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See, I definitely get where you're coming from with that, but I do think ftms and non-binary women should be included in women's spaces, because they're female. I feel like it's extremely hypocritical to pick and choose when you're going to "respect gender identity". If you respect people's gender identity enough to bar trans-identified women from women's spaces, then by that same logic you should respect people's gender identity enough to allow trans-identified men in women's spaces. Otherwise it's clear that you're just being spiteful towards women who try to identify out of their womanhood, which isn't a good basis for political or ideological beliefs.
That said, I completely get the frustration and irritation at these women who insist on staying in women's spaces, women's colleges, etc. while claiming not to be women. It's infuriating. But we can't ban them without becoming hypocrites.
Mind you, they should be banned from spaces overtaken by trans activists, because that is the logic they use, and they're blatant hypocrites for not sticking to it. But that's a flaw in their position and we should make sure to point it out as often and loudly as possible.
I've read and spoken (online) to a lot of detransitioned women, and it's incredibly difficult to live as a detransitioned woman even if you are a lesbian. Many suffer from incredible grief and regret over what they've done to their bodies. Many struggle to find and form healthy relationships. It shouldn't be downplayed just because "some lesbians are into butch girls"... it really isn't the same thing to date a butch lesbian woman as it is to date a woman who has had a double mastectomy and taken testosterone for years.
But you are right that there is going to be hell to pay, societally, when the ROGD-effected girls and women start detransitioning, regardless of their sexuality. And they will, and there are going to be thousands of them. Sterilized women with lifelong health issues, butchered bodies, and absolutely zero relationship prospects. And the trans movement is squarely to blame for all of it.
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Chase Strangio and her ilk can suck a rusty tailpipe as far as I’m concerned. You don’t want to be women? You actively work against women’s rights? Fine, the bar’s closed.
Actions have consequences. These are the consequences of opting out of being female: you are no longer welcome to female spaces. You can no longer receive female-centered advocacy. Why? Because what inevitably happens is once you let them in, they take over these female spaces and discussions. They start policing language. They start whining that menstruation isn’t just a female issue. They start actively campaigning to remove the rights of women and girls.
Fuck that.
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Yup that's the one. I'm on my cell and was too lazy to look it up. Also she is a interesting case because I think she has stated that her transition was heavily supported by her lesbian partner. Her partner from a conservative family. She was one of the first examples that made me wonder if trooning out was indeed a type of conversion therapy.
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FtMs are fucking crazy but the reason they don’t grind my gears as much as MtFs is that the latter are all 6”5” hulks who threaten to rape and kill people who disagree. Whereas most FtMs are manlets who aren’t gonna be able to knock out a man so it’s more pathetic than threatening. And men will NEVER allow FtMs to be accepted the way weak-willed women accept MtFs.
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Yeah, it's not gonna be pretty. You get the occasional 30+ fakeboi, but the vast majority of them are teenagers or very early 20's- not exactly an age group known for making great decisions. Most doctors will (rightfully, imo) refuse to perform sterilization procedures on childless women below a certain age because they know most of them will change their minds in their late 20's/early 30's, but chopping off a teenager's tits and destroying her sex organs with roids because she said she's uncomfortable with wearing skirts is totally fine.
Bitching about the evil cis gays not giving them the dick is just the tip of the iceberg. Once these girls start approaching 30 and they realize their chances of finding a husband or being a mother got blown to smithereens, things are going to get really ugly.
I actually know a fujoshi TIF who's almost 30, and it's pretty obvious the regret is really starting to hit her. She's been transitioning for around seven years and loses more enthusiasm for "becoming her true self" the more her body changes- first she was depressed that her voice was permanently fucked up (she was part of the chorus in HS and loved it), then came the constant bitching over how hard it was to date while trans when she couldn't cope with gay men not being into her even when straight men started to lose interest, and in the past year she's really taken to policing "genital preferences" and complains about how crippling her dysphoria is nearly every day now that she's so hideous even the handful of straight guys degenerate enough to pump 'n dump her in years past aren't interested anymore. Before becoming a troon she was a cute, thin tomboy with plenty of friends and a boyfriend whenever she wanted one, now she's an obese, balding, pimply-faced neckbeard with mangled tits and no real friends. Sometimes the mask will slip and she'll admit she misses the time "when [she] was a girl". She's a BPD disaster and terrible human being in general, but it's hard to not pity her.
All the other women in her life are hitting normal adult milestones like finding a spouse, getting an advanced degree, buying a house/apartment, having kids, etc while she's stuck in her parent's house and in a loveless, probably sexless open relationship with another fat chick LARPing as a man (I'm certain their relationship is "open" in name only, and solely in case one/both finally manage to snag a gay man). Her parents are terrified of questioning what she does after years of her suicide baiting, all her friends are troons or TRAs since she cut everyone else out, and she's employed in the fine arts so everyone she works with is another TIF or a different kind of female genderspecial, so I don't think she could question the trans narrative now even if she wanted to without losing her livelihood. There's no way out for her.
She had a total breakdown right around when her little sister had a baby, and while that could just be regular cluster B shit I'm convinced it was because she realized she totally destroyed her chances of being a normal, happy straight woman.
All the other women in her life are hitting normal adult milestones like finding a spouse, getting an advanced degree, buying a house/apartment, having kids, etc while she's stuck in her parent's house and in a loveless, probably sexless open relationship with another fat chick LARPing as a man (I'm certain their relationship is "open" in name only, and solely in case one/both finally manage to snag a gay man). Her parents are terrified of questioning what she does after years of her suicide baiting, all her friends are troons or TRAs since she cut everyone else out, and she's employed in the fine arts so everyone she works with is another TIF or a different kind of female genderspecial, so I don't think she could question the trans narrative now even if she wanted to without losing her livelihood. There's no way out for her.
