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[Deepland Bystander]

I particularly liked this comment from the GC tread;
“If you look at the details of the report, the big increase in sex reassignment surgeries that's occurring and is predicted to continue at even higher rates is in surgeries that don't involve the genitals. "Sex reassignment surgery" and "gender confirmation surgeries" nowadays is a broad category that for females mainly means double mastectomies, and for males mainly means a host of cosmetic surgeries above the waist, such as facial feminization surgery, chest augmentation with implanted sacs of gel or fluid to mimic the appearance of adult female breasts, tracheal shaves and the like.* Only a minority of these surgeries are on the genitals.

*For males today, "gender affirming medical care" also commonly includes involve facial hair removal, contouring of the upper front teeth to change the shape of the upper lip to make it appear "more feminine," and lip fillers and butt and hip injections. Although some of these procedures are done by practitioners who also perform surgeries, they themselves are not surgeries. But the language is changing: the nomenclature that's becoming increasingly popular is "gender affirming/confirmation/sex change care/treatment/procedures."

The sleight of hand is intentional: the gender cultists want to use terms they know the general public will assume refer to genital surgeries when in reality they are talking about double mastectomies and cosmetic procedures to pretty up men so they can better pose as the opposite sex.”

I used to lurk GC before it was banned from Reddit and I recognise that commenter is a bit of an inflexible and pedantic killjoy, who seems to think that there is only one correct way to view feminism and trans issue. Well, she wasn't wrong, but did she implied that if those stats are dick-chops it would be better for out society or something? I'd just say that the whole radfem community is a cow pasture on its own.

Regardless if most of the surgeries performed aren't genital works, these procedures are a lucrative business and in a certain view, destructive. In fact even if the article was titled differently I wouldn't see troons or GRS doctors in a better or worse light. They're still profiting off duping people into quack medicine regardless.

 

[How Do You Do Fellow Kids]

but did she implied that if those stats are dick-chops it would be better for out society or something?

I think what she's getting at is that these surgeries are being marketed as a medical necessity when, at least for the males, these are cosmetic surgeries. And in the context of a national healthcare system, that means normies are paying for someone else's plastic surgery while their own wouldn't be covered.

 

[Surfin Terf]

I used to lurk GC before it was banned from Reddit and I recognise that commenter is a bit of an inflexible and pedantic killjoy, who seems to think that there is only one correct way to view feminism and trans issue. Well, she wasn't wrong, but did she implied that if those stats are dick-chops it would be better for out society or something? I'd just say that the whole radfem community is a cow pasture on its own.

Regardless if most of the surgeries performed aren't genital works, these procedures are a lucrative business and in a certain view, destructive. In fact even if the article was titled differently I wouldn't see troons or GRS doctors in a better or worse light. They're still profiting off duping people into quack medicine regardless.

Consistently we've seen that society at large assumes that trannies have gotten the chop and are therefore, even if they aren't actually women, serious enough to make real sacrifices in the name of being seen as women. If you didn't know the truth about troons wouldn't it sound insane for someone to claim that a man had had his genitals surgically removed so that he could prey on women? That's what a lot of people are seeing when they see the bathroom debate, that's the reason that they've been able to make real gains in the culture war. If people realized that most of the time they just get breast implants or other relatively minor cosmetic surgery (or less) then they'd be a lot less sympathetic.

 

[Safir]

Well, she wasn't wrong, but did she implied that if those stats are dick-chops it would be better for out society or something?

Two things:
1. The public by and large still thinks troon == extra gay and "transwoman" == dick chop, therefore "transwomen" are safe and can be allowed into women's restrooms.
2. Normal people don't want to mutilate their dicks or tits any more than healthy people want chemo, and they tend to not question why the money goes where it does. Once they're made aware that troons are getting free boob jobs, hair removals, hair transplants, face beautifications, and genital mutilation isn't actually a requirement, they'll want in on this. Why doesn't an ex-hambeast get free skin removal? Why doesn't a balding man get free hair plugs?

