🐮 Lolcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / Russell Greee / Russle / Brothel Prince / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

[drain]

Given that the quality of things Swift received weren't all that great, the bar was set low to impress her

This right here sums up the type of person Russel is to a T. He blamed SongCat (the music production company) for the 'bad quality' of his song, when everyone and their mom know the true culprit behind that shitty job. (Hint: it's Russ and Russ alone).
After that he ranted about being poor and unable to pay other company to redo his song, so he sends the one he already had, saying what I quoted above.

He's literally saying that fan gifts of CHILDREN (who didn't expect anything in return, only to make TS happy) are bad quality and it set the bar for gifts low. Man, I can't even begin to talk about how vile and narcissistic this shit right here is. He's blaming everything under the damn sun minus himself, and he does it so naturally that for an outsider, this stuff just blows the mind, you know?
I'm speechless.

 

[Sam Losco]

If he's going to say "and/or" he should reverse Swift and Defendant. He's not (or maybe he will) going to refer to her as "Swift Defendant" which would be the "and" use of both.

Lol, still salty about that. Also, the court doesn't care that you were upset with the product and couldn't get a refund. Not relevant to you suing Taylor.

Russ, the difference, and I know this has been said before, is that those were all already HER music. Her IP. What you were trying to give was not and to avoid any lawsuits from future songs sounding like what you gave (which would never happen anyway), she can't listen to what you made. If you have made a compilation of her songs, they would have accepted it.

She probably was bothered by how you look and talk, but that's not why Greg said she was. Greg said that because you were suing her and said some nasty shit about her mom (if I'm getting the timeline right).

So, for once, the media actually showed the truth.

LOL, a pack of killer wasps? Do you mean killer bees, Russ?

I'm going to ignore the shitty sentences in 52 for something more out of place. The switch between the different forms of past tense between those two sections is jarring.

LOL X to Doubt

lol

 

[DrJonesHat]

He was expecting something in return. so it wasn't a gift. You can reject gifts for any reason, and since this was sent with the intention of getting something in return, she was even more free to reject it since it would (hypothetically) impose an obligation on her.

Russ, the difference, and I know this has been said before, is that those were all already HER music. Her IP. What you were trying to give was not and to avoid any lawsuits from future songs sounding like what you gave (which would never happen anyway), she can't listen to what you made. If you have made a compilation of her songs, they would have accepted it.

Even if she did accept unsolicited music, she's free to choose what she accepts. Someone at the beginning of the thread said Russ is essentially arguing that if I give a homeless guy a dollar, all other homeless guys in America can sue me for a dollar. Obviously it doesn't work like that, and neither does accepting gifts.

 

[talk talk talk]

I half hope that Russ will be able to get personal service on Tay Tay and survive a motion to dismiss because his deposition will be glorious.

 

[Battlecruiser3000ad]

Shine on you crazy traumalumped diamond, third time's the charm.
On which trivial step will our paralegal stud stumble this time?

 

[GloriousScarf]

It's important to know this difference because if he was just trying to get her to do his song and they cited unsolicited policies, Greer would have accepted that and moved on with his life.

Would Greer have accepted that though? I don't think so.

The best part:

Greer has lost family relationships, friend connections and business connections because of the trauma of Taylor Swift. His family tells him to "get over it," resulting in shouting matches and strained relationships. Greer's friends get annoyed by his focusing on the trauma of it, when nobody knows the pain of getting rejected by a public figure — twice — and the fallout that has resulted from it. Greer lost a connection with his publicist because of the 2019 event with Swift. Greer's own flesh and blood want nothing to do with him, thinking of him as deranged. To simply say, "'get over it," is very hurtful and ignorant to what has happened.

 

[Hollywood Hitler]

Russ is the type of guy who would keep slamming his dick in a door and wonder why he's pissing blood, shrug his shoulders, and then continue to keep slamming the door.

Russ, if you get butthurt because a celebrity ignores your gift (which in this case your song wasn't a gift because you demanded to have a date with her) that's on you. She doesn't owe you shit. All your evidence proves is that Taylor Swift is famous and does nice things for SOME of her fans, and that you're an obsessed stalker who is also tard. No judge in the world would look at your complaint and evidence, and say that you have a case. Why do you think no lawyer would take your case? Spoiler Alert: It's not because there's a conspiracy to keep you away from Taylor Swift.

