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Russia’s New Cathedral
Yvonne Lorenzo• June 26, 2020
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In the America—and the West—we are experiencing an iconoclastic movement, when Marxists proudly proclaim their hope to destroy not only sites of cultural heritage but also churches. As Guy Birchall wrote on an op-ed on RT.com:
A leading activist’s remarks that all “statues, murals, and stained glass windows of white Jesus, and his European mother” represent “gross white supremacy” shows that radical, racialised politics has no limit to its targets.
The problematic statues row has now taken a turn from political iconoclasm to literal iconoclasm with depictions of “white Jesus” next on the hit list for some of Black Lives Matter’s more hardcore proponents…
But even with the pace with which this movement has declared former icons persona non-grata, to jump from Teddy Roosevelt to Jesus is extraordinary. Were Mr. King’s demands to be met, and “all statues of the White European they claim to be Jesus” to come down, that would amount to the destruction of some of the finest works of art in existence.
Michelangelo’s Pieta, gone, Da Vinci’s Last Supper, erased, Raphael’s Transfiguration, wiped, Donatello’s Crucifix, torn down, and that would be just if we targeted artists who share their names with turtles who know karate. And the Sistine Chapel? Razed to the ground, along with the smashing of the stained-glass windows of virtually every church and cathedral in Europe.
This erasure of history would make the destruction of the Reformation and the dissolution of the monasteries in 16th-century England look like child’s play.
In contrast to this growing movement of destruction in the West, Russia has built a new Cathedral that Zero Hedge has curiously described as “Putin’s ‘Cathedral Of War’ Like ‘A Glimpse Of An Alien Civilization’” and perhaps the authors are correct—to the West building a cathedral is alien. Notre Dame burns; Russia builds new cathedrals.
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I think Alexander Adams writing in an op-ed on RT understands partially but not entirely what the cathedral represents. He writes:
The magnificent six billion ruble building in a forest outside Moscow can accommodate 6,000 people and is an unashamed paean to Russian military might. Would any Western nation dare erect such a public spectacle?
This week saw the opening of Russia’s newest public buildings, the Main Cathedral of the Russian Armed Forces, Moscow. It is a grand statement of Vladimir Putin’s vision of what is most important in Russia: Russian Orthodox faith, national pride and the armed services. It was consecrated on June 14 and opened to the public on Monday, June 22.
The huge cathedral (which can accommodate up to 6,000 people and has six gilded domes) is dedicated to the glory and memory of the armed services, and cost around six billion rubles ($86 million). Steps are made of steel from captured Nazi tanks. The colour schemes of stained-glass windows replicate those of military decorations.
The architecture and interior design (with its extensive use of gilding and iconography) makes the cathedral very clearly Eastern Orthodox, with no concessions to modernist taste. The height of the cross on the main dome is 95 meters above ground level. It is located in a forest on the outskirts of Moscow and contains extensive symmetrical landscape features echoing the traditional layout of a church.
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At a time when the West is becoming increasingly reticent about its military strength – holding fewer military parades and running recruitment drives emphasising humanitarian relief work rather than soldiering (with lackluster results) – President Putin has asserted that Russia’s military fights and dies for the glory of the nation.
It is inconceivable that a Western state would today erect a cathedral of the character of the Main Cathedral. In Western Europe, the size and prestige of the military is contracting, due to budgetary restrictions and ambivalence about the role of military service. In Russia – at least according to the government line – the military is still at the heart of the nation.
The architecture is Russian Revival, using aspects of the Romanov style and traditional Russian Orthodox ecclesiastical design. The opulent decoration and detailing marks a decisive rejection of USSR-era functionalism (The Stalin-era saw a brief, limited return to historical styles, which can still be seen today in the Moscow Metro). It is defiantly not postmodern (the prevailing international style) and this can be read as a sign of an attachment to the native Russian form of architecture, particularly in church design. Amalgams of tradition and innovations – such as LED lighting and areas of glass ceilings in the new cathedral – are dismissed as “pastiche” and “inauthentic.”
As an assertion of confidence and clarity, the project is impressive. How accurately the project reflects social, economic and geo-political conditions of contemporary Russia is for each of us – and history – to judge. Not having visited the cathedral, I am not in a position to say how well the building works architecturally. Whatever one’s personal taste, the cathedral will become a touchstone for how we view this era of Russian history (favorably or otherwise).
For those of us who are unlikely to visit Moscow, the reception of the cathedral reflects back at us the question “So what will the architecture of your society tell history?” In the West, we maintain our historic cathedrals and build art museums as new sites of sacred contemplation. Our most expensive buildings are airports and super bridges, which must eventually be replaced. Are we content to allow our message to posterity to be that of shopping malls and airports? [Emphasis added.]
One might as how can a Christian Cathedral pay tribute to the military that did the most to defeat Nazi Germany—isn’t war anti-ethical to Christianity? It is very true that the Bolsheviks martyred at least two million Russian Christians; and if they were not aided and abetted by Russians who were not Christian, perhaps Hitler might have never come to power; that is an unanswerable question. What is done is done. Yet what I think the message of the cathedral is to the West that has made Russia an enemy is to tell not only the Russian people but the West that they will fail in their quest to destroy Russia; and the Orthodox faith, the Christian faith with new power has returned to Russia and Russians will guard against their nation and their people’s destruction by what is clearly—in the most recent actions of the elites supporting the mob—an anti-Christian West. Russia is showing that not only it will defend its nation but it will defend its faith. To the godless rulers of the West, that is heresy. Americans may not agree with this, but Russia is very much aware it is viewed as an enemy, reviled and in a state of war, perhaps not as cold as the last one. Putin himself, after visiting the Cathedral, said, “For us, the citizens of Russia, the memory of the Great Patriotic War, of all those who fought and died, who brought victory closer, by all means, is absolutely sacred. It is always with us. It gives us the strength to serve our country.”


