🐱 Using Elliot Page's 'deadname' is a problem—here's why - But he can continue to play gril roles

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Elliot Page released an Instagram post announcing that he is transgender—but many fans of the Umbrella Academy and Juno actor were unhappy with the way that the news was reported. Particularly, fans, member of the LGBTQ+ communities and allies were displeased at the media's continued use of the actor's birth name—or, as it is known among the trans community, his "deadname."

In many articles about Page's Instagram post, news outlets clarified the story with phrases like "formerly known as [birth name]". From a journalist's perspective, there is a temptation use a high-profile transgender man's birth name, especially when that person was well known under that name—as it adds clarity to the story and (more cynically) maxmizes search traffic on the article with the use of both names.


LGBTQ+ media advocacy groups are clear on this: The use of someone's deadname should be avoided in coverage of trans people, as it is harmful to many trans people and propagates a ciscentric worldview.

The reasons as to why are made clear in GLAAD's media reference guide about covering the trans community: "When a transgender person's birth name is used in a story, the implication is almost always that this is the person's 'real name.'

"But in fact, a transgender person's chosen name is their real name, whether or not they are able to obtain a court-ordered name change. Many people use names they have chosen for themselves, and the media does not mention their birth name when writing about them, (e.g., Lady Gaga, Demi Moore, Whoopi Goldberg). Transgender people should be accorded the same respect."

In an NBC News opinion piece, trans activist and ACLU staff attorney Chase Strangio put plainly the harm that deadnaming someone in an article does: "The one I was given at birth that does not align with my gender. It does not represent who I am but rather a painful past that I worked hard to move beyond."

He then describes his problems with the "formerly known as [birth name]" phrase: "by referring to me as "Chase Strangio, formerly known as [deadname]" is to ensure that I will never have the authority to claim the truth of who I am; it cedes that authority to a structure of power and discrimination that would rather I never existed at all."


Elliot Page has clarified how he should be referred to in his Instagram post: "My pronouns are he/they and my name is Elliot."

Though journalists may see the deadnaming of Elliot Page a special case due to him being a public figure pre-coming out, LGBTQ+ groups say that it propogates a language that is harmful to trans people, where their trans identity is merely seen as facade covering their "real" self, when in fact their trans identity is the real self.

Though the deadnaming of Page in an article may not have any negative repercussions on the actor (bar any mental health effects from seeing a name he no longer identifies with), it does propagate a system that has led to transgender people (particularly trans women of color) disproportionately being the victims of hate crimes.
 
Though the deadnaming of Page in an article may not have any negative repercussions on the actor (bar any mental health effects from seeing a name he no longer identifies with), it does propagate a system that has led to transgender people (particularly trans women of color) disproportionately being the victims of hate crimes.

The trans women of color are victims of hate crimes because they live in absolute shithole neighborhoods. That has nothing to do with calling some Hollywood has-been the wrong name on the internet.
 
propogates a language that is harmful to trans people,
Good. Excellent. Spiffing! Wonderful. If I say ”Ellen Page“ and click my heels together 3 times, does it make a troon’s head catch fire?

also, we know the only reason they want to ensure that ”coming out” as transgender divorces them from their “deadname” is so chomos can keep using it as an out.
 
Many people use names they have chosen for themselves, and the media does not mention their birth name when writing about them, (e.g., Lady Gaga, Demi Moore, Whoopi Goldberg). Transgender people should be accorded the same respect."

Somebody never heard of "the artist formally known as Prince."

Spoiler: people will always reference whatever your most known for/by until you become equally/more famous for something else.
 
Trans rights activists continue to express frustration that Soviet style historical revisionism of the birth and pre-transition life of troons isn't as instantaneous or sweeping as they would like it to be.
 
Say "Ellen Page" three times in the mirror in a dark house see what happens bigot
 
If you go berserk from getting called the wrong name, you aren't mentally stable to begin with.
I'm reminded of a certain someone who went berserk whenever people referred to him as the wrong name.

