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Can't help these fuckers.
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Well it’s a bit sneaky. If you’re going with “they’re just one of the girls” it seems fine, and after all, it’s not like lesbians threaten you if you say “no” so what’s the big deal?

also, I think the trans activists online tend to be a lot more....assholey than your average MtF. I only know one in real life and she (yes I use she) is sweet, pretty quiet, and very professional. There’s never any issue because she is very chill about the whole thing. Being trans is part of who she is but not everything.

but likely, this person was never a misogynistic shitlord to begin with, so, while there are discrepancies, they aren’t so freakishly apparent as they are with the keyboard warriors.

Edit: as a point, she doesn’t do hormones and is not planning to do any surgeries. I wonder if that has something to do with it?
The hormones can’t be good for your mental state, no.
Longpost about tranny sperging from my dear neighbour, so skip this if you want

An Indian video streaming service announced an original series called Pati, Patni aur Panga (husband, wife and a fight). The "wife" is a male troon keeping it secret (played by a cis woman. guess they needed her looks to reel watchers in), secret gets out and drama begins. The series itself seems to be rather sympathetic to the troon but that isn't enough of course.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=_iLigqPWPS0(there are english subtitles)

Then, this lovely lady steps in with her very feminine opinions

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Lots of accusations of it being the height of transphobia of course







There's more but I'm not uploading any more images one by one. Most of the anger is in English so you can find some yourself if you want
Does the incel to troon pipeline apply to Indian guys in the US? I assume not in India because of the arranged marriage thing.
 
How is the premise transphobic when it's one of their favorite scenarios for troon acceptance? That trannies are so indistinguishable from real women that supposedly we've all already encountered dozens, had them in bathrooms and changerooms all our lives, even dated them and had no idea? If they could stealth, they would. In the meantime they'll just troon out children to get closer to that reality.
 
Can't help these fuckers.
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>brainwashed into thinking your a tranny
>taking experimental hormones, likely steralized yourself
>"why won't she just move on"
>trannies that brainwashed you are now slandering you
>they still brainwash people to this day


 
>brainwashed into thinking your a tranny
>taking experimental hormones, likely steralized yourself
>"why won't she just move on"
>trannies that brainwashed you are now slandering you
>they still brainwash people to this day


A lot of detrans people remind me of ex anorexics or alcoholics or so on. They’ve stopped the previous issue, but not the thought processes that led them to it.
 
Does the incel to troon pipeline apply to Indian guys in the US? I assume not in India because of the arranged marriage thing.
Female foeticide and infanticide is a massive problem there to the point where there are millions more men than women. It's gotten so bad women are being kidnapped from Assam/the north east and being sold as wives. Indian incels are very common.

The whole AGP and HSTS thing also seems to hold up there. Ind0ctrination (a very popular tranny there I think) openly talks about how when he came out as gay to his parents they were not accepting.

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The series itself is dog shit. It never introduces any actual chess mechanics, let alone how she herself got good at it. We see her reading a lot of books. Does she enjoy them? Does she mock the inferior beta males in the books? Is she a prodigy, or does she have great memory? Oh right. 4D chess on the ceiling. Silly me.
From what I recall, in the book she learns chess from a janitor at the orphanage where she's at, and she uses a book to help her learn as well. The character is basically Bobby Fischer, but I think the author changed the gender just so people wouldn't t was just a fictionalized retelling of any of the male chess champions. I have not seen the series yet, but the book is not particularly "woke".
 
Female foeticide and infanticide is a massive problem there to the point where there are millions more men than women. It's gotten so bad women are being kidnapped from Assam/the north east and being sold as wives. Indian incels are very common.

The whole AGP and HSTS thing also seems to hold up there. Ind0ctrination (a very popular tranny there I think) openly talks about how when he came out as gay to his parents they were not accepting.

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This kind of woke casting decisions, and how it is so infiltrated in media made everything unwatchable nowadays. Videogames too. But at least on the good side, I can finally just stop consuming media and do something else productive.

Still, if you're going to be realistic, what would be the most realistic explanation of a TiMs working in that position in that era? Would he "pass" well enough in the time that gender role was so strict that people who accept him into work didn't realise that is a male or something? At most I still want it to make sense?

To me, The Queen Gambit is a "well made" show in the basic sense, like many things today but here's something.. off about it. The cinematography and feeling of the show's seem very "paint by number" - that it seems to follow formula of what makes a shot artsy and dreamy and then follows it religiously. Then it tries to cram in good these artisy shots in as much as possible that it started to look like Lana Del Rey music videos - Netflix adaptation.