While so-called conservatives who in America haven’t conserved the right to women to use their own public restrooms bemoan the destruction of historical monuments, they have no problem with historical revisionism about World War II. Putin recently provided facts that contradict the false blame on the Russians starting the war in The National Interest, and also is available here on TheSaker.IS where he explained in part:
Stalin and his entourage, indeed, deserve many legitimate accusations. We remember the crimes committed by the regime against its own people and the horror of mass repressions. In other words, there are many things the Soviet leaders can be reproached for, but poor understanding of the nature of external threats is not one of them. They saw how attempts were made to leave the Soviet Union alone to deal with Germany and its allies. Bearing in mind this real threat, they sought to buy precious time needed to strengthen the country’s defences.
Nowadays, we hear lots of speculations and accusations against modern Russia in connection with the Non-Aggression Pact signed back then. Yes, Russia is the legal successor state to the USSR, and the Soviet period – with all its triumphs and tragedies – is an inalienable part of our thousand-year-long history. However, let me also remind you that the Soviet Union gave a legal and moral assessment of the so-called Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact. The Supreme Soviet in its resolution of December 24, 1989 officially denounced the secret protocols as “an act of personal power” which in no way reflected “the will of the Soviet people who bear no responsibility for this collusion.”
Yet other states prefer to forget the agreements carrying signatures of the Nazis and Western politicians, not to mention giving legal or political assessments of such cooperation, including the silent acquiescence – or even direct abetment – of some European politicians in the barbarous plans of the Nazis. It will suffice to remember the cynical phrase said by Polish Ambassador to Germany J. Lipski during his conversation with Hitler on September 20, 1938: “…for solving the Jewish problem, we [the Poles] will build in his honour … a splendid monument in Warsaw.”
As has been discussed in this site and others—not the legacy media—in articles on Russian weaponry defending against a Western preemptive nuclear strike, Putin has recently responded in response to the development of American hypersonic missiles:
“Putin believes the world’s leading defence powers will eventually succeed in developing the ultra-fast weaponry. However, the President explained to Russia-1 TV, on Sunday, that Russia won’t be caught off-guard once that happens. At present, the country seems to be leading the field in this area.
“ ‘I think that we can pleasantly surprise our partners with the fact that when they get these weapons, we will have the means of combating them, with a high degree of probability,’ Putin forecast.”
Military analyst and historian Andrei Martyanov, who lives and works in America, recently discussed what this might mean on his blog:
“But what Putin was talking about in terms of a defense from future hyper-sonic weapons, most likely are not just S-500, which is stated to be able to detect, track and shoot down hyper-sonic weapons, especially ones which will be flying at Mach=5-6 (S-400 can do this already). He was most likely talking about defense against what could be defined as ‘strategic’ hyper-sonic gliders which fly at M=20+ and that is a completely different type of weapon and requires a different, from merely hard-kill by anti-missile, approach. Obviously, Russia deploys, now world-famous, A-235 Nudol, and this system becoming mobile is a serious step in countering pretty much any type of exoatmosperic or atmospheric high-velocity and maneuvering targets. But rule of thumb tells us that we, in addition to such missile systems as S-500 or Nudol, may expect appearance of something truly revolutionary which is still hidden behind curtain of secrecy in Russia. Lasers? Sure, we already know about them, like Peresvet, but something tells me some other physics could be involved. In the end, many still cannot get a full meaning of this demonstration which speaks volumes for professionals.”

