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Gab Has Been Blacklisted By Visa
Gab has been blacklisted by Visa for “promoting hate speech.”

Gab does no such thing. This is like saying Google “promotes hate speech” because you can search racial slurs on their search engine and get results. Gab is a neutral technology platform. We follow the law, have an excellent relationship with law enforcement, and have a clear set of community guidelines that detail what is allowed on our website and what is not.

The bottom line is that Gab is not controlled and cannot be controlled by the oligarchic elite who are working to overthrow our counties and infect them with communism. It’s no coincidence that Katie Hopkins was banned from Twitter today, Zerohedge and The Federalist had their comment sections censored by Google, and VDARE is getting banned by their domain registrar. All of this is coordinated. It’s targeted.

Where is the President? Where is Congress?

Tweeting and “monitoring the situation.” That’s where.

No one is coming to save us and no one is coming to save you.
It’s on all of us to save ourselves.


So we have lost credit card processing yet again after a year and a half of working to get it restored. We have been under attack at the payment processing level all month long. In early June we were abruptly banned by two separate underwriting banks without cause.


“Risk related reasons” is the excuse. These banks have no problem processing payments for pornography websites which are loaded with child exploitation, human trafficking, and more. They have no problem processing payments for cannabis, which is still illegal at the federal level. They have no problems processing payments for gambling websites.
Gab sells t-shirts, hats, and a software subscription service.
I guess that’s “high risk” to these people.

We still accept payments via echeck, check by mail, and bitcoin. If you’d like to support us through any of those options you can do so by upgrading to GabPRO here.

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We will not go gently into the good night. We will rage, rage, against the dying of the light.
Ephesians 6:12
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

As many of you already know we learned last week that Visa blacklisted Gab and we are now unable to process credit and debit card transactions. We learned more information this week and I think it’s important that I share it as a warning for others.

It’s not just Gab that is blacklisted. It’s also my family.

In China there is something called the Social Credit System, which was developed by the Communist Chinese Party as a “national reputation system.” This system tracks the “trustworthiness” of individuals, businesses, and organizations. “Trustworthiness” here means total and complete submission to the Chinese Communist Party. If the Communist Party deems you to be untrustworthy, you are denied access to plane tickets, train tickets, opening and operating businesses, and more.

As of June 2019, according to the National Development and Reform Commission of China, 26.82 million air tickets as well as 5.96 million high-speed rail tickets have been denied to people who were deemed “untrustworthy (失信)” (on a blacklist), and 4.37 million “untrustworthy” people have chosen to fulfill their duties required by the law.
To most Americans this sounds horrifying, and it is. I now know from first-hand experience because this social credit system exists in the United States. While it may not be sanctioned by the United States government, it most certainly has been deployed by US corporations who today have in many ways more power, data, and control over our lives than our government does. Many of these corporations also happen to be endorsing and raising money for communist organizations, revolutionaries, and the domestic terrorists burning down our cities.

We were told this week that not only is Gab blacklisted by Visa as a business, but my personal name, phone number, address, and more are all also blacklisted by Visa. If I wanted to leave Gab tomorrow (something that isn’t going to happen) and start a lemonade stand I wouldn’t be able to obtain merchant processing for it.

Simply because my name is Andrew Torba.

If my wife wants to start a business she won’t be able to obtain merchant processing because she lives at the same address as me and would be flagged by Visa.

This is obviously very concerning. We have done nothing wrong. Gab is and always has been a legally operated business. We sell hats, shirts, and a software subscription service that unlocks new features on Gab. My personal credit score is in the 800’s. I pay my bills. I have a wife and daughter to provide for, yet we are all being punished and defamed because someone at Visa has it out for me.

We were told that Visa has someone camping on our website watching our payment processing. As soon as we get a new processor up they find out who it is on their end and contact them. They tell the processor that Gab is flagged for “illegal activity” and if they do not stop processing payments for us they will be heavily fined.

When the processor inquires about this alleged “illegal activity,” Visa tells them that Gab has been flagged for “hate speech.” “Hate speech,” is of course not illegal in the United States of America and is protected by the First Amendment. As I have written, it’s not real and I refuse to acknowledge it as term. Visa doesn’t agree with me.

The reason I share all of this is that I hope it serves as a wakeup call and as a warning. If they can do this to me, they can do it to you and they likely will.

Christians need to be especially concerned and aware of this. The Communist revolutionaries taking over the United States are coming for us all. It’s only a matter of time before the Bible is labeled as “hate speech” and churches start to experience what I am going through right now.

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Revelation 13:17
Andrew Torba
CEO, Gab.com
June 26th, 2020

@Null you're not the only one facing trouble with payment processors.
 
I can see the outcome already. Eventually a completely separate banking system, along with its own infrastructure will be created, and in some aspects, it could turn out to be better in every way.

And then, that's when the tables will be turned.
 
I can see the outcome already. Eventually a completely separate banking system, along with its own infrastructure will be created, and in some aspects, it could turn out to be better in every way.

And then, that's when the tables will be turned.

Too much red tape. Not even a billionaire could do it.
 
So from what I understand payment processors do this because of the gay cake baker decision? And is it easy to create a payment processor or you have to be a billionaire to create one?
 
