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If that's the case they should adopt this next. I think it's probably the most extreme manga content wise I've ever seen.

It's a fun dumb manga with edgy shit in it as opposed to something made to be edgy as possible a la DeadTube (which is shit). They should make an anime adaptation of that what with the child murder and first-person school shootings, that'd be fucking amazing to see the reaction to that shit.

(Side tangent but DT is weird because almost everything else the author has done is at least decently enjoyable and Tomodachi Game is pretty good)
 
But you assume that they want to get in on the market. They don't.

Actually, I don't assume they want to get in on the market and I never said they did.

If anything, I've been arguing the exact polar opposite of that. They want to keep that market out as much as possible so they don't have to compete against it or try to even entertain the idea of getting in on that market.

I said if Disney was smart, they'd try to get in on that market in some way as a backup plan in case the Marvel gravy train derails way too badly since most of the "evergreen" Marvel heroes are still tied up by contract issues post-Fox buyout or are under Sony's license. The only MCU mainstays that are evergreen would be Captain America, Hulk, and maybe Thor. You could also make a case for The Punisher* and Tomb of Dracula being evergreen or at least the potential to be so, but they're both way too "problematic" for the Marvel of the Disney era.

But they're not going to get in the market and don't want to, and that could backfire on them in a post-Coronavirus/post-MCU fad world. They definitely don't want to get into the anime market and are likely supporting efforts to keep it from getting more of a foothold in the United States and they probably don't want to make use of the "Problematic Marvel" titles from the Bronze Age and Dark Age eras. Plus, Tomb of Dracula's rights might be tied up with another company since you had the Blade movies from the late 90's and early 2000's.

*-Yes, I know the Netflix series was technically part of the MCU but the franchise was a lot less "woke" when that series premiered.
 
The first season of Darker Than Black is terrific... well, up until the finale, anyway. For the most part, 80% of season one is a series of vignettes, similar in style to Garden of Sinners. The overarching plot that served as the connective tissue between those short stories also wasn't bad... until the end when it seems like they panicked and went "oh shit, we still have so much to wrap up!" and proceeded to rush through a trillion plot points in the season one finale.

I didn't like season two at all. Everything I liked about season one was mostly gone and replaced with a lot of shit, going from a really interesting and unique series to fairly generic and forgettable.

DtB was BONES, wasn't it? That whole 80% of the series is solid then "Oh shit, we have to end this, panic" is pretty much their MO, short of RahXephon and Eureka7.
 
So I read that trashy edgelord manga and I have to wonder if emo-rance's rapey rape-revenge antics are gonna be the only thing the sjws piss their pants over.

See there's this bit where the demons and the humans are living in this city in harmony, and the feds royals decide that's inconvenient for the war and plunder grift and this town needs to go so MC's next amoral rape target tries to initiate a race riot and have the city racewar themselves to rubble, planting provocateurs on both sides and everything. But Rapey McRaperson outsmarts her by utilizing the first girl he raped and brainwashed to convince the populace (and even some of the soldiers iirc) to turn against the empire and not each other and their city. I'm not sure when these chapters were released, and it's clearly not 1 to 1, but having the MC get genuinely mad about businesses getting destroyed and race wars in the same arc sounds like commentary on current events to me. Or at least a general commentary on this sort of thing. It might not be either, but it's gonna get perceived that way. I wonder what the reaction will be from the usual suspects. Will it be "How dare you racist white supremacist gooks glamorize avoiding race riots with love and understanding"? Or will they see it as "whitey finally gets it and helps the black man kill the police".

Also I like how the MC desperately wants to be an amoral psycho pretending to be a hero, but he just ends up prioritizing hero shit half the time and his selfish plans just help innocent people and punish the evil anyways. It's like

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but with rape.
 
Kaifuku Jutsushi no Yarinaoshi is trash. It's a twisted version of Slayers meets Goblin Slayer. I don't see how it'll work as an anime because its just going to end up as another Interspecies Reviewers controversy.
 