The execrable, incompetent Victoria Nuland is in the news, making threats, but without the power to back them up. Obviously, she has no understanding of military capabilities or advanced technology. And how a disintegrating, broke, demoralized country, that as was described on LewRockwell.com today in “The Evil of Militarism” the following excellent observations:
“We certainly see in the United States a totally militarist nation – completely militarist and completely devoid of bravery. Chesterton describes this as decadence. But this inverse relationship, according to Chesterton, is as it must be…Once Christianity was removed from society, man’s clay was available to be molded by another. We saw that molding really take form with the dawn of the Progressive Era, but it strikes me that it fully gained steam after World War Two, with the creation of the permanent military and the birth and expansion of the spy state in all its forms and with all of its manipulations.”
Recently, American troops and engineering faced off in Syria against Russia’s as shown in this video.

Breaking news as I write this is that Trump is being Trump again: “Trump says US will ‘probably’ relocate some troops from Germany to Poland as ‘signal’ to Russia.” Perhaps this was in response to Russia’s chess move with Saudi Arabia, as this article from Oilprice.com discusses:
  • Russia is offering Mohammed bin Salman a slew of beneficial deals in order to lure Saudi Arabia away from the U.S. and into Putin’s sphere of influence.
  • Saudi Arabia is in a very weak position both economically and militarily and has become increasingly reliant on Russia due to the OPEC+ deal.
  • The next step for Russia will be to reduce the U.S. military footprint in Saudi Arabia and attempt to offer further protection for Riyadh.
The psychopaths in charge in the West appear intent on war with Russia; I don’t believe Russia wants war because it knows its cost, as the Immortal Regiment shows; but America only bombs other weaker nations. It has never felt the devastation to the extent Russia has throughout history. I don’t know what Washington’s victory would like but I think the new cathedral is a symbol for Russia’s desire to defend themselves, no matter the cost. If only the fools in NATO, Washington, London, the EU—the whole rotten bunch—understood. Sadly, we ordinary people, the peacemakers, will be the ones—as usual—to suffer from their decisions.

 
Please do explain that, actually.

Start with Rus builds cathedrals and churches that remain empty because the population is culturally orthodox not practicing and then go on from there: " you can see the fsb/kgb laurels under the priest's cassock" complaints; Patriarch Kirill owns a lot of luxury goods which were "gifted" to him.

Further down the list is the conflict between soviet era- diaspora jurisidictions in the USA (rocor and GOA although i've read that this has ameliorated over the last decade) and the Russian church; the blessing of military equipment and the like, toll houses.
One could complain about the Russia tanking the "ecumenical council" that happened a few years ago, depending on framing.
 
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Something that a lot of people don't comprehend is that Hitler hated Slavs just as much as he hated Jews. For Russians, WWII was as much of a genocide against them as it was against Jews, something like 20 million of them died during the war.

that whole "church" is a giant lolcow with endless scandals and fucks ups

you guys realize that they put Hitler's visor cap and personal things as "relics" into that cathedral?

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Nothing wrong with using a proof of victory as an ornament.
 
Please do explain that, actually.

It would take a lot of time, but might be fun. I'll consider it.
You could start exploring this subject on your own if you're interested, starting with Patriarch Kirill, the head of said church who preaches modesty while drowning in luxury: http://rus952.blogspot.com/2016/11/blog-post_926.html
I think there should be a way to roughly translate the whole thing through browser or something

Here's just one example, all these idiots get caught with expensive watches on their wrists:
 
When you can't afford a military capable of competing with the USA/PRC but are desperate to make your people think you can, I guess this is what you resort to.
 