 

[WhaleOilBeefHooked]

Just another sleepless night seething over Taylor Swift

It's such a fascinating thing to think about. If he's up at 5 AM still bitter about Taylor Swift (who, let's not forget, did nothing to him and doesn't know he even exists) after all this time that probably means he has sleepless nights like this a lot. It's been years since he first tried to "woo" her, years since he was called "invasive and troubling" and it's still a fresh wound for him. He's an almost 30 year old man who has ruined his own life and relationships in a totally self-serving fame quest, rejected everyone who ever cared about him, and never even got close to his goals. Hell, he never even got off the ground. He's kept up at night not by regret for his actions, but out of bitterness that everyone involved didn't instantly drop everything in their lives to accommodate his outlandish demands. It's almost depressing to see a man so obsessed with someone who will never even know his name. The fact that he's preparing another lawsuit shows that he was probably planning this the second he lost his other lawsuits, especially since we know he was planning his second TS lawsuit right after he lost the first one. Taylor lives rent free in Russell's head, no doubt.

Edit: I just started reading this thing and WOW.

22. That. Doesn't. Fucking. Matter. He's had it explained to him so many times and he still refuses to process that they can't accept songs, even as gifts.
23. "if he was just trying to get her to do his song and they cited unsolicited policies, Greer would have accepted that and moved on with his life." The fact that you're filing a lawsuit about not getting your way 4 fucking years later begs to differ. And you WERE trying to get her to do your music, Russ. You said so yourself.
"he felt it unfair that he invested that and was not able to show her." He mentions this because he thinks it matters. It doesn't. It's not unfair because this rule applies to everyone else as well. The fact that you feel very strongly about something has no effect on the rules. You can't sue someone for giving you the wrong impression.
24. "Schaudies never mentioned anything about the gift, thus reinforcing his cluelessness." Oh, the irony of Russell Fucking Greer calling someone else clueless. The fact that he put the word "cluelessness" in a legal document reinforces Russell's cluelessness.

This may be the most telling lawsuit out of all of them because it shows us that years later and despite multiple legal professionals telling him he's wrong, he still hasn't learned a fucking thing. These are the exact same points he has brought up so many times before. It's like a Russell's Greatest Hits collection. It's so damn funny how he has explained his insane thought process in such detail so many, and doesn't see how it makes him sound like a total psychopath.

 

[WhaleOilBeefHooked]

I love how he keeps putting words into bold and italics, like he's explaining it in anger. You just know he wrote this while fuming.

WHY DON'T THEY GET IT? I'VE EXPLAINED IT SO MANY TIMES! Also, none of these things he mentioned are Taylor accepting other people's songs. They're hers. All these years later and he still doesn't understand the policy that he thinks ruined his life.

 

[DrJonesHat]

Fuck it, do it without Sriracha. She doesn't add enough for me to justify never talking about Russ again.

Who is she and why is she such a big deal?


I think the funniest thing about this lawsuit is that Russ doesn't realize he shows he has no case in his own filing. All the negative results from his reaction to being told no are his doing. TS had nothing to do with that. If he'd just accepted that music stars can't accept unsolicited music, he wouldn't have a thread here. I find it amusing (and very in-character for him) that he can't understand why TS accepted covers of her own songs and not his original song. He really can't detect nuance at all. Should we start a betting pool on whether or not he even serves this suit? I'd actually be slightly impressed if he manages that.

 

[GethN7]

I know it's not completely likely, but if this gets him officially declared a vexatious litigant finally, I will horse laugh for half an hour straight.

It's pretty clear from his past history and the derangement in this current screed he sees the court as nothing more than his personal cudgel, and ever time they denied him, he just ramped up the crazy from last time, and I'm sure the Utah court system must be pretty weary of this guy by now.

 

[Disgruntled Pupper]

This is the little cherry on the top of the content sundae of the past week.

I REALLY want to know more about this "Alvin" the publicist and friend-of Taylor "Toderick Hall". I can't decide what would be more hilarious- that two idiots burned their connections for Russel, or that Russel was taken on an extensive ruse cruise and for it to come out in court that it was all fake.

 

[DrJonesHat]

This is the little cherry on the top of the content sundae of the past week.

I REALLY want to know more about this "Alvin" the publicist and friend-of Taylor "Toderick Hall". I can't decide what would be more hilarious- that two idiots burned their connections for Russel, or that Russel was taken on an extensive ruse cruise and for it to come out in court that it was all fake.