Do you ever see Western entertainment shaking off and bouncing back from wokeness or do you think we're about to see a repeat of what happened to the American automotive industry in the 1980s?

I mean we know this shit is unpopular here which is why Japan is gaining more and more of a foothold in the American market.

I think it'll just happen until they fold. There will always be people who want to consoom and never get bored of capeshit. Like you're a dumb faggot if you're buying comics. They're a shadow of what they once were and only indie comics nowadays can hold a candle to manga because they're telling new and unique stories, not rehash after rehash after rehash. Yeah, I don't need to read the 10,000 version of Batman, thank you.

Its hard, as the left has always been fully entrenched in entertainment, but it was different because they were always pushing the envelope. Which is why American pop culture grew all over the world. Even though Hollywood has been super fucking liberal, it never really impinged on creativity as they were always fighting with the MPAA. Now, they just want to pump out safe, flavorless shit en masse. The progtard shit got the old boomers erect because they thought they could capture every demo known to man and fuck anyone who didn't like it.

Their arrogance basically has destroyed Star Trek, Star Wars, Ghostbusters, the Comic Industry, pretty much every fandom on Earth...so...*shrugs*

I think its just got to burn itself out. Progressivisim just has to eventually wear out its welcome, because everything is starting to splinter apart. More people are backing Kickstarter comics than buying them from Marvel or DC. Japanese and even European games are outselling American ones. Nobody cares about blockbusters anymore. Comics are basically a dead medium unless you go indie. They're basically stock paper advertisements for movies.

The progressiveness and wokeness is marked by self-righteousness. Which is why "Fuck the audience, do it this way" has been the pop culture mantra in the past couple of years. It doesn't matter how much they lose or how much they destroy, they're right and you're wrong. Not to mention they dislike capitalism anyway and really don't care about money. Only when the money runs out and they're forced to sell off properties or get laid off. Meanwhile the only thing they can do about how badly they are losing is to badmouth the competition, which hasn't ever worked. Especially with anime. And anime fans HATE censorship and will happily pirate away from American companies. Or buy blu-rays.

There are two ways, Western man: 1) The people in charge go hard in on their writers. No more political stories. No more joining Twitter mobs. Do not create propaganda, create new and innovative stories. This is less likely because it is harder. 2) Continue to bleed out in the street until the money runs dry and the properties are bought by another entertainment company. This entertainment company is woke too. Then that company will bleed out. This will continually repeat until everyone woke is fucking unemployed or in charge of nothing, or all major properties just end up in the hands of banks and holding companies and are basically leased out to whoever wants to make something because everyone went broke shitting on their audience.

I also think as a whole, people are universally fucking tired about hearing diversity and representation in their fantasy lives and being scolded for what they want. So they throw up their hands and go 'Fuck it, I'm watching anime. Everyone there in Japan is Japanese so I don't have to hear this shit.'

Honestly, ngl, I feel like this is more of a pushback against South Korea more so than the west. South Korean webtoons have been pushing along steadily for a while now, and they have the advantage of hitting digital harder. However, they're much more conservative when it comes to porn and violence (one of the reasons, iirc, that the artist of Dr. Stone, Boichi, moved to Japan). So I wouldn't be surprised to learn that by making edgier content, they're hoping to keep their control over the rest.

More of a dab on the west as an extra, imo.

I don't know how anyone reads webtoons. A single panel is fucking obnoxious and triggering. Also yeah, they're conservative as fuck.

Agreed, up to a point. I think Japanese anime companies didn't even consider the issue of the Western streaming services because the market was a lower priority and at least some of them were probably coasting on contracts from before "Current Year"

The "War on Anime" SJW autism was always there but didn't really start to ramp up until 2019 or so. The Weeb Wars began that year but more importantly the MCU finally hit its peak while the woke reboots from the different studios began to bomb even harder. COVID-19 has also added a lot more fuel to the trash fire and a lot of companies are panicking. I'd say Disney is the one that is most adamant against anime and manga getting a larger foothold in America since Marvel is their bread and butter and it's the only one of Iger's grand conquests that actually paid off in the long run. The MCU is primed for a downfall and the capeshit fad will die out with it, and Disney will no longer be the invincible titan it was in the 2010's.

