Warhammer 40k

[That Chris Guy]

I miss Oldcrons. They were tragic beings trapped in a Faustian bargain. Newcrons are just, like, conquistadors or something. Now that they no longer hate and envy all life, they're actually much less evil than the Imperium.

Same. I stopped checking them out the moment they ditched the C'Tan. The idea that they overthrew them was acceptable to start, but they've turned into something that's far and away different from what they originally were. The idea of them valuing life is anathema to that original vision.

I get it - the Oldcrons had no true personality beyond the C'Tan, and their overreliance on them would have you think maybe they should be renamed to C'Tan's Bitches, but they were sinister and threatening. Part of that came from them being silent, now they're just dumb, metal bureaucrats by comparison. Previously they left dead, barren worlds behind in a similar vein to Tyranids; now all the art I see just involves big empires of green light, devoid of that emptiness.

If there were to be a revision of the Necron mythos, I would have kept them under the C'Tan's control, but in the interest of claiming more life force they surrender some of the mental enslavement on Necron individuals to more efficiently field an army. As it is now, the usurping nature of the Newcrons only downplays the C'Tan as far as I'm concerned. I don't care what the Void Dragon does anymore - they got their asses kicked to the kerb, so clearly they're not powerful enough to cause worry.

 

[Regu]

Same. I stopped checking them out the moment they ditched the C'Tan. The idea that they overthrew them was acceptable to start, but they've turned into something that's far and away different from what they originally were. The idea of them valuing life is anathema to that original vision.

I get it - the Oldcrons had no true personality beyond the C'Tan, and their overreliance on them would have you think maybe they should be renamed to C'Tan's Bitches, but they were sinister and threatening. Part of that came from them being silent, now they're just dumb, metal bureaucrats by comparison. Previously they left dead, barren worlds behind in a similar vein to Tyranids; now all the art I see just involves big empires of green light, devoid of that emptiness.

If there were to be a revision of the Necron mythos, I would have kept them under the C'Tan's control, but in the interest of claiming more life force they surrender some of the mental enslavement on Necron individuals to more efficiently field an army. As it is now, the usurping nature of the Newcrons only downplays the C'Tan as far as I'm concerned. I don't care what the Void Dragon does anymore - they got their asses kicked to the kerb, so clearly they're not powerful enough to cause worry.

It would have been for the best if the Newcrons were a distinct minority as to mirror the Eldar. You would have two factions, one stuck to the old ways (Oldcrons and Deldar) and the other treading a relativiely new path (Newcrons and Craftworld). You'd be able to get the personality of the newcrons in this minority, as well as a good explation as to why the change, without sacrificing the original idea.

 

[Love Machine]

Watched a 9th ed BR between Eldar and Custodes. The Custodes won because they have cp now, but thats not the point. Holy fuck they need to do something with eldar, like they couldnt do shit the whole game but get dabbed on, the final score was like 20-60.

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

Same. I stopped checking them out the moment they ditched the C'Tan. The idea that they overthrew them was acceptable to start, but they've turned into something that's far and away different from what they originally were. The idea of them valuing life is anathema to that original vision.

I get it - the Oldcrons had no true personality beyond the C'Tan, and their overreliance on them would have you think maybe they should be renamed to C'Tan's Bitches, but they were sinister and threatening. Part of that came from them being silent, now they're just dumb, metal bureaucrats by comparison. Previously they left dead, barren worlds behind in a similar vein to Tyranids; now all the art I see just involves big empires of green light, devoid of that emptiness.

If there were to be a revision of the Necron mythos, I would have kept them under the C'Tan's control, but in the interest of claiming more life force they surrender some of the mental enslavement on Necron individuals to more efficiently field an army. As it is now, the usurping nature of the Newcrons only downplays the C'Tan as far as I'm concerned. I don't care what the Void Dragon does anymore - they got their asses kicked to the kerb, so clearly they're not powerful enough to cause worry.

I'm not too fond of the fact that they stole the Egyptian aesthetic from the Thousand Sons. But I suppose the Tyranids fit the bill of an unknowable, unkillable horror faction alot better than the oldcrons did. Even if they are just space termites.

 

[That Chris Guy]

I'm not too fond of the fact that they stole the Egyptian aesthetic from the Thousand Sons. But I suppose the Tyranids fit the bill of an unknowable, unkillable horror faction alot better than the oldcrons did. Even if they are just space termites.

Oldcrons had their moments:

They provided the archetype of an ancient enemy. Where the Tyranids were a constantly evolving entity from some other place of an unknown age, the Necrons were an ancient race that was already so far ahead that any evolution wasn't necessary, and it served as a nice juxtaposition. The Eldar feared them, the Tyranids avoided them, the Mechanicus were driven to madness, and two of the most lethal types of Assassinorium agents had disturbing ties to their technology.

They are more like Metal Tomb Kings now, right down to overthrowing Nagash, and as cool as that sounds it just feels like being cybernetic is their only remaining gimmick.

 

[Imperial Citizen]

Oldcrons had their moments:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=QTESLdiHfHQ
They provided the archetype of an ancient enemy. Where the Tyranids were a constantly evolving entity from some other place of an unknown age, the Necrons were an ancient race that was already so far ahead that any evolution wasn't necessary, and it served as a nice juxtaposition. The Eldar feared them, the Tyranids avoided them, the Mechanicus were driven to madness, and two of the most lethal types of Assassinorium agents had disturbing ties to their technology.