Something that a lot of people don't comprehend is that Hitler hated Slavs just as much as he hated Jews. For Russians, WWII was as much of a genocide against them as it was against Jews, something like 20 million of them died during the war.

no, Nazi ideology considered Slavs as great slave labour worthy servants of the master race. Slav's in the concentration camps were forced to donate blood for needs of German hospitals. Same was not true of Jews.

The real number is guestimated at something like 30+ million, 20+ troops and 10+ civs or the other way around.

Most of those casualties are thanks to Soviet military practices to send waves of (sometimes unarmed) troops into German MGs. They also practiced scorched earth policy against their own people. I'll mention the famous quote by Stalin "soldier will not defend an empty house" ... i.e. let's not evacuate Stalingrad and let close to 1 mil civs and wounded die.

Nothing wrong with using a proof of victory as an ornament.

You do not bring shit into a holy place, it's called desecration. There are no "trophies" in CO faith. A true "relic", like may be bones of a holy saint, were frequently used to put into foundation of a new church, but never filth.

Calling Hitler's personal shit as "relic" is a horrible scandal unto itself. Bringing it into church is sacrelage.

Remember when Michael Jackson tried to visit ROC church after the fall of the soviet union and was rejected. That's more inline how it suppose to be.
 
no, Nazi ideology considered Slavs as great slave labour worthy servants of the master race. Slav's in the concentration camps were forced to donate blood for needs of German hospitals. Same was not true of Jews.

The real number is guestimated at something like 30+ million, 20+ troops and 10+ civs or the other way around.

Most of those casualties are thanks to Soviet military practices to send waves of (sometimes unarmed) troops into German MGs. They also practiced scorched earth policy against their own people. I'll mention the famous quote by Stalin "soldier will not defend an empty house" ... i.e. let's not evacuate Stalingrad and let close to 1 mil civs and wounded die.



You do not bring shit into a holy place, it's called desecration. There are no "trophies" in CO faith. A true "relic", like may be bones of a holy saint, were frequently used to put into foundation of a new church, but never filth.

Calling Hitler's personal shit as "relic" is a horrible scandal unto itself. Bringing it into church is sacrelage.

Remember when Michael Jackson tried to visit ROC church after the fall of the soviet union and was rejected. That's more inline how it suppose to be.
So would this technically make Hitler a full-fledged religious figure in the Russian Orthodox Church, since his hat is a holy relic?
 
This place is so wierd it looks like a fucking POSTAL 2 map and now people are pointing out the creepy details it's just getting wierder.
 
It would take a lot of time, but might be fun. I'll consider it.
You could start exploring this subject on your own if you're interested, starting with Patriarch Kirill, the head of said church who preaches modesty while drowning in luxury: http://rus952.blogspot.com/2016/11/blog-post_926.html
I think there should be a way to roughly translate the whole thing through browser or something

Here's just one example, all these idiots get caught with expensive watches on their wrists:

I'd say that there is enough material for a subforum with threads dedicated to specific categories of events.

I'd say on weekly basis, there is some lol worthy retardation like patriarch wishing "happy start of WWII day!" or priest blessing Lenin/Stalin statue and Lenin Jugend Pioneers/scouts (in old days appearing in church would mean public expulsion from the Pioneers/Communist Youth, public shaming and re-education follow up work)

On a monthly basis, there is some local priest bowling over pedestrians while shitfaced or found out to be a homo/pedo/patron of local whores.

There are some major scandals that are somewhat rare, like one of the patriarchs taking young monastic as his gay lovers, Baltic states dumping KGB archives online that spell out high ranking church members as KGB CIs and outright officers.

In addition, throughout the year there are independent investigations and lol photos of grossly overweight church members on luxury yachts, private jets, resorts etc.


Lots of info, but obviously mostly in Russian and I am not sure how hilarious they would be to non-speaking crowds. To me, as an x-Communist Youth member, it's pretty funny and outrageous, but it's a cultural thing.


Then are the x-AG of Crimea who betrayed her oath and joined Russia as AG then as a deputy. She is so crazy that she can't keep a man despite her notoriety and status (i.e. money) She was kind of cute in her younger days, I'd def stick it like king Arthur and run, but holy shit, she is so dumb that no one wants to associate with her or give her airtime anymore.

