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Kalvin Garrah suggested this comes from an excessively high dose of testosterone. I agree that there’s a distinct FTM voice that is also different from a woman’s deep natural voice or what you would get if you used software to pitch a woman’s voice down.
PL but this is it. High dose taken suddenly (ie not going from a starting low dose and gradually increasing) is what causes the squeaky FTM voice. IIRC it's due in part to the fact that the female larynx is smaller, and laryngeal cartilage ossification that occurs during puberty and further limits vocal chords lengthening on T. Damaging vocal chords by trying to force your voice deeper also contributes, as well as speaking from the nose instead of the chest (which women naturally do). Because women typically do not have high exposure to T the voice sounds unnatural compared to a deeper cis woman, and nasally compared to a cis man.

Going on a low dose myself (and never needing to increase it) plus training myself to talk from my chest for years, I never had the "FTM voice". Can post vocaroo if people want/need proof, but IMO the typical ftm voice comes mostly from these women talking like women, just in a deeper pitch, which comes off as nasally. Ironically they don't even read as gay male voices to me, which is the cope I see most often with ftms. Hope this helps.
 
PL but this is it. High dose taken suddenly (ie not going from a starting low dose and gradually increasing) is what causes the squeaky FTM voice. IIRC it's due in part to the fact that the female larynx is smaller, and laryngeal cartilage ossification that occurs during puberty and further limits vocal chords lengthening on T. Damaging vocal chords by trying to force your voice deeper also contributes, as well as speaking from the nose instead of the chest (which women naturally do). Because women typically do not have high exposure to T the voice sounds unnatural compared to a deeper cis woman, and nasally compared to a cis man.

Going on a low dose myself (and never needing to increase it) plus training myself to talk from my chest for years, I never had the "FTM voice". Can post vocaroo if people want/need proof, but IMO the typical ftm voice comes mostly from these women talking like women, just in a deeper pitch, which comes off as nasally. Ironically they don't even read as gay male voices to me, which is the cope I see most often with ftms. Hope this helps.
Can you elaborate on the nose/chest speaking thing? You don't have to vocaroo, but if you have a video or so you'd recommend as examples I'd like to check it out.
 
Got some weapons grade delusion for you:

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"Shut the fuck up headass" says the transspecies brony troon :story:

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An ultra-illusive black MTF shows up:
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Well, he lives in the UK, so many of the black population are probably members of the ultra-accepting religion of peace and/ or from ultra-accepting countries in Africa, that's probably a decent reason why they aren't too accepting of him. That and he likely doesn't pass.
"I choose to walk alone in the dark parking lot behind the black folks bar."

And thus a statistic was born (and strangled shortly thereafter).
 
Can you elaborate on the nose/chest speaking thing? You don't have to vocaroo, but if you have a video or so you'd recommend as examples I'd like to check it out.
I couldn't find a concise video (weak google-fu) but for example, if you talk with your chest you can feel vibrations if you put your hand on your chest, vs using your head voice, it will vibrate your nose/throat (I'm probably not explaining this well). It's what gives voices certain resonances and, usually most pertinent to singers, gives a different sound (chest = more bassy, deeper, richer; head = lighter, clearer). Men usually speak with their chest, but women tend to speak from their head. Sorry for TMI, but thought it was an interesting part of why troons sound so unnatural since most people recognize it naturally but may not know the intimate details.
 
An ultra-illusive black MTF shows up:
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Well, he lives in the UK, so many of the black population are probably members of the ultra-accepting religion of peace and/ or from ultra-accepting countries in Africa, that's probably a decent reason why they aren't too accepting of him. That and he likely doesn't pass.
It's not just a UK thing. I mentioned this earlier, but black people are less likely to support the idea that a person can change their sex than whites. 24% of white Democrats think a person’s gender is determined by their sex assigned at birth, while 55% of black Democrats do. I get where they're coming from; if I was a black woman and people were constantly comparing me to squawking white men in programming socks, I wouldn't be pleased either.
 