They are more like Metal Tomb Kings now, right down to overthrowing Nagash, and as cool as that sounds it just feels like being cybernetic is their only remaining gimmick.

Newcrons can be just as terrifying as Oldcrons. No doubt that several of the overlords and lords operate as silent killing machines.

What I like about the change from old to new is that it kind of like the awakening of the tomb world itself. First emerged the simple machines like warriors and scarabs. Next came the elite units; immortals, crypteks, and doomsday arks. Now we have even more ancient and advanced entities like the Silent King.

The more the necrons awaken, the more terrifying weapons will be unleashed.

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

Oldcrons had their moments:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=QTESLdiHfHQ
They provided the archetype of an ancient enemy. Where the Tyranids were a constantly evolving entity from some other place of an unknown age, the Necrons were an ancient race that was already so far ahead that any evolution wasn't necessary, and it served as a nice juxtaposition. The Eldar feared them, the Tyranids avoided them, the Mechanicus were driven to madness, and two of the most lethal types of Assassinorium agents had disturbing ties to their technology.

They are more like Metal Tomb Kings now, right down to overthrowing Nagash, and as cool as that sounds it just feels like being cybernetic is their only remaining gimmick.

That reminds: why the fuck did gee Gee Dubs remove the pariahs from the necron codex?

 

[Love Machine]

So if I wanted to make some of my Death Company former Deathwatch, Would I keep the shoulder and paint the rest DC colors, or keep is all DW. I know machine spirits dislike part swapping. But do they care about color?

 

[Second Missing Primarch]

So if I wanted to make some of my Death Company former Deathwatch, Would I keep the shoulder and paint the rest DC colors, or keep is all DW. I know machine spirits dislike part swapping. But do they care about color?

They do, which is why Deathwatch Marines retain their home chapter colors on the right shoulder. Keeps their armor's machine spirit happy.

 

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They do, which is why Deathwatch Marines retain their home chapter colors on the right shoulder. Keeps their armor's machine spirit happy.

And conversely, it's my understanding that a former Deathwatch that has returned after their Seconding puts the Deathwatch pauldron on the right side, leaving it painted silver, with the rest of their armor painted as normal for one of their chapter.

I have plans for a small killteam based on the First Strike box, and plan on making them all former DW so I can play them either as a Deathwatch KT or as a standard SM KT. I hear the First Strike DW KT is pretty decent for a first KT.

 

[Imperialist #348]

That reminds: why the fuck did gee Gee Dubs remove the pariahs from the necron codex?

your wandering why the same company that made the retard decision of killing of its original and successful setting, would go ahead and make another retarded decision? as to why it had alot to do with how they redid the necron lore, primarily that in old lore the necrontyr seeded humanity with the blank gene all the way back then in the hopes of using them as a fuck you to things like chaos and eldar, but with that being retconned pariahs were shafted as they were experiment of the necrons version of SoS.

I'm not too fond of the fact that they stole the Egyptian aesthetic from the Thousand Sons.

cough

COUGH

 

[Love Machine]

They do, which is why Deathwatch Marines retain their home chapter colors on the right shoulder. Keeps their armor's machine spirit happy.

So hypothetically, if I keep the entire left arm silver, and keep the red to a minimum, it would be reasonably fluffy enough? Fucking autistic machine spirits. At least I'm sure they stick the ornamentation on so those should be fine.

 

[Second Missing Primarch]

So hypothetically, if I keep the entire left arm silver, and keep the red to a minimum, it would be reasonably fluffy enough? Fucking autistic machine spirits. At least I'm sure they stick the ornamentation on so those should be fine.

Theoretically, yes. When a Marine returns to his chapter from the Deathwatch, he's allowed to keep the silver pauldron as a mark of service if he wants to, but repaints the rest of his armor to his original colors. So if you were going to have a Death Company veteran, you could probably just get away with painting the Deathwatch pauldron silver and do the rest of the armor in the usual DC scheme.

 

[Love Machine]

Theoretically, yes. When a Marine returns to his chapter from the Deathwatch, he's allowed to keep the silver pauldron as a mark of service if he wants to, but repaints the rest of his armor to his original colors. So if you were going to have a Death Company veteran, you could probably just get away with painting the Deathwatch pauldron silver and do the rest of the armor in the usual DC scheme.

A sad end, for one so accomplished.

 

[Imperial Citizen]

So hypothetically, if I keep the entire left arm silver, and keep the red to a minimum, it would be reasonably fluffy enough? Fucking autistic machine spirits. At least I'm sure they stick the ornamentation on so those should be fine.

Literally any paint scheme can be fluffy as long as you can make lore to back it up.

The Word Bearers have over 300 officially recognized different color schemes according to the lore, so anything goes.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

A sad end, for one so accomplished.

I would say this about Angron, but that's giving him too much credit.

 

[Love Machine]

Death Company bladeguard veterans would be pretty sick.

 

[Second Missing Primarch]

A sad end, for one so accomplished.

Such is the way of the Adeptus Astartes. Only in death does duty end.

 

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The entire Eldar race reading previous comments

- Huh.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

I hate strategy games because they are super boring but I just bought Total War Warhammer 2 because of the awesome monsters and it was only 20€ on Steam.

I'm probably going to lose all the time but at least I can watch monsters fighting.

I wish there was a Warhammer rpg game similar to Dragons Dogma.