. Hell we're already seeing this with Joe Biden's administration.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Madame Kraken has filed to the Supreme Court.
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Wayback Machine

So that makes it 2 Post-Election lawsuits that have been filed to SCOTUS with 3 days to go until the Electoral College meetup.

I think they're going to pause the Electoral College meetup and then spend a very long time examining various cases and trying to work out what remedy is best to avoid civil war or uniparty dystopia.

Member when it was the globalists who wanted to redo elections until they won?

If they get away with this they won't need to in the future. Any election which is sensitive to them will just be ballot stuffed so they win. Anyone who complains will be ignored by the media, silenced on social media, and arrested for lockdown violations if they try to protest IRL.

Incidentally, it's a very good sign that Alito is woke on the lockdown question.

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

I'm well aware. That's what I allude to in the first response you quote.


Handle contingent elections.


Certify the vote tallies and designate electors. In general, they define election law in their state.


...individuals can pursue litigation. State legislatures in particular can deny certification, and can pass measures to reclaim the necessary powers to personally designate electors.


That noose is getting to your brain.

They handle contingent elections. There will not be a contingent election if the SCOTUS does not rule in your favor - and if the SCOTUS does rule in your favor, then 2020 already deviates from 2016 in a relevant manner: 4 states would have their results overturned, in essence.

All 50 states have already certified their vote, regardless of the legislators who dissent. You need to compel them to decertify, which is either the SCOTUS or GA's investigative committee right now. If the states attempt to deviate in sending electors, this triggers a constitutional crisis. Somehow, all these states that have certified are just going to pass legislative bills to decertify? Riiight.

We are within the safe harbor. Individuals cannot pursue litigation, and the states at current effectively need to be compelled to decertify. Anything that came before safe harbor fell, provided there are no challenges to the wording of safe harbor, might be able to compel them - again, SCOTUS and GA.

You're 0-40 for lawsuits and 0-50 for denial of certification. You've got two hopes that there is any contest which sets this apart from 2016 - and one of which still leaves Biden in the seat.

Is the SCOTUS even allowed to postpone the EC convention?

Open question, actually. People are kindof just assuming that it can - or that it can force certain states to delay on the selection of their electors and have them vote at different times.
If we assume that they are able to issue a stay regardless of safe harbor, (3 U.S. Code § 5), then the wording of 3 U.S. Code § 2. becomes relevant:
"Whenever any State has held an election for the purpose of choosing electors, and has failed to make a choice on the day prescribed by law, the electors may be appointed on a subsequent day in such a manner as the legislature of such State may direct."
Throwing out the 'choice' that was made by the election at the time means that they can be appointed on a subsequent day, and presumably that those voters would be vacant.

And that vacancy is 3 U.S. Code § 4.: "Each State may, by law, provide for the filling of any vacancies which may occur in its college of electors when such college meets to give its electoral vote."
Problem is, the date is specific - 3 U.S. Code § 7.: "The electors of President and Vice President of each State shall meet and give their votes on the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December next following their appointment at such place in each State as the legislature of such State shall direct."

So there's a few probable reads - either a stay is issued and it is somehow invented that the EC meets later (very unlikely imo), or the court rescinds all of the electors in time for the legislatures to re-appoint electors, or the court doesn't do anything and sits on the case/rejects it, the deadline falls, and the states send their electors out as normal.

 

[The High Prophet of Truth]

Honestly been out of the loop on all this but it seems democrats got caught and blocking everyone at every chance possible?

They're trying to block everything, yes. And while they aren't admitting to anything, they never deny cheating either, just that it's damaging democracy by questioning it and outright telling the USSC to ignore the massive Texas lawsuit that got pushed.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

They handle contingent elections. There will not be a contingent election if the SCOTUS does not rule in your favor - and if the SCOTUS does rule in your favor, then 2020 already deviates from 2016 in a relevant manner: 4 states would have their results overturned, in essence.

All 50 states have already certified their vote, regardless of the legislators who dissent. You need to compel them to decertify, which is either the SCOTUS or GA's investigative committee right now. If the states attempt to deviate in sending electors, this triggers a constitutional crisis. Somehow, all these states that have certified are just going to pass legislative bills to decertify? Riiight.

We are within the safe harbor. Individuals cannot pursue litigation, and the states at current effectively need to be compelled to decertify. Anything that came before safe harbor fell, provided there are no challenges to the wording of safe harbor, might be able to compel them - again, SCOTUS and GA.

You're 0-40 for lawsuits and 0-50 for denial of certification. You've got two hopes that there is any contest which sets this apart from 2016 - and one of which still leaves Biden in the seat.

Are you even trying to stay on topic at this point, or do you intend to sprawl into broad discussions I insist on not having but you insist on forcing?