I mean, maybe I'm a paragon of mental stability without even realizing it, but if a random group of people decided to call me an incorrect name like - let's pick a purely hypothetical, random name - "Ian Brandon Anderson", I wouldn't really think much of it. I wouldn't be bothered and I certainly wouldn't have a mental breakdown.

Almost like there's a link between being deeply mentally ill and exhibiting deeply mentally ill behavior. No, that's crazy. That's impossible.
 
Ellen should have picked a name that isn't misspelled as easily as Elliott Eliott Eliot Elliot.
 
Stage plays also captivated me, with their sights full of the images of my own miseries: fuel for my own fire. Now, why does a man like to be made sad by viewing doleful and tragic scenes, which he himself could not by any means endure? Yet, as a spectator, he wishes to experience from them a sense of grief, and in this very sense of grief his pleasure consists. What is this but wretched madness? For a man is more affected by these actions the more he is spuriously involved in these affections. Now, if he should suffer them in his own person, it is the custom to call this “misery.” But when he suffers with another, then it is called “compassion.” But what kind of compassion is it that arises from viewing fictitious and unreal sufferings? The spectator is not expected to aid the sufferer but merely to grieve for him. And the more he grieves the more he applauds the actor of these fictions. If the misfortunes of the characters--whether historical or entirely imaginary--are represented so as not to touch the feelings of the spectator, he goes away disgusted and complaining. But if his feelings are deeply touched, he sits it out attentively, and sheds tears of joy. (St. Augustine, Confessions III.2)
This is also the case with the other senses; it would be tedious to pursue a complete analysis of it. This malady of curiosity is the reason for all those strange sights exhibited in the theater. It is also the reason why we proceed to search out the secret powers of nature--those which have nothing to do with our destiny--which do not profit us to know about, and concerning which men desire to know only for the sake of knowing. And it is with this same motive of perverted curiosity for knowledge that we consult the magical arts. Even in religion itself, this prompting drives us to make trial of God when signs and wonders are eagerly asked of him-- not desired for any saving end, but only to make trial of him. (St. Augustine, Confessions X.25)

Actors' entire lives are based on lying about the issues they have so that weak-hearted people throw their money at them. If you're surprised at Ellen Page doing this, you clearly haven't been reading your Augustinian philosophy.
 
Imagine if she had decided to change her last name too and completely alter her stage persona. At least with Elliot Page most people can put the pieces together pretty easily. It'd be completely unfair to expect the average person to understand what "Elliot Hargrove comes out as transgender" means without having any reference to who that person used to be. Troons fucking suck.
 
Is it gender affirming to call Ellen Page a fag now?

The wikipedia article is already funny:
In 2017, Page alleged having previously been outed as gay in 2005, by filmmaker Brett Ratner
In January 2018, Page announced his marriage to dancer and choreographer Emma Portner on an unspecified date.

The choice of He/Them probably makes it easier when referring back to her old work, "offered them the role of girl who got pregnant" vs. "offered him the role of girl that got pregnant." The PR niggers had a hand in this, I'm sure of it.

They will still have a lot of these moments:
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I'm convinced the people who keep putting out articles about this hate Ellen's guts. There's no way to ensure people become hostile to something quite like shoving it down their throat.
 
Is it gender affirming to call Ellen Page a fag now?

The wikipedia article is already funny:
In 2017, Page alleged having previously been outed as gay in 2005, by filmmaker Brett Ratner
In January 2018, Page announced his marriage to dancer and choreographer Emma Portner on an unspecified date.

The choice of He/Them probably makes it easier when referring back to her old work, "offered them the role of girl who got pregnant" vs. "offered him the role of girl that got pregnant." The PR niggers had a hand in this, I'm sure of it.

They will still have a lot of these moments:
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Lol I was reading her wiki earlier today too. The line about Ratner outing her as gay is great. If she's always been a man, didn't he technically out her as straight, it's just nobody realized it at the time? The troon revisionism can't stand the smallest scrutiny.
 
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