U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

[ZMOT]

But the problem with that is that if you try to post any genocide/race war bait on /pol/ it will turn into a black people hate thread 99% of the time, and then you get to scroll through assloads of videos of blacks shooting and necklacing each other, even if the race(s) in the original post had nothing to do with black people.

ZMOT just needs to add "don't lick Hillary's/Democrats' taints and don't shit all over Midwest working shlubs" and they can probably avoid that fate.

the idea isn't necessarily a big campaign to short some libtards fuses (although that would be hilarious), it's more of a thing for your more direct social circle - assuming that you don't really give a shit that they might see you as a raving lunatic, but at this point this might a plus.

basically whenever someone thinks he's smart being the wokest of them all just scream BLACK LIVES MATTER!!!!! in their face. repeatedly. shut them down whenever they try to open their mouth. doesn't even have to be clever or a counterargument, simply BLACK LIVES MATTER!!!! over and over the same way we had to read that shit for months everywhere.
out-tard the tards.
because what they gonna do? you're obviously not a nazi, so they can't use that (meaningless) label. ignoring you means they ignore the struggle of black lives. and if they really ghost you after you annoyed them too much at least you didn't waste too much energy trying to debate it and get ignored as some kind of counterargument.

granted it's not the most elaborate scheme, but we're talking about people who think toddlerspeak with poop/pee references are intellectual gold. woke "stop repeating everything I say" could have quite interesting results, they're stuck on the level of 6 year olds already.

One of the major problems with teaching history is just how much there is to teach and so little time to teach it when confined to semester and class time limits. Given that you are also forced to allot time to whatever topics those in charge of writing the history curriculum deem required, in more generalized history courses it's usually way too much to give any topic proper depth. Topics are often skimmed and proper context is lost, such as what factors created an outbreak of war, in favor of: "These countries went to war, Side A is Good while Side B is Bad, here are a couple big fights and some tragedies committed by Side B, Side A beat Side B."

you wouldn't need to become an expert about it, half the shit you learn about ww2 is pointless stuff you never gonna use later and you forget a good chunk of it anyway. all the times they repeat the same shit over and over to drive the point home the nazis were bad, might as well talk about something else that's just worth knowing on principle, especially since there were plenty of bad people in human history doing bad shit besides the nazis. and while you're at it might as well talk about the good ones and their accomplishments.
even easier when other courses complement it, that third wave experiment gets discussed at some point etc.

 

[billydero]

112175969_3283241418567674_4352408806847561013_n.mp4

I’d say “don’t go jumping the cops” but really, don’t jump anybody If you aren’t ready for the consequences. And these people weren’t.

This is pretty funny, watching the soyboys and girls get all big pants only to get slapped down. The fat chick going over the bike rack or whatever that loop is, is hilarious.

What do they actually expect to happen, the cops to run off?

 

[Simpadoo]

But the problem with that is that if you try to post any genocide/race war bait on /pol/ it will turn into a black people hate thread 99% of the time, and then you get to scroll through assloads of videos of blacks shooting and necklacing each other, even if the race(s) in the original post had nothing to do with black people.

That’s a problem?

 

[Particle Bored]

Granted, but no one that used the term 'corporatism' during that period referred to corporations - corporatism has never referred to corporations; it's an established socioeconomic system that's applicable to a number of ideologies that refers to, as said, governmental control and setup by likeminded groups.

Fair enough, though one can argue that mega-banks/corps would constitute the "likeminded groups," and satisfy both the technical definition and a modern ignorant colloquial definition. I'll admit that while at one time I did try to verify the source of the quote, I never bothered looking up a definition of "corporatism," as it seemed self-evident (and admittedly even that is a biased inference, as "corporate/corporation" is hardly exclusive to giant/transnational business structures, or even exclusively to business structures in general).

The quote you are referring to belongs to Giovanni Gentile, the actual author of the Doctrine of Fascism - Mussolini was not the actual author of the book, and numerous Gentile quotes are misattributed to Mussolini.

Do you have a source for this? From what I've seen the quote cannot actually be traced to any specific source, though I'm aware the "alleged" (and I believe disproven) source I've seen referenced (Enciclopedia Italiana) was assisted/edited/ghostwritten by Gentile.

 

[Forgetful Gynn]

Demographics aren't destiny, despite what it looks like (well, not necessarily at least), because it assumes that politics are static. Democrats of 20 years ago weren't trying to push identity politics to extreme ends, muh reparations, etc.

30 years ago Clinton/Gore was sending out campaign buttons with the much-maligned Confederate battle flag out and no one gave a shit.