Totalitarian cancel culture is blazing across elite social networks and even Harpers Magazine, longstanding bastion of a-list liberal thought leaders, is starting to feel the heat. The publication has released an open letter calling for open debate and civil discourse. Troons, of course, assume this is all about them, mainly because JK Rowling, Jesse Singal, and a few other crypto terfs signed on (along with numerous academics and leftist icons like Noam Chompsky and Gloria Steinem).

Like any good soldier in a totalitarian purge, "Emily" vanderwho, a troon reporter from Vox, has reported his colleague Matthew Yglesias for signing this letter thereby making poor troons unsafe. After totally not at all threatening little Matt's career, "Emily" caps it all off by calling for donations to Trans Lifeline and for Vox to hire "Katelyn" Kyle Burns, both well documented troon grifts with dedicated Kiwi followings.


Matt is an insufferable liberal whose pending cancellation is richly deserved given that he has no problem engaging in woke pile-on when it benefits his career (he has deleted years of tweets as of today). The fact that the tables have turned mainly confirms that nothing is ever enough for these people. This cultural revolution runs on pure uncut pathological narcissism and troons of course thrive in such an environment and that's also what will be its downfall, I'm rooting for our boi ouroboros

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At that point it must be accepted that madness has overtaken your spouse and you must focus on doing what is best for yourself and your children. Which likely means immediate separation.

I would usually say "try to put your partner in therapy first and see if you can work things out" - but the way things are going right now with therapists etc, the trend is more 'let's pump them full of hormones and play into their illusions' and not 'let's figure out what's actually wrong with them', so yeah; divorcing and taking the kids with you is probably the only way to go once this happens, as sad as it is.

I just wonder why someone with a family would start to troon out. Like, I get why all of those discord no-life kiddos are trooning out - but why a grown ass man with a family? Anyone got some food for thoughts on that for me?
 
Not longer on /r/NeovaginaDisasters (RIP), now in technicolor on KF: post-op trannie overcomes Bacterial Vaginosis inside his flesh tunnel... "almost". He took femdophilis/probiotic supplement pills to overcome repeated outbreaks.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=MHvYwMZA0Og:60
And here's the part everyone wants to see: He admits that he only had sex once as a pre-op transwoman and that it was traumatic, so he basically doesn't know what it's like to have regular sex with his dick. This means he has no comparison really, yet he claims to be able to compare pre-op and post-op sex.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=MHvYwMZA0Og:170

does he have any videos on how profoundly autistic he is and how much it impacted his decision to chop his dick off? He has the most shallow philtrum of any autist I’ve ever seen outside the nonverbal cases.

Honestly I love when troons wear their additional mental disorders on their sleeves (faces).
 
"I choose to walk alone in the dark parking lot behind the black folks bar."

And thus a statistic was born (and strangled shortly thereafter).
Once again proving his manhood because most woman aren't going to be walking alone in a parking lot, behind a bar, late at night. That is just looking for trouble.
 
I would usually say "try to put your partner in therapy first and see if you can work things out" - but the way things are going right now with therapists etc, the trend is more 'let's pump them full of hormones and play into their illusions' and not 'let's figure out what's actually wrong with them', so yeah; divorcing and taking the kids with you is probably the only way to go once this happens, as sad as it is.

I just wonder why someone with a family would start to troon out. Like, I get why all of those discord no-life kiddos are trooning out - but why a grown ass man with a family? Anyone got some food for thoughts on that for me?
If you're interested in this sort of thing, the term you want is "trans widows". The Britbong hive of terfery mumsnet has several threads of eye-witness accounts on its infamous feminist chat forum, and they are very detailed. IIRC they have worked out the signs and stages of AGP trooning and also plans for getting your shit together to get out.

Their stories are universally horrifying. On the therapist thing, they report being berated for not supporting their "stunning and brave" husband "living his truth", bullied for not being more helpful while he spends all the family money on frilly panties and ignores his children, and accused of phobias and bigotry while the husband barges into their friend group demanding to be included in all activities with the "girls" and cuts off all their IRL support.