 

[Neko GF]

Based JKR-

https://twitter.com/Emmy_Zje/status/1334303654195687425 (Archive)

>"Also worth noting that JKR isn’t an expert in science, biology, trans healthcare, trans children, or anything related to any of it.".

I wonder if Jimmy would bring this up if JRK agreed with him on troon shit.

 

[Rotter]

You forgot the zits, yellow skin from like liver damage, and receeding hairline.

¿Te gusta mi obra maestra?

 

[KingCoelacanth]

Imagine living in a country where you believe that rich celebrities can sway court decisions, without even participating, and then crying that the court was swayed the wrong way rather than how the court was swayed at all

 

[eternal dog mongler]

What's I don't get do whatsover regarding Trans right is that what is the benefits to our society to give them free pass on everything? In the way other identies in liberal activism don't get to the same extent, not LGB and not racial minorities.

Yeah, the amount of cover that they get for all their shitty behavior is insane. Nobody on the left ever says "well it's okay for black men to leave their children, that's part of their culture."

But if a troon comes out as a true lady as part of a mid-life crisis and abandons his family then people are falling all over themselves to excuse his behavior.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Based JKR-
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https://twitter.com/Emmy_Zje/status/1334303654195687425 (Archive)

>"Also worth noting that JKR isn’t an expert in science, biology, trans healthcare, trans children, or anything related to any of it.".

I wonder if Jimmy would bring this up if JRK agreed with him on troon shit.

LMAO troons & BLM don't deserve a single cent from JK.

Also I love how he thinks JK influenced the court decision.

"Damn you, JK Terfling and your transphobic biological sex propaganda!!11 It's only because of you the court ruled that minors can't consent to harmful drugs & sterilization!1 Traaaaaansphoooobiaaaaaaa!!!!11"

 

[CivilianOfTheFandomWars]

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Look, if I wanted to fuck something that looks like a pastrami sandwich I’d get drunk and try to cook again. And as for the lesbeings out there, is this in any way different than some dude saying “you just haven’t good dick yet”?
“Boypussy” is not real, “girldick” is not real, and whomever someone is attracted to is between them and whatever god they hold.
Overall, I feel bad for the women who have to put up with this nonsense. At least the gays seem to hold their own well enough. But women, it looks like shits getting weirder and weirder for them.

 

[Governor Jeb Bush]

Here. This made me really feel sick and confused.

https://jme.bmj.com/content/46/11/743

"Forever young? The ethics of ongoing puberty suppression for non-binary adults" -

Spoiler: The Case

"Phoenix, 18, was assigned female at birth but has identified as gender non-binary (not entirely/exclusively male or female) since age 5. Phoenix uses they/them pronouns, has short hair and wears gender-neutral clothes. When Phoenix was 11, they began puberty and became extremely distressed by development of their breast buds and anxious about menstruation commencing soon. This prompted Phoenix and their parents to ask Phoenix’s paediatrician for puberty blockers to halt puberty and stop further pubertal development. At that time, Phoenix told their paediatrician they did not want to discontinue the use of such blockers in the future, as they did not want to go through any puberty. Given Phoenix’s severe distress, Phoenix’s paediatrician agreed puberty blockers should be given, but informed Phoenix and their parents he was not prepared to prescribe long-term puberty suppression, as this is riskier than short-term suppression. The paediatrician stated that, when Phoenix turned 16 and had a better sense of their gender identity, they would meet to discuss whether Phoenix wished to discontinue the puberty blockers and (1) revert to their endogenous (female) sex hormones or (2) commence testosterone.

When Phoenix turned 16, they informed their paediatrician that they did not want option (1) or (2). Rather, Phoenix was confident they would identify as non-binary for the rest of their life and wanted to stay on puberty blockers ‘forever’ to ensure their body remained in a ‘genderless’ state. Reluctantly, the paediatrician agreed to extend Phoenix’s time on blockers for another 2 years.

Recently, Phoenix entered the adult healthcare system and informed their new doctor that their desire to continue puberty suppression on an ongoing basis has not changed. Phoenix feels that remaining in an androgynous, peripubertal state is the only way that their body can truly reflect their non-binary gender identity. Phoenix, supported by their parents, has the financial means to pay for ongoing puberty suppression (OPS) (approximately $A5200 per year in Australia).

