That Umbrella Guy / TUG / Matthew Lewis - YouTuber, ComicsGate Supporter, "Fights the SJWS," Drama Whore

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Smug Freiza said:
The individual in question claimed to have her dox and was going to use it, they implied if SWC didn't shut off the stream they would release it. It was either a genuine threat, or a pointless bluff.
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Well, did they shut down the stream or not?

Smug Freiza said:
I also find Vikki's content well researched and quite informative also, especially her Ribbit Coin video.
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How many times do you need to told that Ethan did not commit any fraud with the coins? He got the company who made the coins to give refunds to all the backers for false advertisement, plus they get to keep the coins also! What more do you people want from Ethan?!

Smug Freiza said:
Why do you defend TUG?
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Because TUG didn't do anything wrong. The accusations come from crazy assholes.

Now that I think about: If y'all believe Matt is lying about his daughter being threatened, then how come you believe SJW Captain America when accused TUG of taking a picture of his son? Where's his evidence?
 
Grimm said:
And to clarify about my joke about Preston's daughter seeing Preston being pegged, it was meant to point out that how farther CG & WC could go to mock Anti-CG like Little PP but chose not to. They have standards, Poulter doesn't.
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Interesting uses of the word "joke" and "mock" given the absence of humor. Very revealing. Reading through your posts, I note the total absence of standards, not just moral ones but even basic definitions of words or even the attribution what deeds were actually committed and by whom. Your "joke" made the argument that Preston Poulter's daughter should be targeted to "mock" Preston with, the justification for doing so being SWC calling out Mailbox Matt out for hiding behind his daughter, which Matty responded by doing exactly what they said he does, going off your complete internalization of his disingenuous argument that what they said was a "murder fantasy".

I suppose it's to be expected from someone who gets his information in the form of manipulative vagueries from a youtube grifter. Mailbox Matt Lewis thinks nothing about his critics being attacked for deeds they had no part in by his supporters who he deliberately misleads with vague and repetitive babble. He "has no eeemppaatthhyy" (read: moral standard) for them, sure. But he has no empathy for you either, the willingly used.

Grimm said:
Now that I think about: If y'all believe Matt is lying about his daughter being threatened, then how come you believe SJW Captain America when accused TUG of taking a picture of his son? Where's his evidence?
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Severe credibility deficit on TUG's part, as shown by your own inept argumentation regarding SWC's video as evidence of such threats and how actions against Preston Poulter were justified because of it. "SJW Captain America" by contrast had the precedent of Ashley and Matt's established low character, and buttressed by the fact that confronting Ashley about the account resulted in the pictures being taken down within the hour.
 
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Smug Freiza said:
Intermission
Several hours ago Youtuber and Kiwifarm's own @VIkkiVerse uploaded a video to youtube detailing the contents of this thread, the video appears to have been struck with a privacy violation.

The video in question can be found below, unedited:
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Mister Dongs said:
Interesting uses of the word "joke" and "mock" given the absence of humor. Very revealing. Reading through your posts, I note the total absence of standards, not just moral ones but even basic definitions of words or even the attribution what deeds were actually committed and by whom. Your "joke" made the argument that Preston Poulter's daughter should be targeted to "mock" Preston with, the justification for doing so being SWC calling out Mailbox Matt out for hiding behind his daughter, which Matty responded by doing exactly what they said he does, going off your complete internalization of his disingenuous argument that what they said was a "murder fantasy".

I suppose it's to be expected from someone who gets his information in the form of manipulative vagueries from a youtube grifter. Mailbox Matt Lewis thinks nothing about his critics being attacked for deeds they had no part in by his supporters who he deliberately misleads with vague and repetitive babble. He "has no eeemppaatthhyy" (read: moral standard) for them, sure. But he has no empathy for you either, the willingly used.