At least Warner has Toonami and Crunchyroll while Sony has Funimation and Aniplex, Disney has nothing like that because they've never needed it all that much.

The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker did avoid becoming box office bombs but they both really underperformed and basically killed one of the biggest media franchises in history. The Fox buyout was massive and they've not fully digested all the debt from it.

Unless Disney decides to change course on anime and makes deals like their old Studio Ghibli distribution deal and tries to focus more on Kingdom Hearts as a franchise, they're the ones who are most likely to get hit the hardest if we get a second Anime Boom.

As for the studios in Japan, they're seeing a lot of new potential in these markets and will gladly follow the money. The only foreign censors I could see them bending the knee for would be China

The war on anime is old. I think its a lost cause, because it is alien to Western morality, Japan really, REALLY doesn't care what outsiders think and nearly all of anime is still basically made for the Japanese. Warner is actually looking to sell Crunchyroll to Sony because AT&T cost them a fuckton of money and now they're in the hole. Hope to God they don't.

Disney does NOT want anime because they make cartoons and it is basically poised to rape the MCU (The MCU I think is fucked, I looked at their 'plan' and its completely directionless). There's no real sense of build up anymore. Manga works better because it isn't endless. It does have an ending to it eventually. Maybe, MAYBE they'll get a sequel or a spinoff, but generally the series ends and you move on to something new.

It isn't Batman or Spiderman or the X-Men rehashed 500,000 times. There is only so much of that you can do, and comics have been doing it for their entire existence. Not to mention they basically told their core demo to eat shit and comic shops everywhere are dying.

The problem is Disney does not want to compromise on 'adult' anything. They always play it safe. Sure, you always know they'll produce flavorless gruel, but that's all it is. I don't think I'm interested in a single Disney property anymore.

Black Widow movie? She's fucking dead. Who cares what happens in the movie, because none of it matters. Pass.

Dr. Strange 2? Not a horror movie. More amusement park ride. Pass.

The Eternals? Cramming as much LGBTQQQ shit in as possible with boring as fuck characters. Pass.

Female Thor? I've seen what they do to female heroes, plus Tessa Thompson is fucking obnoxious. Pass.

Anime and Manga offer me so much more diverse shit. I can watch a turn my brain off series like Uzaki, Fan-service shit like Jet Girls, serious sci-fi thriller with Psychopass, Dark Fantasy with Goblin Slayer and Isekai with a lot. Disney offers the same, safe, bland, boring garbage over and over and over again.

And for China they'll just do what they do now, make an anime they might like and just throw black bars or bars of light over the naughty bits and call it a day.

I don't have much interest in that healer series getting an anime adaption, don't expect it to be much above the level of schlock that has a heavily censored broadcast release so people buy the Blu-rays. I'm very picky about my edge for the sake of edge series and I ended up getting bored and dropping this one. Just seems like another show that people claim is better than it actually is just because it'll offend people they don't like. I don't expect it to be a very memorable series, probably be better than Arifureta god awful adaption, but it'll just end up chucked into the obligatory mediocre seasonal isekai adaption. If it manages to escape either fate I'll be surprised, might at least been fun checking out the /a/ threads on it though it might be one of the seasonal shows that shitposters decide to infest.

There are a bunch of other isekai/non-isekai manga/LN I'd rather see adapted or given a second season but they rarely get picked.

What was bad about the Arifureta adaption?

So I read that trashy edgelord manga and I have to wonder if emo-rance's rapey rape-revenge antics are gonna be the only thing the sjws piss their pants over.