You'd think he'd use the C&D letter as some sort evidence that Taylor Swift is the living incarnation of Satan like he does everything else. If he didn't get one, can he get in trouble since he uses the claim her lawyers sent him one as the basis for this suit?

 

[Disgruntled Pupper]

You'd think he'd use the C&D letter as some sort evidence that Taylor Swift is the living incarnation of Satan like he does everything else. If he didn't get one, can he get in trouble since he uses the claim her lawyers sent him one as the basis for this suit?

I haven't had a chance to read through everything, but maybe it's in there somewhere? If not, that's very weird.

I would imagine not, I think it was Rackets who said that it's very hard to get someone in trouble for lying in court because they purposefully don't go after people who do so unless it's flagrant and outrageous and saying "I don't remember/I misunderstood" is kind of the ultimate defense in such a scenario.

 

[cogsworth]

I haven't had a chance to read through everything, but maybe it's in there somewhere? If not, that's very weird.

I would imagine not, I think it was Rackets who said that it's very hard to get someone in trouble for lying in court because they purposefully don't go after people who do so unless it's flagrant and outrageous and saying "I don't remember/I misunderstood" is kind of the ultimate defense in such a scenario.

That's for when you're being questioned, not (so far as I understand) for falsifying evidence and knowingly lying about events. For example, you can be charged for saying you were witness to an event when you weren't.

 

[DrJonesHat]

I looked over his "exhibits", and there's no C&D letter in there. It's the same level of "evidence" he had at the AG trial. He posts his unemployment status for some reason, and the letter he posted about having his lease terminated. I guess that's to show TS ruined his life? But of course it doesn't show that. He posts the document from his therapist, but removed the "r/o" from the line about PTSD. All in all, it's a bunch of random shit that I'm sure he thinks are all smoking guns, but in fact prove nothing other than he has trouble keeping jobs and places to live.

 

[Disgruntled Pupper]

I looked over his "exhibits", and there's no C&D letter in there. It's the same level of "evidence" he had at the AG trial. He posts his unemployment status for some reason, and the letter he posted about having his lease terminated. I guess that's to show TS ruined his life? But of course it doesn't show that. He posts the document from his therapist, but removed the "r/o" from the line about PTSD. All in all, it's a bunch of random shit that I'm sure he thinks are all smoking guns, but in fact prove nothing other than he has trouble keeping jobs and places to live.

Very interesting. This bit about the therapy documents is now at the top of my list of shit I want to see play out in court. If he's flat out lying and forging stuff I hope Skordas sniffs it out and hammers him with it.

 

[cogsworth]

I looked over his "exhibits", and there's no C&D letter in there. It's the same level of "evidence" he had at the AG trial. He posts his unemployment status for some reason, and the letter he posted about having his lease terminated. I guess that's to show TS ruined his life? But of course it doesn't show that. He posts the document from his therapist, but removed the "r/o" from the line about PTSD. All in all, it's a bunch of random shit that I'm sure he thinks are all smoking guns, but in fact prove nothing other than he has trouble keeping jobs and places to live.

So he's tampered with some of the evidence.
Oh, that's gonna go over so, so well, can't see this going wrong for him at all.

 

[DrJonesHat]

So he's tampered with some of the evidence.
Oh, that's gonna go over so, so well, can't see this going wrong for him at all.

I would think having falsified evidence entered into the record would be grounds to have the whole thing tossed out. If you have to lie to make your case, you don't have one.

Very interesting. This bit about the therapy documents is now at the top of my list of shit I want to see play out in court. If he's flat out lying and forging stuff I hope Skordas sniffs it out and hammers him with it.

This is his civil suit against TS. Skordas isn't involved in this one (AFAIK). Since he has a real lawyer for his criminal charges, I seriously doubt he'll let Russ use faked evidence. That would look very, very bad for a licensed lawyer to allow a client to do that.

 

[cogsworth]

I would think having falsified evidence entered into the record would be grounds to have the whole thing tossed out. If you have to lie to make your case, you don't have one.

This is his civil suit against TS. Skordas isn't involved in this one (AFAIK). Since he has a real lawyer for his criminal charges, I seriously doubt he'll let Russ use faked evidence. That would look very, very bad for a licensed lawyer to allow a client to do that.

Skordas is TayTay's Utah rep, though. If this gets as far as the first one, Skordas will be there to slap his dick for being a horny re.tard.