Phoenix does not have any underlying medical conditions which would specifically contraindicate hormonal intervention. Nevertheless, Phoenix’s new doctor feels that OPS is still too physically risky, especially with regard to bone health, and wonders if Phoenix has underlying psychological issues about not wanting to grow up.

Phoenix’s doctor refers Phoenix to a psychologist, who confirms that Phoenix continues to have significant distress about their body, similar in degree to that experienced by binary trans patients that the psychologist has seen. Phoenix has regular counselling with the psychologist, who judges that Phoenix’s distress is significant and enduring, and is not a symptom of an underlying psychopathology. The psychologist also reports that she does not see any signs that indicate Phoenix has a fear of growing up.

Phoenix tells the psychologist that they highly value having a body that matches their gender identity. Alternative options, including low-dose testosterone, menstrual suppression and future ‘top’ surgery, are unacceptable to Phoenix because they do not believe these alternatives would accurately reflect their non-binary gender identity.

Phoenix’s doctor and psychologist conduct a capacity assessment, and find Phoenix capable of consenting to OPS. The psychologist also verifies that Phoenix’s desire for OPS is long-standing, informed, voluntary and free from coercion.

Should Phoenix’s new doctor agree to prescribe puberty blockers for Phoenix to take on an ongoing basis?"

right, honestly this made me feel weird reading it. How the fuck would that benefit anyone to have no PUBERTY at all to be non binary? what in the fucking fuck?

I can understand (to a point) people switching gender. It's a bit far fetched, some are obvs pervs but isn't entirely stupid nor a perversion for some. BLOCKING PUBERTY FOR SOMEONES WHOLE LIFE? THE HECK. It's like some nazi experiment to breed children that never grow. I can't understand it.

I tap out, im done; This is the worst thing i have read. oml.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Here. This made me really feel sick and confused.

https://jme.bmj.com/content/46/11/743

"Forever young? The ethics of ongoing puberty suppression for non-binary adults" -

Spoiler: The Case

"Phoenix, 18, was assigned female at birth but has identified as gender non-binary (not entirely/exclusively male or female) since age 5. Phoenix uses they/them pronouns, has short hair and wears gender-neutral clothes. When Phoenix was 11, they began puberty and became extremely distressed by development of their breast buds and anxious about menstruation commencing soon. This prompted Phoenix and their parents to ask Phoenix’s paediatrician for puberty blockers to halt puberty and stop further pubertal development. At that time, Phoenix told their paediatrician they did not want to discontinue the use of such blockers in the future, as they did not want to go through any puberty. Given Phoenix’s severe distress, Phoenix’s paediatrician agreed puberty blockers should be given, but informed Phoenix and their parents he was not prepared to prescribe long-term puberty suppression, as this is riskier than short-term suppression. The paediatrician stated that, when Phoenix turned 16 and had a better sense of their gender identity, they would meet to discuss whether Phoenix wished to discontinue the puberty blockers and (1) revert to their endogenous (female) sex hormones or (2) commence testosterone.

When Phoenix turned 16, they informed their paediatrician that they did not want option (1) or (2). Rather, Phoenix was confident they would identify as non-binary for the rest of their life and wanted to stay on puberty blockers ‘forever’ to ensure their body remained in a ‘genderless’ state. Reluctantly, the paediatrician agreed to extend Phoenix’s time on blockers for another 2 years.

Recently, Phoenix entered the adult healthcare system and informed their new doctor that their desire to continue puberty suppression on an ongoing basis has not changed. Phoenix feels that remaining in an androgynous, peripubertal state is the only way that their body can truly reflect their non-binary gender identity. Phoenix, supported by their parents, has the financial means to pay for ongoing puberty suppression (OPS) (approximately $A5200 per year in Australia).