As long as democrats promise free money and open borders they will get more immigrants who support them regardless of whatever other crazy shit the dems put in. Only if republicans promise everything but the crazy shit democrats promise will the imports vote otherwise. Demographic voting choices are a fixed constant. That's literally the only reason why this "diversity" shit is pushed. They know it secures them electoral monopoly.

This is virtually my exact experience too. I remember that he had to watch Escape from Sobibor and the opening beach scene from Saving Private Ryan. We had a lot of Holocaust talk and read The Diary of Anne Frank. Some names like Hitler, Mussolini, Churchill and Stalin were brought up but nothing was really in depth about anyone. We actually did watch the Alec Baldwin movie Nuremburg and did a mock trial where half of us had to be the defendants and the other half were the prosecutors which was kind of cool albeit it sort of shallow. WW1 was essentially just being told the name 'Franz Ferdinand' and about the only other thing covered was Vimy Ridge (because Canada).

The only other things we even covered in History classes if I recall correctly had to do with the fur trade (which no one cared about because it's mind numbing how boring of a topic it is) residential schools, the Avrow Arrow and the Komagata Maru.

It was sometime in college when I randomly stumbled upon the existence of the Holodomor, and the shock that I had never heard about such a massive genocide at all, despite growing up watching the history channel and having an interest in history, started to make me wonder what else I hadn't been told.

A lot, it turns out.

 

[Evo]

Fair enough, though one can argue that mega-banks/corps would constitute the "likeminded groups," and satisfy both the technical definition and a modern ignorant colloquial definition. I'll admit that while at one time I did try to verify the source of the quote, I never bothered looking up a definition of "corporatism," as it seemed self-evident (and admittedly even that is a biased inference, as "corporate/corporation" is hardly exclusive to giant/transnational business structures, or even exclusively to business structures in general).


Do you have a source for this? From what I've seen the quote cannot actually be traced to any specific source, though I'm aware the "alleged" (and I believe disproven) source I've seen referenced (Enciclopedia Italiana) was assisted/edited/ghostwritten by Gentile.

Oh, on that basis I'll completely agree with you - although I advocate corporatism I do so from a platform of awareness that corporatism is a vague socioeconomic policy, easily applicable to numerous ideologies; a group of trannies ruling America and forcing all women to have fucking pink mohawks and freebleed is essentially corporatism in some sense, just as @teriyakiburns said; it's more-so closer to look at the original fascist view of corporatism as based on the concept of "organic society" in-so-much that society should be viewed as a superorganism with requirements and needed immunities, therefore totalitarianism seemed necessary - still does, to me.

In any case, the rest - Gentile edited the 1932 Encyclopedia originally written by Mussolini to adjust for actual ideological merit; Mussolini had little actual ideological merit or substance and was better off with oratory and grand-standing conceptualizations like his weird quasi-Roman vision and thus it's generally agreed that a lot of the ideologically-bent passages in the Encyclopedia past that ghost-edit all belonged to Gentile, although there's no solid guarantee - it could ultimately be just as likely Mussolini himself said it, but it's given that the vast majority of the ideological passages contained in the Italian Encyclopedia are reasonably attributable to Gentile and his desire to insert ideological definition into everything.

 

[stupidpieceofshit]

To this day I don't know what WWI was about. Franz Ferdinand died, there were trenches, Germany had pointy helmets, ???, the end. And I'm pretty sure I learned all three of those points outside of school. I honestly might have never even had a WWI class. I wasn't a good student, but I definitely remembering learning about Korea and Vietnam and whatever, but never WWI.

And like everyone else says, my public school telling of WW2 was 90% holocaust, 10% nukes. I'm old enough that the narrative was War Bad rather than Whitey Bad, but the curriculum is the exact same.

Shit post edition TLDR of the cause of WW1
Basically there was a ton of homo sexual tension between the European powers, and the assassination of Franz Ferdinand was the spark in that keg of gun powder.

WW1 and WW2 teaches us that Austrians should never be placed in charge of a nation.

 

[Forgetful Gynn]

Shit post edition TLDR of the cause of WW1
Basically there was a ton of homo sexual tension between the European powers, and the assassination of Franz Ferdinand was the spark in that keg of gun powder.

WW1 and WW2 teaches us that Austrians should never be placed in charge of a nation.

That and the Berlin-Baghdad railroad. Mostly the railroad, in my opinion.

