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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46188790

Agreement is finally in Number 10's grasp.

The text that's taken months of officials' blood, sweat and tears has been agreed, at least at a technical level.

Now a paper's being drafted to present to the Cabinet tomorrow ready for the government's hoped-for next step - political approval from Theresa May's team, even though many of them have deep reservations.

Remember in the last 24 hours some of them have been warning privately that what's on the table is just not acceptable, and will never get through Parliament. Some even believe the prime minister ought to walk away.

But the government machine is now cranking into action. With a text ready, their long-planned rollout can begin.
The BBC's chief political correspondent Vicki Young said some ministers had "deep concerns" about the shape of the likely agreement, which critics say could leave the UK trapped in a customs agreement with the EU.

She said they would have to decide whether they could support it, and if not, whether to resign from cabinet.

Leading Brexiteers have already condemned the draft agreement, Boris Johnson saying it would see the UK remain in the customs union and "large parts" of the single market.

He told the BBC it was "utterly unacceptable to anyone who believes in democracy". "Am I going to vote against it. The answer is yes," he added.

And Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said "given the shambolic nature of the negotiations, this is unlikely to be the good deal for the country".

'Failure to deliver'
Both the UK and EU want to schedule a special summit of European leaders at the end of November to sign off the reportedly 500 page withdrawal deal and the much shorter outline declaration of their future relationship.

Brussels has insisted it would only agree to put the wheels in motion for the summit if agreement can be reached on the issue of the Irish border.

Ambassadors from the remaining 27 EU states will meet in Brussels on Wednesday.

If a deal is agreed with the EU, Mrs May then needs to persuade her party - and the rest of Parliament - to support it in a key Commons vote.

Conservative Brexiteer Jacob Rees-Mogg said if details of the text reported by Irish broadcaster RTE were true, the UK would become a "vassal state" with Northern Ireland "being ruled from Dublin".

Such an agreement "failed to deliver on Brexit" and the cabinet should reject it, he told the BBC.

"I think what we know of this deal is deeply unsatisfactory," he said. "There seems to be growing opposition to these very poor proposals."

Meanwhile, following pressure from all sides of the Commons, ministers have agreed to provide MPs with a legal assessment of the implications for the UK of the Irish backstop and other controversial aspects of any deal.

Cabinet Office minister David Lidington said Attorney General Geoffrey Cox would make a statement to MPs and take questions ahead of the final vote on any Brexit deal.

MPs, he said, would get to see "a full reasoned position statement laying out the government's both political and also legal position on the proposed withdrawal agreement".

The Democratic Unionists' Westminster leader Nigel Dodds said he was pleased Parliament had "asserted its will" as it was imperative that all parties to the deal were clear in what way and for how long it would "legally bind" the UK.

Chequers minus it is. Whatever happened to no deal being better than a bad deal.

We should have been far more aggressive in negotiations with Brussels. They all but stated immediately after the referendum that they were going to bumrape us for having the temerity to leave, so we should have told them that unless and until they got serious, we'd basically go full on tax haven mode and steal all their big companies - and funnel money and support to Eurosceptics in Italy, Spain, Greece, Poland, and Hungary.
 
My favourite bit of Enfield trivia is that was the stepfather of young Lily and Alfie Allen and adopted their mannerisms wholesale for Kevin The Teenager and his mate Perry.
 
My favourite bit of Enfield trivia is that was the stepfather of young Lily and Alfie Allen and adopted their mannerisms wholesale for Kevin The Teenager and his mate Perry.

I thought it was Harry and Lulu that were based on Lily and Alfie Allen?
 
I thought it was Harry and Lulu that were based on Lily and Alfie Allen?

Wait, really? I remember reading it was Kevin and Perry. Harry and Lulu would also be hilarious
 
Wait, really? I remember reading it was Kevin and Perry. Harry and Lulu would also be hilarious

Yeah that's what I heard anyway.

Kevin and Perry were just stereotypical stroppy teenagers.
 