Phoenix does not have any underlying medical conditions which would specifically contraindicate hormonal intervention. Nevertheless, Phoenix’s new doctor feels that OPS is still too physically risky, especially with regard to bone health, and wonders if Phoenix has underlying psychological issues about not wanting to grow up.

Phoenix’s doctor refers Phoenix to a psychologist, who confirms that Phoenix continues to have significant distress about their body, similar in degree to that experienced by binary trans patients that the psychologist has seen. Phoenix has regular counselling with the psychologist, who judges that Phoenix’s distress is significant and enduring, and is not a symptom of an underlying psychopathology. The psychologist also reports that she does not see any signs that indicate Phoenix has a fear of growing up.

Phoenix tells the psychologist that they highly value having a body that matches their gender identity. Alternative options, including low-dose testosterone, menstrual suppression and future ‘top’ surgery, are unacceptable to Phoenix because they do not believe these alternatives would accurately reflect their non-binary gender identity.

Phoenix’s doctor and psychologist conduct a capacity assessment, and find Phoenix capable of consenting to OPS. The psychologist also verifies that Phoenix’s desire for OPS is long-standing, informed, voluntary and free from coercion.

Should Phoenix’s new doctor agree to prescribe puberty blockers for Phoenix to take on an ongoing basis?"

right, honestly this made me feel weird reading it. How the fuck would that benefit anyone to have no PUBERTY at all to be non binary? what in the fucking fuck?

I can understand (to a point) people switching gender. It's a bit far fetched, some are obvs pervs but isn't entirely stupid nor a perversion for some. BLOCKING PUBERTY FOR SOMEONES WHOLE LIFE? THE HECK. It's like some nazi experiment to breed children that never grow. I can't understand it.

I tap out, im done; This is the worst thing i have read. oml.

There is a huge elephant in the room gender loons won't adress:

There is NO drug called "puberty blockers". These drugs are gnrh agonists - which are mainly used as chemotherapy for cancer patients with HORRIFYING side effects. There are people who became disabled after using these drugs.

Women fear drug they used to halt puberty led to health problems

Despite questions about Lupron’s lasting side effects and minimal study into its safety, the FDA sped approval of the drug to market.

www.pbs.org

All about Lupron – what you don’t know can harm you

Side effects include: Bone thining, libido loss, bone pain, genital atrophy, memory loss, teeth problems and so on.

Gender loons pretend these drugs are harmless, save and reversible. Bullshit! They wreck your health and the longer you use them the worse it gets.

Everyone who gives healthy children these drugs is evil. No matter how much they pretend they do it for the poor gender confused kids. That's like "curing" a headache with decapitation. Little gender Snowflake doesn't know that she is going to spend the rest of her life in a wheelchair and/or in constant pain because the puberty blocking poison is going to ruin her bones and her health.

Gender Snowflakery has gone way too far.

 

[Fliddaroonie]

There is a huge elephant in the room gender loons wont adress:

There is NO drug called "puberty blockers". These drugs are gnrh agonists - which are mainly used ad chemotherapy for cancer patients with HORRIFYING side effects. There are people who became disabled after using these drugs.

Women fear drug they used to halt puberty led to health problems

Despite questions about Lupron’s lasting side effects and minimal study into its safety, the FDA sped approval of the drug to market.

www.pbs.org

All about Lupron – what you don’t know can harm you

Side effects include: Bone thining, libido loss, bone pain, genital atrophy, memory loss and so on.

Gender loons pretend these drugs are harmless, save and reversible. Bullshit! They wreck your health and the longer you use them the worse it get's.

Everyone who gives healthy children these drugs is evil. No matter how much they pretend they do it for the poor gender confused kids. That's like "curing" a headache with decapitation.

Even with cancer treatment there's harm but it's seen as needed to prevent death from cancer. Plus with cancer treatment it's time limited, not taken for years and even then it causes serious harm.

the fact some people see never going through puberty as a good thing indicates that there's people in the trans movement who're pedoes. I mean we knew that with Peter Tatchell being all over lowering age of consent, baws deep in the pedophile information exchange and totally into all of that.

