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Deepland Bystander said:
For one thing I do not want to judge someone's outwardly because questioning a troon = bigot = a social suicide. It's hard to find something thats convincing and innocent enough to say. I think that transitioning is a bad idea for him. To me, he seems to only fantasised about a certain type of girls he can't be in real life. And I don't think it'll make him happy in the long run. For my own 'personal' gut instinct reason? any AGP reason feel very creepy and exploitative in general .

the thing is, I don't know what to say without sounding like a moral police. Especially how he helped me going through my own identity issues that can be "questionable" before and it feels like a betrayal to disagree with him.

Not to mention as someone has spiraled down the troon route. They then to get more and more crazy along as they cut themselves off normal society. I actually have to walk an eggshell around him somewhat to avoid him getting annoyed sign of 'incompetency' and other things. There was one point he came across to me quite sociopathic before but he also cared about me somewhat and also fun to have around. - Trooning out will definitely make the whole thing unpalatable.
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I've got a situation like this in my life. Honestly, there's not much arguing you can do because there's such a huge trans echo-chamber online to tell them to cut off any negativity and to come running back to "their true rainbow family". I just stick around, enjoy our gender neutral activity, and make occasional small jabs about, "But women can be strong too" and "no, you need to learn to tie your own hairbows like everyone else". At some point I'm assuming they'll bottom out and we'll be able to have a talk about, "Is your life better now?" Cause it's not.
 
NoReturn said:
I wonder if these people think their internal monologue is a voice in their heads.
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Oh boy you're in for a treat. The entire NPC meme blew up when Redditors got all spergy about internal monologues and the lack thereof, and from there it spread to Twitter where so many people revealed their lack of an internal monologue.
 
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A comeback to the famous “the bone structure tells us this person was male” meme
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Your Local Neko Girl GF said:
Mad over dating preferences:
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MtF/comments/iou92j/seeing_trans_lesbians_invalidated_makes_me_sick/ (Archive)
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"Why won't these dykes validate my Very Special heterosexual relationship as a true and honest lesbian one?" :story:

I wonder what the deal is with these women who date troons. Cluster B bisexuals? Status-seekers who enter "lesbian" relationships with these men for shitlib street cred?
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Is there any aspect of female anatomy that troons don't completely misunderstand? Anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of lactation knows that women don't just shoot the stuff out ounces at a time, not even women who are currently breastfeeding.

Either the troon is lying through his teeth (most likely, gross) or his moobs are leaking pus just like that other troon who lied about being able to lactate before being busted by his ex-wife (less likely, grosser).
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A comeback to the famous “the bone structure tells us this person was male” meme
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Nice to see them completely dropping the pretense that sex and "gender" mean different things. I can't wait for the mass peak trans moment when troons get bold enough to complain about sex-selective abortions, female infanticide and FGM being transphobic and try to make the issues all about themselves.
 
brainlent said:
Slightly related, from /r/relationshipadvice:

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The idea than an otherwise fuckable guy may cuck himself out of sex and a healthy loving relationship because of his porn obsession is sad. I suppose this is probably a similar if not same root cause to transgendering.
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That sounds like something straight out of r/thathappened. Lactation is not so common a kink in hentai that even a hardcore five-times-a-day coomer (read: someone without a girlfriend) would think every girl just squirts out milk with every fuck.
 
Opinion Discarded said:
I wonder what the deal is with these women who date troons. Cluster B bisexuals? Status-seekers who enter "lesbian" relationships with these men for shitlib street cred?
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Mostly the first one I think. The second one probably exists (mostly among trans widows who begrudgingly try to make it work) but it's almost got to be women who are bisexual but don't want to get with a masculine dyke for whatever reason, maybe because of the social implications (though I kinda doubt that since a troon isn't any better) but probably because they find it too intimidating. There's likely a lot of emotional abuse going on the majority of the time also, on both sides, a cluster B dumpster fire and a blubbering insecure troon with flashes of man-anger probably feed into each other in the worst way.

Corn Flakes said:
That sounds like something straight out of r/thathappened. Lactation is not so common a kink in hentai that even a hardcore five-times-a-day coomer (read: someone without a girlfriend) would think every girl just squirts out milk with every fuck.
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I'm leaning towards troll, but it would be funny if a guy actually believed this because he learned everything about sex/women from carefully curated anime porn, and knowing how unbelievable clueless people can be about health/sex/anatomy I can't totally rule it out.
 
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Yes because the possibility of offending the long dead troon is too much to bare. Archaeology is detective work where they try build picture of the past with the fracmented information they can gather. Leaving the sex would be dumb as hell, not only because gender roles affect every day life but also affected the body and what it can tell about life styles, food, illnesses and so on. There is no reason not gender bodies and every reason to do so. Plus it's pretty easy, like an experienced archaeologist can tell by looking about 90 % accuracy just from bones.
 