See there's this bit where the demons and the humans are living in this city in harmony, and the feds royals decide that's inconvenient for the war and plunder grift and this town needs to go so MC's next amoral rape target tries to initiate a race riot and have the city racewar themselves to rubble, planting provocateurs on both sides and everything. But Rapey McRaperson outsmarts her by utilizing the first girl he raped and brainwashed to convince the populace (and even some of the soldiers iirc) to turn against the empire and not each other and their city. I'm not sure when these chapters were released, and it's clearly not 1 to 1, but having the MC get genuinely mad about businesses getting destroyed and race wars in the same arc sounds like commentary on current events to me. Or at least a general commentary on this sort of thing. It might not be either, but it's gonna get perceived that way. I wonder what the reaction will be from the usual suspects. Will it be "How dare you racist white supremacist gooks glamorize avoiding race riots with love and understanding"? Or will they see it as "whitey finally gets it and helps the black man kill the police".

Also I like how the MC desperately wants to be an amoral psycho pretending to be a hero, but he just ends up prioritizing hero shit half the time and his selfish plans just help innocent people and punish the evil anyways. It's like

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but with rape.

Its supposed to be inadvertent hero shit but seriously, the guy doesn't need to go apeshit with his revenge when he reverses the world. I think it would have been a better story for him to pretend to do it, and slowly tear the party apart with inner turmoil, like being some mastermind, just causing the heroes to outright start killing each other at the end. That seems more fun to me and justifies his revenge. Of course it wouldn't have rape.

But its edgelord shit that tries to make you sympathize with him somehow. Like, "Manga, I know what you're doing, but he just had a woman raped and eaten to death. I mean, seriously bro." I don't see it as a commentary because its just so over the top on everything.

It also is irritating to me because nobody shows nipples, but he'll show graphic rape and torture.


Kaifuku Jutsushi no Yarinaoshi is trash. It's a twisted version of Slayers meets Goblin Slayer. I don't see how it'll work as an anime because its just going to end up as another Interspecies Reviewers controversy.

I mean I never said it was good. Its just really fucking terrible and I'm just astonished at how over the top everything is. Like, he rewound time. He erased his own past. You literally have nothing to revenge against. If they're horrible people, then wait for them to do horrible shit and murder them. I can't even get on board with the basic concept.
 
I mean I never said it was good. Its just really fucking terrible and I'm just astonished at how over the top everything is. Like, he rewound time. He erased his own past. You literally have nothing to revenge against. If they're horrible people, then wait for them to do horrible shit and murder them. I can't even get on board with the basic concept.
I’ll play devils advocate here and say he actually does wait to see if said people are still going to be complete asshats to him in the new timeline before he goes full tilt revenge on him. But this is a world where literally no one in the world is a good person save for like a couple people. And they don’t last long.
 
I’ll play devils advocate here and say he actually does wait to see if said people are still going to be complete asshats to him in the new timeline before he goes full tilt revenge on him. But this is a world where literally no one in the world is a good person save for like a couple people. And they don’t last long.

He's basically always looking for an excuse. Its always been his intent. What if he showed them just what he could do, would they treat him like shit? Probably not. Are they still bad people? Certainly.

When the Kingdom is going HAM on civilians, he sees one he likes murdered and goes "HAHA, NOW I CAN HAVE MY REVENGE". Its quite obvious he was just allowing it to happening and waiting for justification because he has a revenge fetish. I'm pretty sure if a homeless girl stole his porkchop he'd go "I WANT REVENGE" and shove a wooden spike up her ass.

And he's not just doing outright murder as revenge, which is, what you would normally do. He's torturing them, raping them and then murdering them. Yeah the guy got treated like shit, but he reversed it so really, it never happened and what he's doing is horrifically worse.

Yeah, nearly everyone in the manga is terrible but for basically no reason. The manga is rather light in the story department and heavy in the edge department.
 
Its supposed to be inadvertent hero shit but seriously, the guy doesn't need to go apeshit with his revenge when he reverses the world. I think it would have been a better story for him to pretend to do it, and slowly tear the party apart with inner turmoil, like being some mastermind, just causing the heroes to outright start killing each other at the end. That seems more fun to me and justifies his revenge. Of course it wouldn't have rape..
I don't think the author is smart enough to write a story like that.