Severe credibility deficit on TUG's part, as shown by your own inept argumentation regarding SWC's video as evidence of such threats and how actions against Preston Poulter were justified because of it. "SJW Captain America" by contrast had the precedent of Ashley and Matt's established low character, and buttressed by the fact that confronting Ashley about the account resulted in the pictures being taken down within the hour.
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So your just going to accept the word from a man who chases after cosplay thot Dominique Sky, when he's already married to another woman? Where's his proof of Matt & Ashley taking picture of SJW Captain America's son? Motherfucker delets his old Tweets. Also, what about the boy's mother? Why isn't she included in all this since it's her child too?

Fuck, how do you even know if SJW Captain America is being honest about having a son?

Mister Dongs said:
Interesting uses of the word "joke" and "mock" given the absence of humor. Very revealing. Reading through your posts, I note the total absence of standards, not just moral ones but even basic definitions of words or even the attribution what deeds were actually committed and by whom. Your "joke" made the argument that Preston Poulter's daughter should be targeted to "mock" Preston with, the justification for doing so being SWC calling out Mailbox Matt out for hiding behind his daughter, which Matty responded by doing exactly what they said he does, going off your complete internalization of his disingenuous argument that what they said was a "murder fantasy".
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Translation: "Rules for thee, None for me"

Thomas: "...us making fun of his dumb daughter and saying she was a gaywad or whatever..."
 
Grimm said:
I guess Peggy Poulter didn't seem to care about his daughter's safety by the looks of this. I'm actually surprised that War Campaign, to my knowledge, hasn't found these yet. Y'all seem to "care" about Matt's children's well-being, but seem to not noticed how Preston is a little careless about his own child.
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Oh dear me, I wonder what would Preston's daughter's reaction would discover one of daddy's home-made movies?
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But she's not being whore out for "muh cultur wa" like Matt does. Like Preston post about his daughter who's an teenager/young adult like 4 times than tug's daughter who is 6 years old. If your kid is a infant or in prek to junior high shouldn't even be on the internet. People get on mba for having his 8/10 year old kids saying profanity online in his videos so don't like little tug is the only one who gets hate. If you have a young kid and your using them for views you'll be ridiculed.

Grimm said:
I gotta ask, how is letting a little girl tell silly stories about lamas on her father's live-streams "grifting"?
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Constantly telling your kid about the "es jay dubbas" and having her self insert behead renfamous is pretty fucking creepy.

Analog Devolved said:
It looks like 9 faggots have paid $300 to "be drawn into the book" lmao
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GGGGGGAAAAAYYYYYYY. 9 people really paid to be in a shitty book? You could've gotten the ps5.

Grimm said:
So what about VikkiVerse using Kiwi Farms to humiliate Sheila in petty revenge for revealing Peggy's porn on YouTube? Don't you consider that to be trolling? What's stopping Sheila's family from ever finding out Vikki's video?
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She shouldn't be a prostitute like Preston shouldn't be doing cuck porn. Vikki didn't find out her being a call girl someone on the farms did. Sex workers don't deserve rights🤷🏻‍♂️if her family finds out Sheila is a whore then they can disown her.
 
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Grimm said:
So your just going to accept the word from a man who chases after cosplay thot Dominique Sky, when he's already married to another woman? Where's his proof of Matt & Ashley taking picture of SJW Captain America's son?
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Proof is tendered in confronting Ashley in a DM over posting pictures of his children resulted in the photos being taken down immediately. If Ashley wasn't the person who did it, how would the person responsible even know?

Translation: "Rules for thee, None for me"
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Outside of your weak gish-galloping, it appears you've stopped trying to contest my contention that you have no standards. You've yet to explain how Preston is responsible for SWC calling TUG's shield "a gaywad" (pivoting from your previous claim of "murder fantasy"). If Mailbox Matt actually had eeeemmmpatthhhy for you, he wouldn't have sent you out into the world filled with such easily debunked falsehoods and filmsy arguments.
 
Tinfoil hat mode: @Grimm did TUG send you here to distract us from whatever else he's trying to do? Like maybe trying to sabotage Doug TenApples' new campaign? Blink once if yes, blink twice if yes, don't blink if yes, and blink anyways if yes.
 