So we now have 24 hour security protecting the statue of Robert Baden-Powell, the founder of the scouts, while the BBC opines on if he was a supporter of Hitler. At least the council are standing strong on protecting the statue rather than cucking out. We have at least one troon cow from Pool on the farms so I'm going to check for some milk just checked, nope will post any that results though.
 
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Sorry to double post but a day has elapsed and this is a different topic.

Labour MPs decided to tell essentially Priti Patel they were revoking her POC card.

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She quite eloquently told them to fuck off

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Guz Khan also decided it was a good time to make what looks very much like a racists attack on her

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A lot of people have told him to fuck off with that but some of the usual lot are defending it because she's a conservative and of course the BBC (his employer) are refusing to comment. I wonder if the same would have happened with a "rice and beans" comment with a picture of Dianne Abbott?
 
Sorry to double post but a day has elapsed and this is a different topic.

Labour MPs decided to tell essentially Priti Patel they were revoking her POC card.

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She quite eloquently told them to fuck off

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Guz Khan also decided it was a good time to make what looks very much like a racists attack on her

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A lot of people have told him to fuck off with that but some of the usual lot are defending it because she's a conservative and of course the BBC (his employer) are refusing to comment. I wonder if the same would have happened with a "rice and beans" comment with a picture of Dianne Abbott?

Wasn't Naz Shah the bitch that suggested the victims of Pakistani Muslim Rape gangs should just shut up?
 
Wasn't Naz Shah the bitch that suggested the victims of Pakistani Muslim Rape gangs should just shut up?

Yes, the vile creature got away with it scot-free, and has the audacity to lecture other people on what is good and righteous.
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Labour doesn't like to when minorities vote Tory (or Libdem for that matter), they are meant to vote as a monolithic bloc, not have their own interests and opinions.
The Only thing Shah deserves is the rope, nevermind a seat in parliament.

Edit: I recall that quite a number of Labour MP's and affiliated council members covered up for the grooming scandal (or profited from it) hand-in-hand with the police, in numerous towns and cities, yet none have gotten in trouble for it.
Absolutely disgraceful.
 
Yes, the vile creature got away with it scot-free, and has the audacity to lecture other people on what is good and righteous.
Even better, the Tweet she liked was from an Owen Jones parody account.

She apologised and said it was a “mistake” (what? The liking the tweet part or the liking it from a parody account part?), but then said writing articles reporting on the rape gangs was “irresponsible”.
 
Even better, the Tweet she liked was from an Owen Jones parody account.

She apologised and said it was a “mistake” (what? The liking the tweet part or the liking it from a parody account part?), but then said writing articles reporting on the rape gangs was “irresponsible”.

A parody account that has a direct line to his thoughts, the man is too much of a coward too ever come out and say it, but we all know that wretched rat is thinking it.
Didn't it come out that he hasn't worked a real job his entire (young) life? As soon as he left university he started writing leftie books (and for the Guardian), the man larps as one of the revolutionary proletariats when the most dirt he's ever got on his M&S shirt has been when he's tending to his allotment.
 
I dunno about you, but we need to make a list of TV programmes and films made in Britain that will be deemed "problematic" and start torrenting them furiously before they are memory holed.


- Fawlty Towers (the episode The Germans, specifically; it has the "wogs vs. niggers" segment from the Major, and the "You, a doctor? A real one?" from Basil which will be verboten even though the joke is on the Major's and Basil's museum-piece prejudice even by 70s standards)

Well we have a "winner", almost like these people are predictable.

Also the media are now preemptively casting the protests this weekend as the far right causing trouble.
 
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Patel is enough of a scumbag cunt without stooping to throw racial slurs at her. If you want to remove identity based slurs from public life, you have to start with your own discourse.
 
Patel is enough of a scumbag cunt without stooping to throw racial slurs at her. If you want to remove identity based slurs from public life, you have to start with your own discourse.

It's no surprise that the second the left come up against a poc not towing the line they resort to racial slurs though, just like they throw misogynistic abuse at women and homophobic abuse at any of the alphabet people not towing the line. It's almost as if the far left are actually intolerant scum and projecting their bigotry.
 