It also is irritating to me because nobody shows nipples, but he'll show graphic rape and torture.
The nipple thing is consistent across anime and a lot of manga at this point and I have no idea why. The shitty Berserk anime did that too. Reminds me of that time Britain wouldn't let a scene of a room filled with blood and corpses fly because you could see a butt so they put some blood over the buttcrack and it was okay.

I’ll play devils advocate here and say he actually does wait to see if said people are still going to be complete asshats to him in the new timeline before he goes full tilt revenge on him. But this is a world where literally no one in the world is a good person save for like a couple people. And they don’t last long.
I do like that he considers that (though I forgot about what Secret Asshole said about him letting things get bad so he could have a reason for revenge), but I don't think it establishes them as evil very well. we get a scene or two of them doing something bad and next time we see them BAM fight then horrible deathrape. Which is kinda hard to justify to the reader no matter who it is. He tried to make sword lesbian hateable but I just couldn't give a damn. They feel more like bosses in an simple early jrpg (surprise surprise) except with rape. It kinda reminds me of how nonsensical Rapeman is, except Rapeman is dumber. Which also somehow got an anime. I highly recommend this fanmade dub.


and apparently the manga is translated too. the only way it could be.

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Like, he rewound time. He erased his own past. You literally have nothing to revenge against. If they're horrible people, then wait for them to do horrible shit and murder them

I always found it really funny how be rewinds time, but instead of figuring out a way to get his powers while not having to go through everything over again, he lets himself become a drug addict and raped over again. Like shit nigga, what are you doing???
 
What was bad about the Arifureta adaption?
The author got high on his own farts, was dissatisfied with the White Fox adaptation, and was so generally insufferable that it got tossed to some no-name studio to reanimate. Reanimate as in 'create a shambling corpse', because it was a hilarious 90s CGI dumpster fire.
 
He's basically always looking for an excuse. Its always been his intent. What if he showed them just what he could do, would they treat him like shit? Probably not. Are they still bad people? Certainly.

When the Kingdom is going HAM on civilians, he sees one he likes murdered and goes "HAHA, NOW I CAN HAVE MY REVENGE". Its quite obvious he was just allowing it to happening and waiting for justification because he has a revenge fetish. I'm pretty sure if a homeless girl stole his porkchop he'd go "I WANT REVENGE" and shove a wooden spike up her ass.

And he's not just doing outright murder as revenge, which is, what you would normally do. He's torturing them, raping them and then murdering them. Yeah the guy got treated like shit, but he reversed it so really, it never happened and what he's doing is horrifically worse.

Yeah, nearly everyone in the manga is terrible but for basically no reason. The manga is rather light in the story department and heavy in the edge department.
Oh, I fully agree. I just meant he’s not revenging without a reason, even though he’s actively trying to get it.

Manga is edge trash, but I kinda enjoy just how trash it is, if that makes sense.
 
The author got high on his own farts, was dissatisfied with the White Fox adaptation, and was so generally insufferable that it got tossed to some no-name studio to reanimate. Reanimate as in 'create a shambling corpse', because it was a hilarious 90s CGI dumpster fire.

Are you fucking kidding me? The author is a faggot. White Fox is amazing. No wonder there was so much bad CG compared with the artwork. Mystery solved.

Oh, I fully agree. I just meant he’s not revenging without a reason, even though he’s actively trying to get it.

Manga is edge trash, but I kinda enjoy just how trash it is, if that makes sense.

I knew you were playing Devil's advocate, I just like debating. Well, its called a guilty pleasure. We all have them. I enjoy it for how idiotic it is and contradictory and just how out of proportion his revenge actually is, it isn't shocking its funny. I also find how tonally all OVER the place is. Like in one scene, there's a joke that he's putting on make-up to transform himself to lure the Lesbian out. The next, he has rape zombies who eat her alive. It is all over the place, so you can't really take it seriously at all.

The characters are just tropes, really and extremely simplified. And honestly, explicit sort of trashy stuff and shitting all over it is a guilty pleasure of mine.