There are fascinating timelines of how this happens, including some important details relevant to common tranny bullshit like "the stage where they suddenly start to claim they knew they were a girl at 4 years old even though we've been married for 25 years and this has never come up before".

I'll warn you, it's a pretty tragic read.
 
He has the most shallow philtrum of any autist I’ve ever seen outside the nonverbal cases.

Honestly I love when troons wear their additional mental disorders on their sleeves (faces).
Are you unironically using phrenology to diagnose someone with Autism?
LMFAO LAD.
Literal Tomboy Genocide
So that the beauty of the White Aryan Tomboy won't perish from this earth.
Poetry, like clockwork.
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An ultra-illusive black MTF shows up:
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Well, he lives in the UK, so many of the black population are probably members of the ultra-accepting religion of peace and/ or from ultra-accepting countries in Africa, that's probably a decent reason why they aren't too accepting of him. That and he likely doesn't pass.
Wrong, most blacks living there are from Jamaica, a Christian country, or other parts of the Caribbean.
 
Totalitarian cancel culture is blazing across elite social networks and even Harpers Magazine, longstanding bastion of a-list liberal thought leaders, is starting to feel the heat. The publication has released an open letter calling for open debate and civil discourse. Troons, of course, assume this is all about them, mainly because JK Rowling, Jesse Singal, and a few other crypto terfs signed on (along with numerous academics and leftist icons like Noam Chompsky and Gloria Steinem).

Like any good soldier in a totalitarian purge, "Emily" vanderwho, a troon reporter from Vox, has reported his colleague Matthew Yglesias for signing this letter thereby making poor troons unsafe. After totally not at all threatening little Matt's career, "Emily" caps it all off by calling for donations to Trans Lifeline and for Vox to hire "Katelyn" Kyle Burns, both well documented troon grifts with dedicated Kiwi followings.


Matt is an insufferable liberal whose pending cancellation is richly deserved given that he has no problem engaging in woke pile-on when it benefits his career (he has deleted years of tweets as of today). The fact that the tables have turned mainly confirms that nothing is ever enough for these people. This cultural revolution runs on pure uncut pathological narcissism and troons of course thrive in such an environment and that's also what will be its downfall, I'm rooting for our boi ouroboros

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"We need to cancel this guy for being opposed to the concept of cancelling people."

Jesus Christ. The absolute state of political discourse in current year.

Also, editing the paper to be an attack on trannies when that was demonstrably not the point isn't a "joke." It's you reading a retarded transgression where there wasn't one and trying to get other people to rally behind you by forcing them to interpret it the same way. Can troons go five minutes without making literally everything about themselves?
 
Their stories are universally horrifying.

I remember reading about a woman that was in her 40ies and her husband trooned out, with surgery and everything - and how she 'came to terms with being lesbian' because otherwise he would have started to cheat on her. How she had to 'adjust her sexuality' to meet his needs etc, etc.

Nobody gave a flying fuck about how she felt or the fact that she basically agreed to sleep with her partner (even though she found it repulsive) just to keep their family together. How her husband's therapist guilt tripped her into accepting her husband's 'new personality'. How he convinced her that 'change' was normal and healthy in a relationship. How even her friends told her to 'just accept it' and how her husband has always been 'a bit different'. I didn't get it. It seemed like everyone around her was fucking insane. The way she talked about it just broke me, honestly.
 
I still remember when this variation of the "soyboy versus chad" meme was supposed to mock overconfident people that have a high opinion of themselves and don't bother trying to be common sensical and sensible about their beliefs thinking that's an "alpha male" thing to do.

It's kinda poetic seeing troons using this meme non-ironically, don't you think?
 
If you no longer see me in 3 weeks, you know what happened.

Also, editing the paper to be an attack on trannies when that was demonstrably not the point isn't a "joke." It's you reading a retarded transgression where there wasn't one and trying to get other people to rally behind you by forcing them to interpret it the same way. Can troons go five minutes without making literally everything about themselves?
So it is okay to question every single idea, except ideas about trannies. These are non-negotiable.

But liberals should not have anyone's sympathies because they fully and truly brought about themselves.
 
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