5t3n0g0ph3r said:
Not sure about that.
I'm willing to believe @spirit of e m o s h because he's been consistent in his conduct.
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Appreciate it.
Though this stuff doesn't really bother me I think had a lot of this stuff come out in the open a year ago it would have a lot more of an impact.
When I saw all of this stuff & compared it to my issue with him, all I could think to myself is "ahhh he's one of those."
I think a lot of the exposes tend to help people like him more mainly because they're coming from entities that the general viewer or fan just won't take seriously. (myself included I suppose.)
 
spirit of e m o s h said:
Appreciate it.
Though this stuff doesn't really bother me I think had a lot of this stuff come out in the open a year ago it would have a lot more of an impact.
When I saw all of this stuff & compared it to my issue with him, all I could think to myself is "ahhh he's one of those."
I think a lot of the exposes tend to help people like him more mainly because they're coming from entities that the general viewer or fan just won't take seriously. (myself included I suppose.)
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A lot of this was rumored on, with some evidence supporting the accusations. People didn't want to believe it at the time because the legal case was getting started, and people were nervous about causing division within the ISWV community. People like TUG bank on that indecision and fear in order to hide and get away with their crap, and by the time people sit down and look at what's going on it's either too late, or people are unwilling to consider that they were wrong on someone to begin with. At most what might have happened is TUG leaves the ISWV sphere earlier than he did because he burned his bridges, but he probably would have also started shitting things up by talking about the anti-CG people who kicked him out of this little corner of the internet over "nothing".
 
This thread is pure autism, I'm away for two weeks from this thread and pure chaos is spreading, you should do a thread and move these debates there.
You guys are arguing with a contrarian, no problem there, but no one wants to read 9 pages about it, it's just too long.
Everyone who wants to inform themselves about TUG is deterred to read the thread.
Maybe this is one of his goals, idk.


Smug Freiza said:
The fact of the matter is, that this thread is not about Preston or Vikki and we are getting off-topic. Lets just agree to disagree on all that previous conversation.
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Thank you.

To add something to the thread.
A few days ago, TUG claimed that Dean/DA Talks called Crow's fiance an ape, of course without proof, like most of the times.
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The tweet TUG quoted is Dean's brother Andrew who's sucking TUG and YF's balls, and CG in general.
The dynamic between the two brothers is rather weird, it all started with drama surrounding Gothic Sushi, but I would have to derail the thread for Pages to cover everything properly, but the best and shortest explanation for me would be that Andrew backstabbed his brother for clout.

Ok, I should address the issue with Andrew's(@CCrowe90) post and why TUG is talking out of his ass again.
Before someone is claiming I talk shit.
without going into the details and whether the statement is true in this tweet, his brother never said that Dean said ape.
TUG just wanted something to go after the guy who exposed him and his lies.
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Here's the song in question.
It has one line which is comparing Andrew's fiance to an ape.
The rest is completely unrelated to the fiance.
The song is a diss track against Gothic Sushi and her crew.
It should be obvious that Don Udon is not Dean.

Also Crow, where's your expose video on DA Talks, we are waiting already for like 2 months.
 
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So the same day Matt Tweets this:
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(I apologize for a lack of a link or archive, but TUG being TUG, he deleted it.)

I received this:
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The 3rd privacy complaint Matt and Ashley have filed on my video.
 
Being late and gay, TUG made a video regarding the San Japan con owner's recent tweet:

This comes at the heels of a recent stream he did on the topic:
 
CumFartingBobby said:
TUG hates black people, he let his wife cat fish that dude and leave him stranded in Tennessee. Im sure that would make a great video in Matthews style of youtubing. You know he has no mp3s for these people or whatever he says.
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Honestly, if you get me this guy's contact information I wouldn't mind talking to him about this. It's been something at the back of my mind for a bit and I figure now's a good time to do so.
 
Spectre_06 said:
Honestly, if you get me this guy's contact information I wouldn't mind talking to him about this. It's been something at the back of my mind for a bit and I figure now's a good time to do so.
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I recommend you don't. You're a big boy, so do as you like, but why even bother with this?
 
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