 

[Coffee Druid]

Here. This made me really feel sick and confused.

https://jme.bmj.com/content/46/11/743

"Forever young? The ethics of ongoing puberty suppression for non-binary adults" -

Spoiler: The Case

"Phoenix, 18, was assigned female at birth but has identified as gender non-binary (not entirely/exclusively male or female) since age 5. Phoenix uses they/them pronouns, has short hair and wears gender-neutral clothes. When Phoenix was 11, they began puberty and became extremely distressed by development of their breast buds and anxious about menstruation commencing soon. This prompted Phoenix and their parents to ask Phoenix’s paediatrician for puberty blockers to halt puberty and stop further pubertal development. At that time, Phoenix told their paediatrician they did not want to discontinue the use of such blockers in the future, as they did not want to go through any puberty. Given Phoenix’s severe distress, Phoenix’s paediatrician agreed puberty blockers should be given, but informed Phoenix and their parents he was not prepared to prescribe long-term puberty suppression, as this is riskier than short-term suppression. The paediatrician stated that, when Phoenix turned 16 and had a better sense of their gender identity, they would meet to discuss whether Phoenix wished to discontinue the puberty blockers and (1) revert to their endogenous (female) sex hormones or (2) commence testosterone.

When Phoenix turned 16, they informed their paediatrician that they did not want option (1) or (2). Rather, Phoenix was confident they would identify as non-binary for the rest of their life and wanted to stay on puberty blockers ‘forever’ to ensure their body remained in a ‘genderless’ state. Reluctantly, the paediatrician agreed to extend Phoenix’s time on blockers for another 2 years.

Recently, Phoenix entered the adult healthcare system and informed their new doctor that their desire to continue puberty suppression on an ongoing basis has not changed. Phoenix feels that remaining in an androgynous, peripubertal state is the only way that their body can truly reflect their non-binary gender identity. Phoenix, supported by their parents, has the financial means to pay for ongoing puberty suppression (OPS) (approximately $A5200 per year in Australia).

Phoenix does not have any underlying medical conditions which would specifically contraindicate hormonal intervention. Nevertheless, Phoenix’s new doctor feels that OPS is still too physically risky, especially with regard to bone health, and wonders if Phoenix has underlying psychological issues about not wanting to grow up.

Phoenix’s doctor refers Phoenix to a psychologist, who confirms that Phoenix continues to have significant distress about their body, similar in degree to that experienced by binary trans patients that the psychologist has seen. Phoenix has regular counselling with the psychologist, who judges that Phoenix’s distress is significant and enduring, and is not a symptom of an underlying psychopathology. The psychologist also reports that she does not see any signs that indicate Phoenix has a fear of growing up.

Phoenix tells the psychologist that they highly value having a body that matches their gender identity. Alternative options, including low-dose testosterone, menstrual suppression and future ‘top’ surgery, are unacceptable to Phoenix because they do not believe these alternatives would accurately reflect their non-binary gender identity.

Phoenix’s doctor and psychologist conduct a capacity assessment, and find Phoenix capable of consenting to OPS. The psychologist also verifies that Phoenix’s desire for OPS is long-standing, informed, voluntary and free from coercion.

Should Phoenix’s new doctor agree to prescribe puberty blockers for Phoenix to take on an ongoing basis?"

right, honestly this made me feel weird reading it. How the fuck would that benefit anyone to have no PUBERTY at all to be non binary? what in the fucking fuck?

I can understand (to a point) people switching gender. It's a bit far fetched, some are obvs pervs but isn't entirely stupid nor a perversion for some. BLOCKING PUBERTY FOR SOMEONES WHOLE LIFE? THE HECK. It's like some nazi experiment to breed children that never grow. I can't understand it.

I tap out, im done; This is the worst thing i have read. oml.

People have talked in this thread and the GRS horrors one about the future health issues caused by blocking puberty temporarily. But forever? What slew of problems would that end up with?