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Technically it's possible that he lactated but unlikely to be much

Yes because the possibility of offending the long dead troon is too much to bare. Archaeology is detective work where they try build picture of the past with the fracmented information they can gather. Leaving the sex would be dumb as hell, not only because gender roles affect every day life but also affected the body and what it can tell about life styles, food, illnesses and so on. There is no reason not gender bodies and every reason to do so. Plus it's pretty easy, like an experienced archaeologist can tell by looking about 90 % accuracy just from bones.
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Protect trans skeletons
 

r/transformation - [NSFW] ASK A TRANS GIRL QUESTIONS ABOUT BEING TRANS 2.0!!!

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Trans woman makes a post for those wondering what it's like to be trans. I just find it funny this was posted on a transformation fetish sub.

Basically describing the changes HRT is doing to their body.
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Answering a question on whether gender transformations is fetishization.
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How to tell if being trans is a fetish or not.
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Again with the trans women can get periods.
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This person wishes they were a girl and has no desire to transition but wants to know if there's a term to refer themselves.
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Now this last one I'm pretty sure is not a serious question.
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Oh my fucking god eeeewww imagine being the kid whose classmates find out and tell everyone that they got breast fed by their dad. Out of morbid curiosity I just spent like 20 minutes trying to find legitimate cases of men lactating beyond the documented cases of drippy bitch tits but haven't found anything legitimate, lots of "it was reported" and "sources say" along with first and third-hand unsubstantiated stories that are probably fetish fiction and people talking out their asses. I didn't even turn up anything worth posting and just feel filthy now. If any doctors are actually trying to induce this in men on purpose and/or telling them to feed a baby with it they deserve to be flogged along with the SRS butchers.
 
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This shit makes me so MOTI. Breastfeeding is such a loaded topic. Many women torture themselves so they can give their babies the tiniest bit of milk. There's also a reason why lactation inducing drugs are not commonly given (at least in the UK). I'm not one to yell autistically about the benefits of breast m.ilk but it's pretty cool how it changes depending on the baby's needs. No troon drug juice could ever do that. Forget formula, even toilet water would be healthier.

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Looks like Monty Burns with sunglasses.
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Deepland Bystander said:
A little off topic, but I wonder how would you distinguish genuine identity trauma and 'addiction' and delusion of trannyism?

For example, I was intentionally misdiagnosed with a mental condition by munchie parents (Unlike physical-illness munchies, it is very easy to convince a Dr to slaps psychiatric labels on kids and get them hand out drugs like candies) and spent my whole childhood hating the label and the treatment that came with it. Then I grew up and took the matter in my hand and visits a few psychiatrists to assess me again and they don't think that the old diagnosis is applicable and had the label revoked. But then I'd still get upset if people call me or assume I have that condition - Is this dissociation or genuine trauma? Do I have some serious issues for not accepting the diagnosis that wasn't helpful to me.
(Neurodiversity advocates would call that internalised ableism and think that the new doctors who removed my misdiagnosis are incompetent)

the thing about mental and some neurodevelopmental disorders are that they're purely diagnosed by subjective checklist. There's nothing on the 'reality' side like how troons are just a male man in a dress.
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I don’t think it’s a case of identifying one from the other, more that it’s all a mish-mash and unpicking it and resolving the root cause can make the other stuff go away too (treating the ‘disease’ ie the trauma makes the ‘symptoms‘ ie the cross-sex identity, go away).

Lots of childhood labels no longer seem appropriate once the child has grown up, sometimes this is because it’s a developmental disorder and the person eventually catches up with the peer group (a kid that is slow to walk/talk/toilet train might well be wetting the bed at 11 but you need serious cognitive or physical impairment to still be wearing a nappy at 18) and sometimes because age indicates a more appropriate differential diagnosis (eg personality disorders and schizophrenia aren’t considered a legitimate diagnosis until 16 at the earliest). I don’t think your refusal of a potentially inappropriate childhood diagnosis necessarily indicates anything, perhaps whatever caused your symptoms has already been resolved?
If you chimp out when someone makes a joke about spergery in your vincinity you might find talking to a counsellor about residual anger at your parents to be useful, or some cognitive behaviour therapy, or maybe just pulling up your big-grown-up-britches and reminding yourself that the past is the past and you are a fully functioning adult beyond your parents control and without an unsuited label is enough?

Regarding AGP it’s worth remembering that AGP starts as a sexual fetish but can lead to genuine gender dysphoria - this 2017 article by Bailey and Blanchard is interesting https://4thwavenow.com/2017/12/07/gender-dysphoria-is-not-one-thing/ (scroll down for the AGP section) but I would say already out of date and that a combo of role play games/internet porn and uwu asspats has resulted in further subtypes of AGP and AGPs ‘coming out’ as trans at a much younger age (and the new FtM transitioning specifically to be a gay man stuff).

Blanchard and Bailey no longer routinely undertake clinical practice or academic research with trans people due to being the devil incarnate in the eyes of transactivists (see also doctors Richard Curtis, Russell Reid and Kenneth Zucker - the transborg devours all it’s favoured medical professionals eventually) so they aren’t keeping up with recent developments.

Anyway, here is professional British tranner Shon Faye shouting over Blanchard and slandering Zucker as a paedo on live telly.

This is why gender clinics struggle to recruit staff, frankly:

 
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