Like many Netflix shows. It feels very clean and sterile, it is beautiful but kind of soulless. And not to mention that the main character, while marketed as deep, she just seem like another movie "ideal sassy sad girl" that feels removed from reality. Too perfect, and too symbolic

I don't know what the book reads like though.
A "realistic" casting given what I know would be:

Hairdresser
Artist
Crazy homeless tranny

No, seriously, crazy homeless trannies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compton's_Cafeteria_riot

The incident began when a transgender woman resisted arrest by throwing coffee at a police officer. It was followed by drag queens pouring into the streets, fighting back with their high heels and heavy bags.[2]
 
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Honestly, she asked that we use female pronouns (so sure yeah), doesn’t act oppressed, not sure about female spaces, never ran into her in the ladies room but the rest of the office is coed. She isn’t interested in women, has a boyfriend, I work with this person so haven’t seen anything sexual. She dresses very modestly and usually wears long hair up or back. No garish makeup, just a natural look.
She does have a background in STEM, so we assume that the lack of hormones/ surgery comes from knowing that it’s not the safest bet, or as she puts it “everyone has stuff they don’t like about their bodies, mines just a bit more obvious”

Truthfully, it’s not my place to change her. She’s a good worker so I’m not gonna act like an asshole. So long as she does her job who cares?
Sounds like an HSTS, so that's probably why he's not an absolutely insufferable asshole who screams "Trans rights!"
Lucky you!

I feel like HSTS become HSTS due to heteronormativity and the need to blend into a "normal" society, despite the normalization of homosexuality in the modern era.

Or, as I previously mentioned, he could just be into drag, like a small handful of homosexual males (which is what I'm thinking since he's not planning on taking hormones or getting surgery. Those who do drag may ask to be called women but always acknowledge that they're not. If you say, "but you're male", they won't deny it). A little bizarre to those looking in from the outside, but nothing that hasn't been seen before.

And if this is the case, your friend is just a dragqueen and not an MtF (as transitioning would require the planning of taking hormones and/or getting surgery, imho, otherwise you're not "transitioning").
 
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Sounds like an HSTS, so that's probably why he's not an absolutely insufferable asshole who screams "Trans rights!"
Lucky you!

I feel like HSTS become HSTS due to heteronormativity and the need to blend into a "normal" society, despite the normalization of homosexuality in the modern era.

Or, as I previously mentioned, he could just be into drag, like a small handful of homosexual males (which is what I'm thinking since he's not planning on taking hormones or getting surgery. Those who do drag may ask to be called women but always acknowledge that they're not. If you say, "but you're male", they won't deny it). A little bizarre to those looking in from the outside, but nothing that hasn't been seen before.

And if this is the case, your friend is just a dragqueen and not an MtF (as transitioning would require the planning of taking hormones and/or getting surgery, imho, otherwise you're not "transitioning").
Whatevs I try not to get into discussions about the plans that my friends have for their junk.
 
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A lot of detrans people remind me of ex anorexics or alcoholics or so on. They’ve stopped the previous issue, but not the thought processes that led them to it.
As much as the original Reddit post is another loony troon rant - I can't help but to agree partly with the post. Many detransitioners became very obnoxious and operate with a similar mindset to trans activists. The attention seeking and narcissism. The inability to accept that they made a mistake - and blame it on other people, be it trans cult, doctors, their parents, etc. (Yes, I know those people may influenced them into bring trans - but some can't see their fault at all) the similar kind of language police, detrans Reddit had a feud with GC a while back where some GC posters - called their body as being "mutilated" even with a tone of sympathy, which they found offebsuv. As well as chasing the dragon/body dysmorphia that manifested as reverse gender dysphoria where they seem like nothing they do would get them close to original sex or outright delusional view on how much they "passed" when they were trans.

Elle Palmer in the particular comes across as somewhat too in her head, with exhibitions of all of that troony thought process and identity instability I mentioned here. It's not that I don't have sympathy, but any underlying issue is still here.

To be fair, I think anyone who has been duped into troonism are just very sad, I don't hate them, but they definitely have underlying issues that aren't going to be fixed easily. Getting a good therapist is hard, and even if you detransed, it's clouded the system enough that a lot of what you'll get is going bro be affirmative.

Unrelated ponder: I wonder how are former TIFs going to be seen in the near future, especially we're going to get a lot of them? Elle looks perfectly female in the visual sense, until she open her mouth and people with untrained eyes started to wonder if she was a TIM? Would that kind of voice just became part of what we expected of biological women?
 