Labour MPs decided to tell essentially Priti Patel they were revoking her POC card.

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She quite eloquently told them to fuck off

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This is why your main argument against anything being, "You don't have a right to speak on this" doesn't work very well. The moment the person on the other side is also a member of the oppressed group, you don't have a leg to stand on, so in this case, you end up doing some bizarre dance of yelling about how the voices of POC need to be heard while also suppressing the voices of POC.

I don't like Priti, but you don't get to tell her she's not allowed to have a voice. Growing up brown in Britain when she did was hard. Living in Britain today when you're brown is hard. The shit that got thrown and still gets thrown at brown people where I grew up is unbelievable. You don't get to take that away because you don't agree with her.

Also, I'm sure those who are Indian and swung to Conservative because they felt ignored by Labour will be thrilled to see so many Labour MPs telling our Gujarati Home Secretary she doesn't get to speak on race issues. Thrilled.
 
This is why your main argument against anything being, "You don't have a right to speak on this" doesn't work very well. The moment the person on the other side is also a member of the oppressed group, you don't have a leg to stand on, so in this case, you end up doing some bizarre dance of yelling about how the voices of POC need to be heard while also suppressing the voices of POC.

I don't like Priti, but you don't get to tell her she's not allowed to have a voice. Growing up brown in Britain when she did was hard. Living in Britain today when you're brown is hard. The shit that got thrown and still gets thrown at brown people where I grew up is unbelievable. You don't get to take that away because you don't agree with her.

Also, I'm sure those who are Indian and swung to Conservative because they felt ignored by Labour will be thrilled to see so many Labour MPs telling our Gujarati Home Secretary she doesn't get to speak on race issues. Thrilled.

Yep. You don’t get to make her Ugandan background part of the reason she isn’t a good Home Secretary. Theresa May was a poor Home Secretary because she was bad at her job. Johnson was worse. That wasn’t because they were wypipo. Patel is just bad at her job. This isn’t a result of her ethnicity or gender, it’s a result of her personality and intellect. Her job performance is fair game. Her identity isn’t. The issue with Patel is not that she’s a POC, it’s that she’s a POS.

I especially hate the argument that she should “be more understanding” of Black issues in her brief because she herself is a POC. Nothing in her career suggests the capacity for much understanding of any social group apart from tobacco lobbyists. Why would Black folk be different? Why would an East African Asian have a greater insight into Black problems than another person who isn’t Black? Why would she have a greater understanding of Black migration to England than she has of Irish migration?

Telling the brown folks they should/must be on the black folks’ side carries the highly unsubtle implication that brown folks don’t belong with white folks, and by god do I not like that argument. Because there’s some heavy fucking racism in there. I can also do without racism being whitesplained to the brown woman.
 
Sorry to double post but a day has elapsed and this is a different topic.

Labour MPs decided to tell essentially Priti Patel they were revoking her POC card.

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She quite eloquently told them to fuck off

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Guz Khan also decided it was a good time to make what looks very much like a racists attack on her

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A lot of people have told him to fuck off with that but some of the usual lot are defending it because she's a conservative and of course the BBC (his employer) are refusing to comment. I wonder if the same would have happened with a "rice and beans" comment with a picture of Dianne Abbott?

"Being a person of colour does not make you an authority on all forms of racism".

Crikey, if ONLY they would actually follow this logic through consistently, I might actually support them!
 
Didn't it come out that he hasn't worked a real job his entire (young) life? As soon as he left university he started writing leftie books (and for the Guardian), the man larps as one of the revolutionary proletariats when the most dirt he's ever got on his M&S shirt has been when he's tending to his allotment.

Gieves & Hawkes, surely. Owen's too well off to shop at a normie store like that.

But, yeah, that's him all over.

As for Priti Patel, lefties really hate her. As a British Asian she's supposed to be one of them because they're allies. Also in 2014 she got shrieked at for being a junior minister while having previously written in support of capital punishment.

Speaking of Fawlty Towers, Basil himself is taking pot shots at the BBC:

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I'm just glad I haven't paid my TV loicense since 2016.
 
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