She had a total breakdown right around when her little sister had a baby, and while that could just be regular cluster B shit I'm convinced it was because she realized she totally destroyed her chances of being a normal, happy straight woman.
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It really disgusts me how those 6"5' hulks later justify their behaviour by saying that they are going through "a second puberty" or that "it's their hormones". It comes to show how sexists troons are.
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Domperidone? Isn't that an anti-emetic?
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You’re right, it’s still hard for detrans lesbians, I shouldn’t downplay that. But it’s less bad.
Feminists are not obligated to support every woman (or female)’s choice. I agree with the previous poster who said FTMs are the ones who are trying to degender women’s health concerns. I’m sympathetic toward actual children who are uncomfortable with puberty, but fully grown adults? I am not. If you try to ‘identify out of womanhood’ because you think you’re too good to be a woman, I don’t want you near me. The way they talk about women and imply all women are hyper feminine cheerleaders is awful.
This is from some semi-famous Twitter artist. She’s in her 30s. I hate this kind of thinking and I see it from ‘enbies’ all the time and I do not want them around.
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I was going to add him! But I decided to make a second part dedicated exclusively to the ones who already have dedicated threads. Suggestions are welcome.
In the meantime, here's a troon chin compilation.
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Oh bloody hell those photos are like headshots of actors auditioning for a horror film. They wouldn’t need much in the way of prosthetics.
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Yup. Sure is. Not a very good one mind. Also used to relieve nausea symptoms in Parkinson’s patients. It increases prolactin as well and so gets used as a galactogogue. Banned for that use in some places I think.
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"True self" is just pseudo religious trans ideology bullshit. It doesn't exist.
1. Your personality can change
2. Your feelings and believes can change (*cough* detransition)
3. You don't have hack off body parts and take hormones to be yourself or to explore your inner world
4. She thinks her "true self" is a man but she will never see the world trough the eyes of a man. The "true self" that she believes exists is a woman who thinks she is a man.
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Oh, I agree completely. And your experience really reminds me of a girl I used to know.
She was ftm and just... the most miserable woman I think I've ever met. She was probably in her early-mid twenties and you got the sense that her life was already over. I remember one time, we (her, my SO and I) were wandering around downtown and went in a toy store, she saw something she liked and my SO told her she should get it if it made her happy, and she said in a really sad, grudging way, "No, it's for girls, and I'm not a girl." Of course, she was also a narcissistic, borderline mess who couldn't talk about anything but herself and her feelings, so we "lost touch" after a while. I wonder if she ever came to her senses, or if she's nearing thirty herself by now and still pretending.
No, I completely understand and agree with you. I just don't think we can kick trans-identified women out of women's spaces without losing the ability to argue that trans-identified men don't belong there, you know?
Personally, I don't like having trans-identified women in women's spaces. As you and others have pointed out, they argue against women's rights, try to make women's issues gender neutral in a way that destroys women's ability to discuss issues and help each other, and more problems. I am frustrated by these women and their narcissistic, misogynistic ideas and attitudes. I generally don't like dealing with them and wish other women would stop putting up with their shit.
I just don't want them kicked out of women's spaces because the only argument for doing so en masse - "you don't identify as women" - is also an argument for letting trans-identified men in. You can't base your ability to be in women's spaces on gender identity without letting men in. And that's far more of a safety risk for the women involved than letting trans-identified women in. It's the lesser of two evils.
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This is an issue a lot of trans people have. Their life sucks and they think it’s because they’re trans, so they troon out, and they get all the hormones and surgery, and their life still sucks, and then what?
I understand why doctors won’t sterilize 18 year old childless women. People do, in fact, change their minds. Also people in the US love to sue. So the fact that doctors will sterilize 18 year old childless women because they say they’re a man is shocking.
Same with hysterectomies, especially total ones (that means removal of all reproductive organs). That’s a major ordeal! Doctors have tried to stop performing so many on non-troons even for legitimate health reasons because there’s real consequences. And not just with hormones, but anatomically, a female body is meant to have those to hold things up.
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Women's spaces don't exist to separate the sexes just because, they exist to protect the (weaker) women from the (stronger) men.
If you accept this, it's perfectly logical to kick trans-identified women from women's spaces. They made themselves stronger and (more importantly) more threatening. Women have every right to kick out the people who deliberately made themselves look like a threat. As to where they should go -- it's no longer our problem.
This is not a compassionate stance, and I don't necessarily support it for all spaces. But it is logical and keeps males out.
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Yes, they deliberately target vulnerable people. Ironically, those who "protect" and "advocate" for them are the ones killing them. As I said: trans cliques are death cults.
I agree. You don't get to defeat this madness by playing by their rules. Legitimizing their worldview, even when it spites them, only produces harm.
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Eh, most of them aren’t on T.
If they’re allowed in women’s spaces, no validating their bullshit. If you want to be in a woman’s space you need to accept being called female and not otherwise changing language to suit you.
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The problem is that people are being raised to not accept this. In almost every childrens show I watched as a kid, there was a guaranteed "girls are just as strong as boys" episode. And even outright saying that men are stronger than women will turn a lot of heads and potentially get you in trouble.
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Far be it from me to try to interfere in women's spaces, but... just a suggestion here: shouldn't the argument be "you're fucking it up for everybody else here, shape up or get the fuck out"?