 

[DumbDude42]

To this day I don't know what WWI was about. Franz Ferdinand died, there were trenches, Germany had pointy helmets, ???, the end.

here's the quick rundown on how it started, politically:

Spoiler

>bosnia was part of the austrian empire. local serb nationalists resented this foreign rule and aspired to have the territory become part of serbia instead
>bosnian serb nationalists assassinate the austrian heir to the throne, archduke franz ferdinand, during a visit to bosnia
>austria uses this assassination as a pretext to force a war with serbia
>russia, seeing itself as the protector of orthodox serbia, steps in and declares war on austria
>germany, being closely allied with austria, now steps in on austrias side and declares war on russia
>but germany is afraid of france exploiting the situation to attack germany from the west while the german armies are deployed in the east
>so germany asks france to declare neutrality and stay out of the war, but france refuses to make a commitment like that
>now germany declares war on france and starts deploying troops both in the east against russia and in the west against france, simultaneously
>the british empire now steps in, citing its alliance with france, and declares war on germany
>the ottoman empire, seeing an opportunity to win back some of its territories that were previously conquered by the british and french in north africa, joins the war on the german/austrian side

 

[Andre Richardson]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=qd8-SK_naYU
A white guy yelled at Stella "Demon Semon" Immanuel for not being black enough and then called himself Jesus Christ

About that guy, he’s a professional agitator. He even appeared in one of Steven Crowder’s “Change my mind” videos.

 

[Evo]

>no mention of Unit 731, American POWs used as slave labor, or the fact that Japan is, to this day, more racist and xenophobic than America has ever been.

Unit 731 was fucking wild, conspiracy-level wild, the sort of shit that one looks at in the realm of conspiracies in regards to governmental accusation today were fairly common policy in regards to Unit 731 and how they conducted their research; no amount of American public education delves into ideological matters because you don't want the kids too fucking smart, then you end up with problems.

 

[Meat Target]

Unit 731 was fucking wild, conspiracy-level wild, the sort of shit that one looks at in the realm of conspiracies in regards to governmental accusation today were fairly common policy in regards to Unit 731 and how they conducted their research; no amount of American public education delves into ideological matters because you don't want the kids too fucking smart, then you end up with problems.

Am I a bad person for laughing at this?

 

[Evo]

Am I a bad person for laughing at this?
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LOL, no, considering I fucking laughed at the little contest that the two IJA soldiers had in (I believe) Nanking where the two of them competed to see which of them could kill 100 chinks with a sword first - the victor was paraded in a fucking newspaper at the homefront; that battlefield was so psychotic and dystopic it's unbelievable.

 

[Green Man]

I almost forgot to mention something about WWII curriculum:
>America bad for Japanese internment camps
>but FDR good because muh gibs and bash the fash
>muh wamyn in factories were the real heroes
>no mention of Unit 731, American POWs used as slave labor, or the fact that Japan is, to this day, more racist and xenophobic than America has ever been.

Absolutely no mention of any of the Japanese atrocities, all it was for me was: "Japan bad, but America WORSE! Internment camps, nukes, we treated POWs bad too!"
Nothing at all about the Rape of Nanking, the Bataan Death March, Unit 731, Japanese soldiers beheading and prying fingernails of Australian/American POWs, the massive civilian casualties at Okinawa, etc.
The rebuttal for all of this is of course: "Well America never treated POWs very nice either!"
What, because we didn't provide them with goose down pillows and they had to eat Spam instead of caviar? If I'd lived during the 1940s and fought for the Axis and you gave me an option between being captured by Americans or the Japanese, I'd be trying to find some GIs to turn myself in.

Also, nothing mentioned of some of the very valid reasons why the nuclear bombs were justified. If for whatever reason the nuke didn't exist at that point, one of the only ways to stop Japan would have been a massive campaign of firebombing cities [which did happen to an extent as we know] or a total amphibious invasion of the Japanese mainland. I'm sure I don't need to tell anyone why that would have been terrible, and much worse than the result of those two bombings. One can argue about the ethics of nuclear proliferation until the cows come home, but the fact remains that it was the best option to end the Pacific War, and the reasons for this fact you will hardly hear about in school because nuanced education is dead.

Speaking of internment camps, how many Japanese Americans are resentful of that 80 some years later? Not too many, I'd wager, or at least I don't hear about it. You can't say the same for the Jews, or God forbid, black Americans who are still enraged over shit that happened 160 years ago or more. Mostly because I don't believe Japanese Americans [or Asian Americans in general for that matter] are interested in being victims and beating the war drum over old shit.