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As much as the original Reddit post is another loony troon rant - I can't help but to agree partly with the post. Many detransitioners became very obnoxious and operate with a similar mindset to trans activists. The attention seeking and narcissism. The inability to accept that they made a mistake - and blame it on other people, be it trans cult, doctors, their parents, etc. (Yes, I know those people may influenced you into bring trans - but some can't see their fault at all) the similar kind of language police, detrans Reddit had a feud with GC a while back where some GC posters - called their situation as being "mutilated" even with a tone of sympathy. As well as chasing the dragon/body dysmorphia that manifested as reverse gender dysphoria where they seem like nothing they do would get them close to original sex or outright delusional view on how much they "passed" when they were trans.

Elle Palmer in the particular comes across as somewhat too in her head, with exhibitions of all of that troony thought process and identity instability I mentioned here. It's not that I don't have sympathy, but any underlying issue is still here.

To be fair, I think anyone who has been duped into troonism are just very sad, I don't hate them, but they definitely have underlying issues that aren't going to be fixed easily. Getting a good therapist is hard, and even if you detransed, it's clouded the system enough that a lot of what you'll get is going bro be affirmative.

Unrelated ponder: I wonder how are former TIFs going to be seen in the near future, especially we're going to get a lot of them? Elle looks perfectly female in the visual sense, until she open her mouth and people with untrained eyes started to wonder if she was a TIM? Would that kind of voice just became part of what we expected of biological women?
Okay, this could be because I know she’s detrans, but she has FTM face. We’ve discussed on here how T makes female noses bigger and it’s definitely true for her.
It’s going to be like the side effects of early AIDS drugs were for gay men. The drugs produced noticeable physical effects — a buffalo hump on the back, facial wasting, and a pot belly. Even today you see gay men suggest another gay man has ‘poz face’. For lesbians it won’t be a sign that she’ll give you a deadly disease but rather that she has a history of severe mental illness.
A naturally deep woman’s voice, like Tracy Chapman’s, can be appealing, but FTM voice is godawful.
And for the ones who are into men...damn. I know detrans lesbians who have girlfriends. Who’s gonna be into a detrans straight woman?
 
Okay, this could be because I know she’s detrans, but she has FTM face. We’ve discussed on here how T makes female noses bigger and it’s definitely true for her.
It’s going to be like the side effects of early AIDS drugs were for gay men. The drugs produced noticeable physical effects — a buffalo hump on the back, facial wasting, and a pot belly. Even today you see gay men suggest another gay man has ‘poz face’. For lesbians it won’t be a sign that she’ll give you a deadly disease but rather that she has a history of severe mental illness.
A naturally deep woman’s voice, like Tracy Chapman’s, can be appealing, but FTM voice is godawful.
And for the ones who are into men...damn. I know detrans lesbians who have girlfriends. Who’s gonna be into a detrans straight woman?
That is where I'm thinking, especially we get so many straight fujoshis trooning out these days. It's a thing in lesbian community for some to go for a more masculine women and they seem kind of countercultural enough.

The 'aftermath' of troon-explosion is something I've thought a lot, it fascinate me what might happen. We conducted a mass experiment on severely mentally ill people, in the guise of progress, on the weak foundation that it is going to fall apart when it becomes too big. I wonder if it'll change how people view sexual traits, in the case where transgender people are not to be seen as an advancement in individual expression but rather a relic of a bygone era, and many becomes 'detrans' because people are not going to validate their identity anymore. People are going to be left with a certain 'look' they can't escape. I can think of that poz-face scenario, then perhaps would it be similar to foot-binding in China, and what about some fetishtic angle related to it? Some say that latex fetish pretty much started from around WW1 when people had to do gas mask drill?

I am naturally deep voiced and I've got the 'are you a man or a woman' on the phone a few times - but there is still a difference from that TiFs.
 
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You gotta love it when the left does this shit, the whole debate about abortion and bodily autonomy I mean.
The coronavirus crisis already has destroyed the bodily autonomy argument from the left.

And please, tell me, how comes that abortion isn't murder and the fetus isn't sentient, but in the moment that women systematically decide to abort female fetuses, like they do in China and India, then it becomes genocide.
A fetus is either a human being or not, feminists can't have a Schrödinger's fetus whenever it's convenient.
Anyway, so glad that feminists are reaping what they sow with the tranny situation and virtually no young person taking them seriously.
It can be difficult to be more retarded than a thread’s subject(s), but here you have succeeded.
 
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