I can see the outcome already. Eventually a completely separate banking system, along with its own infrastructure will be created, and in some aspects, it could turn out to be better in every way.

And then, that's when the tables will be turned.
We all know where this is heading.
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Couldn't a billionaire hire lawyers to hack through the red tape?
Banker here, but a small community bank, not one of the bad ones.

There's a fuckton of Fair Lending/truth in lending regulations that will get a financial institution buttfucked for violations. They'd have to disembowel everything the financial system has passed in the last 50 years. Lawyers can't help you.

Sounds like a good time for us to start our own banks.
Credit unions, my dude. They're not subject to the same regulations as banks.
 
We all know where this is heading.
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We're about to be on the receiving end of an Apartheid system.

As much as it makes me sound like a blackpilled bedwetter, I have no illusions that we're gonna "take back our country". We should be steeling ourselves to become outcasts and even outlaws. We're the Great Satan now.
 
Banker here, but a small community bank, not one of the bad ones.

There's a fuckton of Fair Lending/truth in lending regulations that will get a financial institution buttfucked for violations. They'd have to disembowel everything the financial system has passed in the last 50 years. Lawyers can't help you.
Thank you for your insight.

So say I'm a billionaire, and I make PylosCard and I start extending credit to people. I give all the KF and the Gab users lines of credit, I give merchant accounts to Null and Torba, everyone can buy t-shirts, everyone lives happily ever after (except probably me). What's the regulatory catch? That I have to extend credit to people I don't like? Will the existing bankers somehow lawfare me? Is there no way for a billionaire to cut this Gordian Knot?
 
So from what I understand payment processors do this because of the gay cake baker decision? And is it easy to create a payment processor or you have to be a billionaire to create one?
i hate this fucking thing. WAsnt the whole issue that they wouldnt make them a specific cake? they were still going to make a cake for them. Its like asking the bank to make a specific loan cuz your a faggot. If they deny it, just cry they are discriminating agaisnt fags.
 
Thank you for your insight.

So say I'm a billionaire, and I make PylosCard and I start extending credit to people. I give all the KF and the Gab users lines of credit, I give merchant accounts to Null and Torba, everyone can buy t-shirts, everyone lives happily ever after (except probably me). What's the regulatory catch? That I have to extend credit to people I don't like? Will the existing bankers somehow lawfare me? Is there no way for a billionaire to cut this Gordian Knot?

You can only deny someone credit if their credit history is shit (which tbh is likely with hard leftists who hate your ass) and you have to refer them to the credit reporting agency that you based your denial on. You also have to keep records as to why you denied them credit.

If you deny someone credit on the basis of sex, race, religion, etc, you're in a world of shit.

Edit: you probably wouldn't get completely shut down, but getting written up by the Treasury auditors will hurt your reputation and rating.
 
i hate this fucking thing. WAsnt the whole issue that they wouldnt make them a specific cake? they were still going to make a cake for them. Its like asking the bank to make a specific loan cuz your a faggot. If they deny it, just cry they are discriminating agaisnt fags.
There were other stores that could have done the job for them but given how athiest faggots are, they wanted to give Jesus the giant middle finger.
 
Cant they just to it the old fashion way? open up a bank account in eastern europe (i think hungary has a community owned banking system like central europe).
and get their money wired to them?
 
You can only deny someone credit if their credit history is shit (which tbh is likely with hard leftists who hate your ass) and you have to refer them to the credit reporting agency that you based your denial on. You also have to keep records as to why you denied them credit.

If you deny someone credit on the basis of sex, race, religion, etc, you're in a world of shit.

Edit: you probably wouldn't get completely shut down, but getting written up by the Treasury auditors will hurt your reputation and rating.
I know Visa is different, but isn't it discriminatory to ban someone over what they say on the web?
 
Cant they just to it the old fashion way? open up a bank account in eastern europe (i think hungary has a community owned banking system like central europe).
and get their money wired to them?
That'll work until the Biden/Harris administration place sanctions on any country that does business with the White Devils.

Remember, according to shitlibs, you are worse than Iran, ISIS, North Korea, and drug cartels combined because you don't bow down and worship them.

I know Visa is different, but isn't it discriminatory to ban someone over what they say on the web?
Not if what you say on the web makes someone "feel unsafe".
 
I can see the outcome already. Eventually a completely separate banking system, along with its own infrastructure will be created, and in some aspects, it could turn out to be better in every way.

And then, that's when the tables will be turned.
You don't remember when Facebook tried to make their own cryptocurency a year or two ago? Everyone balked and it was shitcanned. And they were a left leaning org.

TPTB wouldn't even let a GOP version off the ground. At this point, non-left sites are probably going to move to cash only or crypto. Probably the latter since if they did the former, TBTB would just try and convert everyone to digital curency so fast you'd snap your neck.

The left is sowing the wind and the entire earth is going to reap the whirlwind. In the future, there's gonna be a rightwing facist and all the things the left has done to the right is going to be put on them. And no one will come for them since everyone wants the left's shit kicked in. And then WWIII kicks off because the fascists think they can take on China.
 
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