🐷 Ethan Oliver Ralph / TheRalphRetort / Rad Roberts / Jcaesar187 / Rage Pig / "Killstream" / "Tequila Sunrise" - 5'1'' fat alcoholic, owner of a gunt, convicted felon, alleged rapist and revenge pornographer. Exiled in Mexico carlesss on a diet of slop. Has triple titties. Wanted to fuck Keffals' moobs.

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Mmm. I'd say Ralph had a bigger ratio of hate during the pillstream and I'm not so sure how mad he is really. He seems about as mad as Dick, who mentioned having both of you on his show on yesterday's killstream towards the end, for "getting things wrong" or having some different interpretation of events. I'll try and find the clip.

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IMightKnow said:
This may be based on some tenuous connection making, but I live in Jacksonville, FL (where I seem to remember Gator saying he lives) and I have a theory.

I’ve been reading this thread and Gator’s fake girlfriend lie kept coming up. The way he describes her: looks, attitude, race, everything. Sounds absolutely 1:1 perfect to a girl I know thats been living here; about 24 now. I remember her talking about an ugly guy that wanted to be with her and she kept him around for pity’s sake. Not together, no sex. I really think it might be Shannon she was talking about. If so, this motherfucker was dreaming if he ever thought he could get with this chick. God I hope it’s true.
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Can you do some investigating? And bonus points if you cuck Shannon while you're at it.
 
Bryan Dunn said:
You forgot violent tendencies with extreme destructive behaviors. I dont need to try to make that fat idiot sound worse, he is worse. What makes you decide for an actual living you want to run a muckraking site? Who goes to prison for violence against a female police officer and comes out with zero change to their mindset from what got them there in the first place. Who goes out of their way to promote the nihilistic behaviors of a extreme disregard to moral judgement on the basis of their own financial being and perceived status among "Peers". Who tells people they are his close friends and they actively tard cum those friends for personal information to catalog. When presented with the option to own up to these issues, they quadruple down and manipulate harder.
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Dude, none of those things are exclusive to sociopathy.

Bryan Dunn said:
People can disagree with my opinion, thats fine but to me, after being friends with this piece of shit for years then being a target for him for years and watching him repeatedly do the same exact shit to more than a dozen people over the course of years. I do not attribute his behaviors to just "muh drinking bro". I think blaming the booze and not the person is actually worse than just calling a spade a spade.
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Bryan, I'll remind you that at one point you believed you and Metokur were friends. I wouldn't call you and Ralph friends. On top of that, you keep trying to make it out like I'm saying it's just his alcoholism when in the very same quote you're responding to with this I've said that it's more than just that.

Bryan Dunn said:
Nothing ralph has ever done in his entire internet career has been for the betterment of others or the fulfillment of positive goals nor has he learned from his past mistakes. He has learned absolutely nothing from it. Never tried to walk away, never got a real family or life. Never wanted to be a better person.
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There are many, many people walking the face of this earth that could be described in the same way who aren't sociopaths.

Bryan Dunn said:
He literally married someone to attempt to avoid jail time by escaping to the fucking UK. It didnt work,
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Citation needed.

Bryan Dunn said:
he ate it and then their entire relationship was a farce on the basis that she would pretend their fake wife husband life was amazing if he got her a green card. Never once lived with each other, never once tried to settle down, never once worked on anything together except that stupid toxic blogsite. Its an absolute joke, PPP called this out for what it was because it was so obvious how unorthodox and unnatural they were.
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Again, this isn't something exclusively within the realm of sociopathy. Plenty of people have had this arrangement, for fuck's sake the stereotype of an unattractive loser unlucky in love having a foreign broad marry him for a green card has been around for decades.

Bryan Dunn said:
Its a joke. This person is a sociopath. Every single thing he has done in his collected lifetime has been for the betterment of himself and only himself as well as to profit and enjoy the suffering of othees.
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Nothing you've listed can't be explained by the behavior I've described that you keep glossing over and trying to disingenuously claim I said was solely caused by alcoholism alone. Nor is anything you described even remotely exclusive to sociopaths. You're very, very obviously trying to make the guy out to be worse than he is and your reasoning is absurd. As another poster put it:

Yaniv’s Hairy Balls said:
we get what you’re saying but I don’t think there’s any reason to inflate ER to boogie man levels, it actually gives him more credit than he’s due.
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Bryan Dunn said:
Its not because he loves his drugs and alcohol and "just cant help it". That's just a bonus.
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I never fucking said that you sped.

Unog said:
I dunno man, I'd say that Ralph is more of an egomaniac, similar to Sargon. A lot of his "devil may care" attitude towards both his fuckups and wrongdoings is more due to his alcoholism and age rather than a straight-up neurological condition in my opinion.

Well, unless you consider alcoholism to be a neurological condition.
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Unog said:
There's no need to try to big up Ralph being a piece of shit to cartoonish levels, dude. He's a self-centered alcoholic z-celeb asshole, sure, but not a sociopath.

His lack of remorse for his actions and fuckups is a coping mechanism, not an inborn feature of his psyche. Same as his paranoid and obsessive need to have dirt on everyone he gets close with.
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Unog said:
He acts that way because he rationalizes himself being as shitty of a person as he is by assuming everyone else is as much of a turd as he is. It's the male feminist claiming every man is a rapist sort of thing.