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She is infatuated with Nicholas II and religion, peddling claims that new bust of Nicholas II (who and whose family were executed by Bolshevicks) "shed tears".

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"find this broad a man"

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I'd say that there is enough material for a subforum with threads dedicated to specific categories of events.

I'd say on weekly basis, there is some lol worthy retardation like patriarch wishing "happy start of WWII day!" or priest blessing Lenin/Stalin statue and Lenin Jugend Pioneers/scouts (in old days appearing in church would mean public expulsion from the Pioneers/Communist Youth, public shaming and re-education follow up work)

On a monthly basis, there is some local priest bowling over pedestrians while shitfaced or found out to be a homo/pedo/patron of local whores.

There are some major scandals that are somewhat rare, like one of the patriarchs taking young monastic as his gay lovers, Baltic states dumping KGB archives online that spell out high ranking church members as KGB CIs and outright officers.

In addition, throughout the year there are independent investigations and lol photos of grossly overweight church members on luxury yachts, private jets, resorts etc.


Lots of info, but obviously mostly in Russian and I am not sure how hilarious they would be to non-speaking crowds. To me, as an x-Communist Youth member, it's pretty funny and outrageous, but it's a cultural thing.


Then are the x-AG of Crimea who betrayed her oath and joined Russia as AG then as a deputy. She is so crazy that she can't keep a man despite her notoriety and status (i.e. money) She was kind of cute in her younger days, I'd def stick it like king Arthur and run, but holy shit, she is so dumb that no one wants to associate with her or give her airtime anymore.

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She is infatuated with Nicholas II and religion, peddling claims that new bust of Nicholas II (who and whose family were executed by Bolshevicks) "shed tears".

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"find this broad a man"


Yeah, I know about most of this. Despite all my attempts to avoid TV and other media, it's just too much.
 
I'd say that there is enough material for a subforum with threads dedicated to specific categories of events.

I'd say on weekly basis, there is some lol worthy retardation like patriarch wishing "happy start of WWII day!" or priest blessing Lenin/Stalin statue and Lenin Jugend Pioneers/scouts (in old days appearing in church would mean public expulsion from the Pioneers/Communist Youth, public shaming and re-education follow up work)

On a monthly basis, there is some local priest bowling over pedestrians while shitfaced or found out to be a homo/pedo/patron of local whores.

There are some major scandals that are somewhat rare, like one of the patriarchs taking young monastic as his gay lovers, Baltic states dumping KGB archives online that spell out high ranking church members as KGB CIs and outright officers.

In addition, throughout the year there are independent investigations and lol photos of grossly overweight church members on luxury yachts, private jets, resorts etc.


Lots of info, but obviously mostly in Russian and I am not sure how hilarious they would be to non-speaking crowds. To me, as an x-Communist Youth member, it's pretty funny and outrageous, but it's a cultural thing.


Then are the x-AG of Crimea who betrayed her oath and joined Russia as AG then as a deputy. She is so crazy that she can't keep a man despite her notoriety and status (i.e. money) She was kind of cute in her younger days, I'd def stick it like king Arthur and run, but holy shit, she is so dumb that no one wants to associate with her or give her airtime anymore.

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She is infatuated with Nicholas II and religion, peddling claims that new bust of Nicholas II (who and whose family were executed by Bolshevicks) "shed tears".

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"find this broad a man"

Is there any Church that's not ridiculously corrupt? Catholics are pedos and Protestants need no introduction.
 
Is there any Church that's not ridiculously corrupt? Catholics are pedos and Protestants need no introduction.

for all the social problems that the moscow patriarchate has, it is the generator of humane missions and missionology. look at how the protestants evangelized alaska vs how the russians did it.


antioch in america is pretty swell, they have all english liturgies in various cities.
 
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I'd say that there is enough material for a subforum with threads dedicated to specific categories of events.

You forgot to mention them demanding real estate from museums, universities, etc. claiming it's "church property". Saint Isaac's Cathedral being the most famous, but far from the only one. Or that Yekaterinburg square. Or that Academy of Marine Biology. Or...
 
Is there any Church that's not ridiculously corrupt? Catholics are pedos and Protestants need no introduction.

Not to the extent of ROC. Even in their hey day of Borgias, Catholics can't hold the candle to the ROC today.