It also makes me really ticked off, as someone growing up as a tomboy and having whatever hobbies or clothing I wanted to wear and being comfortable with it. Is it irrational of me? I legitimately don’t understand why non binary is a thing. Gender non conforming is perfectly fine if you just like stuff that doesn’t “fit” your sex. Be butch or dainty or androgynous or all of the above. You don’t have to (and literally cannot) nope out of the gender concept because you want to. It’s insulting to people as well (primarily women since 99% of envies I see are female) since it implies that they don’t want to be one at all. Anything but.

Edit: some other people have posted side effects. I don’t understand it. Either the doctors failed to explain anything, they (or the parents) failed to do any research themselves, or the individuals know and STILL go through with damaging procedures because ew, puberty is awful.

 

[Terf Miku]

Found this gem

 

[remiem]

There is a huge elephant in the room gender loons wont adress:

There is NO drug called "puberty blockers". These drugs are gnrh agonists - which are mainly used ad chemotherapy for cancer patients with HORRIFYING side effects. There are people who became disabled after using these drugs.

Women fear drug they used to halt puberty led to health problems

Despite questions about Lupron’s lasting side effects and minimal study into its safety, the FDA sped approval of the drug to market.

www.pbs.org

All about Lupron – what you don’t know can harm you

Side effects include: Bone thining, libido loss, bone pain, genital atrophy, memory loss and so on.

Gender loons pretend these drugs are harmless, save and reversible. Bullshit! They wreck your health and the longer you use them the worse it get's.

Everyone who gives healthy children these drugs is evil. No matter how much they pretend they do it for the poor gender confused kids. That's like "curing" a headache with decapitation.

Imo. Didn't we have a study awhile ago in this thread that also expressed concerns that long term use of hormone blockers in younger people may actually mentally stunt you as well? Puberty isn't just body changes it's when your brain begins to develop into an adult brain because of those hormones. As well as the concern that there's a window for puberty that you may inadvertently close because your body is still aging even though you're stopping it from hormonally developing. So even if you change your mind and stop in your twenties your body might decide that no, you don't get a puberty. In which case you'd what? have to try to artificially induce it?

All those side effects in someone who hasn't even undergone puberty would arguably be worse; bone development halted, no libido developed, no development of genitals, lack of brain development.

It's like everyone thinks hormones are just some science word and they don't matter much beyond giving you some secondary sex characteristics but they literally govern every aspect of your growth.

There's no way this doesn't cause a spike in Dementia and Alzheimer's.

 

[How Do You Do Fellow Kids]

Found this gem

https://youtube.com/watch?v=eyRmiNgNiCE

lmao that whole channel is terf gold

 

[The Great Citracett]

Imo. Didn't we have a study awhile ago in this thread that also expressed concerns that long term use of hormone blockers in younger people may actually mentally stunt you as well? Puberty isn't just body changes it's when your brain begins to develop into an adult brain because of those hormones. As well as the concern that there's a window for puberty that you may inadvertently close because your body is still aging even though you're stopping it from hormonally developing. So even if you change your mind and stop in your twenties your body might decide that no, you don't a puberty. In which case you'd what? have to try to artificially induce it?

All those side effects in someone who hasn't even undergone puberty would arguably be worse; bone development halted, no libido developed, no development of genitals, lack of brain development.

It's like everyone thinks hormones are just some science word and they don't matter much beyond giving you some secondary sex characteristics but they literally govern every aspect of your growth.

There's no way this doesn't cause a spike in Dementia and Alzheimer's.

I remember it came up in the Jazz Jennings thread and there were studies that all basically indicated that blockers given to kids caused an IQ around 10 points lower than normal, in addition to the brain being stuck permanently at a preteen level of maturity, and all the behaviors and poor decision making that goes with it.

 

[Punitive Castration]

I remember it came up in the Jazz Jennings thread and there were studies that all basically indicated that blockers given to kids caused an IQ around 10 points lower than normal, in addition to the brain being stuck permanently at a preteen level of maturity, and all the behaviors and poor decision making that goes with it.

So, you could say that as long as someone remains on puberty blockers they cannot consent to sex... or to the puberty blockers themselves.

 

[Sí.]