Likewise, Vietnam was basically skimmed over. Given that I went to school a somewhat long time ago in a shitty district, our textbooks stopped at the Gulf War, which was also skimmed over. Notably absent as well was the Korean War. I have met grown ass adults who graduated high school that knew the Korean War happened, but couldn't tell you WHEN it happened. One guy thought it started in 1972.

It was far more important to educators that we be beaten over the head repeatedly with the Holocaust and the Confederacy rather than giving anyone a robust, well-rounded education in history.

 

[Particle Bored]

Oh, on that basis I'll completely agree with you - although I advocate corporatism I do so from a platform of awareness that corporatism is a vague socioeconomic policy, easily applicable to numerous ideologies; a group of trannies ruling America and forcing all women to have fucking pink mohawks and freebleed is essentially corporatism in some sense, just as @teriyakiburns said; it's more-so closer to look at the original fascist view of corporatism as based on the concept of "organic society" in-so-much that society should be viewed as a superorganism with requirements and needed immunities, therefore totalitarianism seemed necessary - still does, to me.

In any case, the rest - Gentile edited the 1932 Encyclopedia originally written by Mussolini to adjust for actual ideological merit; Mussolini had little actual ideological merit or substance and was better off with oratory and grand-standing conceptualizations like his weird quasi-Roman vision and thus it's generally agreed that a lot of the ideologically-bent passages in the Encyclopedia past that ghost-edit all belonged to Gentile, although there's no solid guarantee - it could ultimately be just as likely Mussolini himself said it, but it's given that the vast majority of the ideological passages contained in the Italian Encyclopedia are reasonably attributable to Gentile and his desire to insert ideological definition into everything.

In light of all this, excluding the "Mussolini quote," I'm curious as to your degree of agreement with the post of mine which started our exchange, and also curious as to what political term you may consider appropriate for the internationalist/banker/transnational-corp class.

Spoiler

Don't say "Jews."

 

[Forgetful Gynn]

>no mention of Unit 731, American POWs used as slave labor, or the fact that Japan is, to this day, more racist and xenophobic than America has ever been.

That's a bit of an overstatement. Japan isn't racist, they're nationalist. "Racism" is irrational hatred, is it not?

Also:

Speaking of internment camps, how many Japanese Americans are resentful of that 80 some years later?

Not many, because the japanese aren't the kind of shitty people to use it for personal gain for the rest of time.
As for the rest, we raped them at least as much as they raped others, and then we dropped nukes on them.

Soon after the US Marines landed, all the women of a village on Motobu Peninsula fell into the hands of US soldiers. At the time, there were only women, children and old people in the village, as all the young men had been mobilized for the war. Soon after landing, the Marines "mopped up" the entire village, but found no signs of Japanese forces. Taking advantage of the situation, they started "hunting for women" in broad daylight and those who were hiding in the village or nearby air raid shelters were dragged out one after another.

According to interviews carried out by The New York Times and published by them in 2000, multiple elderly people from an Okinawan village confessed that after the United States had won the Battle of Okinawa three armed marines kept coming to the village every week to force the villagers to gather all the local women, who were then carried off into the hills and raped. The article goes deeper into the matter and claims that the villagers' tale - true or not - is part of a 'dark, long-kept secret' the unraveling of which 'refocused attention on what historians say is one of the most widely ignored crimes of the war': "the widespread rape of Okinawan women by American servicemen". Although Japanese reports of rape were largely ignored at the time, academic estimates have been that as many as 10,000 Okinawan women may have been raped. It has been claimed that the rape was so prevalent that most Okinawans over age 65 around the year 2000 either knew or had heard of a woman who was raped in the aftermath of the war. Military officials denied the mass rapings, and all surviving veterans refused The New York Times' request for an interview.

 

[Meat Target]

LOL, no, considering I fucking laughed at the little contest that the two IJA soldiers had in (I believe) Nanking where the two of them competed to see which of them could kill 100 chinks with a sword first - the victor was paraded in a fucking newspaper at the homefront; that battlefield was so psychotic and dystopic it's unbelievable.

Okay, now this is some North Korea-tier cartoonish villainy:

Absolutely no mention of any of the Japanese atrocities, all it was for me was: "Japan bad, but America WORSE! Internment camps, nukes, we treated POWs bad too!"
Nothing at all about the Rape of Nanking, the Bataan Death March, Unit 731, Japanese soldiers beheading and prying fingernails of Australian/American POWs, the massive civilian casualties at Okinawa, etc.
The rebuttal for all of this is of course: "Well America never treated POWs very nice either!"
What, because we didn't provide them with goose down pillows and they had to eat Spam instead of caviar? If I'd lived during the 1940s and fought for the Axis and you gave me an option between being captured by Americans or the Japanese, I'd be trying to find some GIs to turn myself in.