After 1917, all church structures were under complete KGB control. KGB actively and specifically recruited into ranks of church degenerates, pedos and fuck ups as means to undermine whatever was left of religion and faith. This was a codified policy that's documented in public domain. Every single priest was either KGB CI or outright officer. This monstrosity that was fostered for over 100 years is current ROC. All the leadership are the product that have not changed with the collapse of the Soviet Union.

We are getting back to the Tsarist (pre 1917) times when ruling class was directly tied to the church and church blessed any and every thing that ruling class did. During the Soviet Union time, religion was downplayed and kept in the shadows (because we worshiped a different state religion) Now it's prominent again. Its ties to KGB are unbroken. During the Soviet years, any critics of the church abroad were hunted. There are many who were poisoned or disappeared. I am talking about people some of whom physically lived in US. Now religion is once again takes center stage with the ruling class, but mechanisms of influence power-church are unbroken. They mutated into codified relationship during the Soviet times, now they are being leveraged into helping oppressive machine openly again.
 
I don't even know where to begin, but at some point I would have to explain the absolute state of the Russian Orthodox Church.
There's as much spirituality in this abomination as there is in Epstein's NY townhouse.

Anyone who falls for this is an idiot.
So, a subhuman vodka-goblin?
Hitler had the right idea about Slavs.
TL;DR the article is 'Putin 200 IQ 4D chess master who will save civilization from da globohomos and not a petty dictator ruling over a mafia state' agiprop.
 
It's a beautiful (in it's own way) building with very creative and innovative design. The 40k is very strong but it actually looks quintessentially Militaristic and more importantly it looks Russian.

That said....It doesn't look Christian. For sure, there are icons and crosses but a Church is supposed to glorify God, not humans no matter how noble their calling. Even a church dedicated to a particular saint, the focus remains solely upon the deity. The focus in that building is on the military, and modelling the theotokos after Putin's whore? Hilarious.

A wonderful Militaristic monument, but a failure as a church.
 
Start with Rus builds cathedrals and churches that remain empty because the population is culturally orthodox not practicing and then go on from there: " you can see the fsb/kgb laurels under the priest's cassock" complaints; Patriarch Kirill owns a lot of luxury goods which were "gifted" to him.

Further down the list is the conflict between soviet era- diaspora jurisidictions in the USA (rocor and GOA although i've read that this has ameliorated over the last decade) and the Russian church; the blessing of military equipment and the like, toll houses.
One could complain about the Russia tanking the "ecumenical council" that happened a few years ago, depending on framing.
The rate of religious practice is said to be really low, a low single per cent, something akin to places deemed 'post Catholic' or similar like Belgium.

Is there any Church that's not ridiculously corrupt? Catholics are pedos and Protestants need no introduction.
Pals of Francis like Grassi are nonces, but he's essentially the head and avatar of the counterfeit church, not the Catholic Church. Noncing really became a thing, post V2, after desperate and ill disciplined seminaries took any half sane degenerate. The Anglicans in Australia, whose clergy are mainly married, have a vast number of pedo claims. Clerics anywhere, without supervision, draw the socially skilled among the depraved, those sniffing after money, man love or youngsters.
 
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Not to the extent of ROC. Even in their hey day of Borgias, Catholics can't hold the candle to the ROC today.

After 1917, all church structures were under complete KGB control. KGB actively and specifically recruited into ranks of church degenerates, pedos and fuck ups as means to undermine whatever was left of religion and faith. This was a codified policy that's documented in public domain. Every single priest was either KGB CI or outright officer. This monstrosity that was fostered for over 100 years is current ROC. All the leadership are the product that have not changed with the collapse of the Soviet Union.

We are getting back to the Tsarist (pre 1917) times when ruling class was directly tied to the church and church blessed any and every thing that ruling class did. During the Soviet Union time, religion was downplayed and kept in the shadows (because we worshiped a different state religion) Now it's prominent again. Its ties to KGB are unbroken. During the Soviet years, any critics of the church abroad were hunted. There are many who were poisoned or disappeared. I am talking about people some of whom physically lived in US. Now religion is once again takes center stage with the ruling class, but mechanisms of influence power-church are unbroken. They mutated into codified relationship during the Soviet times, now they are being leveraged into helping oppressive machine openly again.

what of the russian monastics?
 
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