Here. This made me really feel sick and confused.

https://jme.bmj.com/content/46/11/743

"Forever young? The ethics of ongoing puberty suppression for non-binary adults" -

Spoiler: The Case

"Phoenix, 18, was assigned female at birth but has identified as gender non-binary (not entirely/exclusively male or female) since age 5. Phoenix uses they/them pronouns, has short hair and wears gender-neutral clothes. When Phoenix was 11, they began puberty and became extremely distressed by development of their breast buds and anxious about menstruation commencing soon. This prompted Phoenix and their parents to ask Phoenix’s paediatrician for puberty blockers to halt puberty and stop further pubertal development. At that time, Phoenix told their paediatrician they did not want to discontinue the use of such blockers in the future, as they did not want to go through any puberty. Given Phoenix’s severe distress, Phoenix’s paediatrician agreed puberty blockers should be given, but informed Phoenix and their parents he was not prepared to prescribe long-term puberty suppression, as this is riskier than short-term suppression. The paediatrician stated that, when Phoenix turned 16 and had a better sense of their gender identity, they would meet to discuss whether Phoenix wished to discontinue the puberty blockers and (1) revert to their endogenous (female) sex hormones or (2) commence testosterone.

When Phoenix turned 16, they informed their paediatrician that they did not want option (1) or (2). Rather, Phoenix was confident they would identify as non-binary for the rest of their life and wanted to stay on puberty blockers ‘forever’ to ensure their body remained in a ‘genderless’ state. Reluctantly, the paediatrician agreed to extend Phoenix’s time on blockers for another 2 years.

Recently, Phoenix entered the adult healthcare system and informed their new doctor that their desire to continue puberty suppression on an ongoing basis has not changed. Phoenix feels that remaining in an androgynous, peripubertal state is the only way that their body can truly reflect their non-binary gender identity. Phoenix, supported by their parents, has the financial means to pay for ongoing puberty suppression (OPS) (approximately $A5200 per year in Australia).

Phoenix does not have any underlying medical conditions which would specifically contraindicate hormonal intervention. Nevertheless, Phoenix’s new doctor feels that OPS is still too physically risky, especially with regard to bone health, and wonders if Phoenix has underlying psychological issues about not wanting to grow up.

Phoenix’s doctor refers Phoenix to a psychologist, who confirms that Phoenix continues to have significant distress about their body, similar in degree to that experienced by binary trans patients that the psychologist has seen. Phoenix has regular counselling with the psychologist, who judges that Phoenix’s distress is significant and enduring, and is not a symptom of an underlying psychopathology. The psychologist also reports that she does not see any signs that indicate Phoenix has a fear of growing up.

Phoenix tells the psychologist that they highly value having a body that matches their gender identity. Alternative options, including low-dose testosterone, menstrual suppression and future ‘top’ surgery, are unacceptable to Phoenix because they do not believe these alternatives would accurately reflect their non-binary gender identity.

Phoenix’s doctor and psychologist conduct a capacity assessment, and find Phoenix capable of consenting to OPS. The psychologist also verifies that Phoenix’s desire for OPS is long-standing, informed, voluntary and free from coercion.

Should Phoenix’s new doctor agree to prescribe puberty blockers for Phoenix to take on an ongoing basis?"

right, honestly this made me feel weird reading it. How the fuck would that benefit anyone to have no PUBERTY at all to be non binary? what in the fucking fuck?

I can understand (to a point) people switching gender. It's a bit far fetched, some are obvs pervs but isn't entirely stupid nor a perversion for some. BLOCKING PUBERTY FOR SOMEONES WHOLE LIFE? THE HECK. It's like some nazi experiment to breed children that never grow. I can't understand it.

I tap out, im done; This is the worst thing i have read. oml.

Her refusal to grow up is gonna get her killed at this rate. I doubt anyone is going to actually explain that to her and make sure she stops, and that sucks.

Phoenix, 18, was assigned female at birth but has identified as gender non-binary (not entirely/exclusively male or female) since age 5

Her parents especially are going to do nothing to help, since they're clearly the ones who got her into this mess to begin with.