I always found it really funny how be rewinds time, but instead of figuring out a way to get his powers while not having to go through everything over again, he lets himself become a drug addict and raped over again. Like shit nigga, what are you doing???

Yeah, lol. Its seriously a fetish for him. He wants to be abused so he can get revenge. Not, "You know what, I'm going to be so powerful, I'm gonna rule this shit" Or "The war with the demons is a lie. I'm going full Punisher on these assholes".

It is an interesting concept, like this guy getting abused and he rewinds time and finds out his healing powers are basically the fucking power of time itself. Steal memories, experiences, skills....like holy shit. I know it portrays him as 14, but like....that's what you're doing? You're really boring and have a revenge fetish, you creepy healing faggot.
 
Are you fucking kidding me? The author is a faggot. White Fox is amazing. No wonder there was so much bad CG compared with the artwork. Mystery solved.



I knew you were playing Devil's advocate, I just like debating. Well, its called a guilty pleasure. We all have them. I enjoy it for how idiotic it is and contradictory and just how out of proportion his revenge actually is, it isn't shocking its funny. I also find how tonally all OVER the place is. Like in one scene, there's a joke that he's putting on make-up to transform himself to lure the Lesbian out. The next, he has rape zombies who eat her alive. It is all over the place, so you can't really take it seriously at all.

The characters are just tropes, really and extremely simplified. And honestly, explicit sort of trashy stuff and shitting all over it is a guilty pleasure of mine.



Yeah, lol. Its seriously a fetish for him. He wants to be abused so he can get revenge. Not, "You know what, I'm going to be so powerful, I'm gonna rule this shit" Or "The war with the demons is a lie. I'm going full Punisher on these assholes".

It is an interesting concept, like this guy getting abused and he rewinds time and finds out his healing powers are basically the fucking power of time itself. Steal memories, experiences, skills....like holy shit. I know it portrays him as 14, but like....that's what you're doing? You're really boring and have a revenge fetish, you creepy healing faggot.
I do kinda enjoy a story where super over-the-top revenge happens to people and I can think “yeah, they deserved that.” Like you said, it’s just so silly.

Too bad he didn’t use that time healing power stuff to fix the trauma in his own mind. Maybe then he’d be less revenge boner.
 
Anime and Manga offer me so much more diverse shit. I can watch a turn my brain off series like Uzaki, Fan-service shit like Jet Girls, serious sci-fi thriller with Psychopass, Dark Fantasy with Goblin Slayer and Isekai with a lot. Disney offers the same, safe, bland, boring garbage over and over and over again.
This is why I still watch anime today when I get the time or inclination. There is enough variation that it can be watchable at any age. Western cartoons/animation...is just really done. It's not fun, the comedy ones like Simpsons and FG have well overstayed their welcome, the rest is dogshit cal-arts style of drawing mixed with bullshit leftwing politics. The only western animation I enjoyed recently was fucking capeshit - Justice League Dark: Apokolips War. I want something else please.

Plus, anime seems to have this ability to magically piss all the right people off. Whether it's edgelord content containing rape, or a 20 year old shortstack that shows an unrealistic body type, people lose their shit over these Japanese cartoons. Its great.
 
This is why I still watch anime today when I get the time or inclination. There is enough variation that it can be watchable at any age. Western cartoons/animation...is just really done. It's not fun, the comedy ones like Simpsons and FG have well overstayed their welcome, the rest is dogshit cal-arts style of drawing mixed with bullshit leftwing politics. The only western animation I enjoyed recently was fucking capeshit - Justice League Dark: Apokolips War. I want something else please.

Plus, anime seems to have this ability to magically piss all the right people off. Whether it's edgelord content containing rape, or a 20 year old shortstack that shows an unrealistic body type, people lose their shit over these Japanese cartoons. Its great.
I know Apokolips is bad, but is it THAT bad?
 
I know Apokolips is bad, but is it THAT bad?
From what I’ve seen, people either hate how dark it was(which is kinda silly, because you should be aware of what it was), or they hate the ending(Flash does the cosmic reset button again).
 
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