Also, nothing mentioned of some of the very valid reasons why the nuclear bombs were justified. If for whatever reason the nuke didn't exist at that point, one of the only ways to stop Japan would have been a massive campaign of firebombing cities [which did happen to an extent as we know] or a total amphibious invasion of the Japanese mainland. I'm sure I don't need to tell anyone why that would have been terrible, and much worse than the result of those two bombings. One can argue about the ethics of nuclear proliferation until the cows come home, but the fact remains that it was the best option to end the Pacific War, and the reasons for this fact you will hardly hear about in school because nuanced education is dead.

Speaking of internment camps, how many Japanese Americans are resentful of that 80 some years later? Not too many, I'd wager, or at least I don't hear about it. You can't say the same for the Jews, or God forbid, black Americans who are still enraged over shit that happened 160 years ago or more. Mostly because I don't believe Japanese Americans [or Asian Americans in general for that matter] aren't interested in being victims and beating the war drum over old shit.

Likewise, Vietnam was basically skimmed over. Given that I went to school a somewhat long time ago in a shitty district, our textbooks stopped at the Gulf War, which was also skimmed over. Notably absent as well was the Korean War. I have met grown ass adults who graduated high school that knew the Korean War happened, but couldn't tell you WHEN it happened. One guy thought it started in 1972.

It was far more important to educators that we be beaten over the head repeatedly with the Holocaust and the Confederacy rather than giving anyone a robust, well-rounded education in history.

We talked about 'Nam but were also told that the hippies were heroes for protesting against the war.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

this isn't new or abnormal. commies have always been led by exactly this type of person (intellectuals, academics, authors/publishers, etc)
hell, marx himself was what would today be called a NEET who made a living by leeching off his wealthy friend engels while spending his time on politisperging and writing manifestos

It's shit like that that made me sympathetic the overthrown Ancien Régimes; Burghers need to be put into their place by someone because otherwise you get Communist Vanguards and New Rich that have been sperging out for over 200 years at this point.

 

[Xarpho]

The rebuttal for all of this is of course: "Well America never treated POWs very nice either!"
What, because we didn't provide them with goose down pillows and they had to eat Spam instead of caviar? If I'd lived during the 1940s and fought for the Axis and you gave me an option between being captured by Americans or the Japanese, I'd be trying to find some GIs to turn myself in.

Yeah, no kidding. American POW camps for foreign combatants wasn't all that bad.

A cement-lined pond that surrounded a flower garden and a moated miniature castle with clay figurines are among the decorative remains of a World War II prisoner-of-war camp recently excavated near Hearne, Texas. As many as 4,800 soldiers of Germany's Afrika Corps, divided into pro- and anti-Nazi groups, were housed here from 1943 to 1945. The site was cleared when the army closed the camp after the war. Michael Waters of Texas A&M University's department of anthropology has also found concrete slabs that supported the mess hall, storerooms, and lavatories, in addition to a concrete-lined brick fountain along the walkway to the mess hall.


In 1942 the citizens of Hearne petitioned the federal government to build the camp, believing that the prisoners could work on local cotton, onion, and peanut farms while the town's regular fieldhands went off to war. Only about 20 percent of the prison population agreed to work, the rest being preoccupied with softball and soccer games, language classes, reading, and the architectural embellishment of the facility, according to camp records. Among the prisoners were members of a German military orchestra captured in Tunisia who gave concerts to locals. Some residents interviewed by Waters and his graduate students felt that the POWs were treated too well, referring to the camp as the "Fritz Ritz." Others remember sharing rationed sweets and supplies with the young men, recognizing that they were frightened and far from home, just as American soldiers were.

 

[Unassuming Local Guy]

Speaking of internment camps, how many Japanese Americans are resentful of that 80 some years later?

Exactly one, and his name is George Takei. He won't shut the fuck up about it. Like, he literally never stops talking about those camps. I'm beginning to suspect he's a robot whose creator stopped performing maintenance on him decades ago so he's stuck in a perpetual logic loop.

To check, I just googled his name and the first thing I found was an article, posted 8 days ago, about him doing a voice for a video game. Except the article is actually about how voice acting was the only way a poor oppressed Japanese boy could catch a break in the white devil's cursed lands, complete with stories of men in towers pointing machine guns at him while he went to the bathroom. I had no idea that article existed until halfway through writing a post about what an obsessive lunatic he is, but it certainly confirmed my suspicions. Again.