This really just comes off as you trying to make him out to be much worse of a person than he actually is, and there's simply no need or reason for that. I'm trying to be polite, but Bryan, this is one of the reasons so many people here dislike you so intensely. You have a habit of doing this.



He's an emotionally unstable egotist on top of being an alcoholic. You do the math.
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I've taken the liberty of bolding the spots where I had said that there was more wrong with him than just being an alcoholic. You're really, really reaching by trying to paint him as a guy way worse than he actually is and it's grating. The man isn't a sociopath, and I say that as probably one of his most dedicated thread watchers. You just want him to be seen as one because you fucking hate the man's guts.

Like I said, there's no fucking need or reason to try and make the dude into some kind of caricature of who he really is. There's plenty of examples of actual sociopaths on this site for fuck's sake, it's not hard to make the comparison to any of them and realize that Ralph isn't one.
 
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Unog said:
Dude, none of those things are exclusive to sociopathy.



Bryan, I'll remind you that at one point you believed you and Metokur were friends. I wouldn't call you and Ralph friends. On top of that, you keep trying to make it out like I'm saying it's just his alcoholism when in the very same quote you're responding to with this I've said that it's more than just that.



There are many, many people walking the face of this earth that could be described in the same way who aren't sociopaths.



Citation needed.



Again, this isn't something exclusively within the realm of sociopathy. Plenty of people have had this arrangement, for fuck's sake the stereotype of an unattractive loser unlucky in love having a foreign broad marry him for a green card has been around for decades.



Nothing you've listed can't be explained by the behavior I've described that you keep glossing over and trying to disingenuously claim I said was solely caused by alcoholism alone. Nor is anything you described even remotely exclusive to sociopaths. You're very, very obviously trying to make the guy out to be worse than he is and your reasoning is absurd. As another poster put it:






I never fucking said that you sped.





I've taken the liberty of bolding the spots where I had said that there was more wrong with him than just being an alcoholic. You're really, really reaching by trying to paint him as a guy way worse than he actually is and it's grating. The man isn't a sociopath, and I say that as probably one of his most dedicated thread watchers. You just want him to be seen as one because you fucking hate the man's guts.

Like I said, there's no fucking need or reason to try and make the dude into some kind of caricature of who he really is. There's plenty of examples of actual sociopaths on this site for fuck's sake, it's not hard to make the comparison to any of them and realize that Ralph isn't one.
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Agree to disagree then. You aren't going to change my mind and thats due to personal experience and the evidence presented by his character for years and years. Hell, at one point he was caught on a livestream telling his own mother to walk to her doctors because she bothered him.

But I guess, to you, thats all just normal behavior and hes just a drunk asshole. Totally nothing related to sociopathic behaviors at all. Okay. Also I never suggested you only were pushing hes an alcoholic. I said I do not attribute his behavior to the alcohol, but to his character. While you seemed heavily to suggest hes just an asshole who is worse when hes drunk, attributing his behaviors to a heavy degree to the drink, not the person. But thats how I interpreted it, their is no nefarious plot to make you seem disenginious, I dont even know you so calm down spaz.
 
Bryan Dunn said:
Hell, at one point he was caught on a livestream telling his own mother to walk to her doctors because she bothered him.
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Yeah, and in that incident he was very obviously drunk/hungover, and behaving in a manner consistent with a far-gone alcoholic.

Bryan Dunn said:
But I guess, to you, thats all just normal behavior and hes just a drunk asshole. Totally nothing related to sociopathic behaviors at all. Okay. Also I never suggested you only were pushing hes an alcoholic. I said I do not attribute his behavior to the alcohol, but to his character. While you seemed heavily to suggest hes just an asshole who is worse when hes drunk, attributing his behaviors to a heavy degree to the drink, not the person.
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I'm not attributing his behavior in a heavy degree to his drinking. I'm saying him being an alcoholic is part of what makes him act the way he does, and that the behavior you're describing in no way confirms or even suggests that the guy is a sociopath to the extent that you're trying to make him out to be.

Bryan Dunn said:
But thats how I interpreted it, their is no nefarious plot to make you seem disenginious,
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I said that you were being disingenuous (and still are) by trying to say that I'm attributing the majority of his behavior to his alcoholism, which I'm not.

Bryan Dunn said:
I dont even know you so calm down spaz.
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Really, dude? Strong disagreement isn't equivalent to emotional excitement. Though I'm not surprised that you're incapable of understanding that.
 
Unog said:
Yeah, and in that incident he was very obviously drunk/hungover, and behaving in a manner consistent with a far-gone alcoholic.



I'm not attributing his behavior in a heavy degree to his drinking. I'm saying him being an alcoholic is part of what makes him act the way he does, and that the behavior you're describing in no way confirms or even suggests that the guy is a sociopath to the extent that you're trying to make him out to be.



I said that you were being disingenuous (and still are) by trying to say that I'm attributing the majority of his behavior to his alcoholism, which I'm not.



Really, dude? Strong disagreement isn't equivalent to emotional excitement. Though I'm not surprised that you're incapable of understanding that.
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Im not being disenginious. Just because you disagree with me is not some underhanded way to convince people on a lolcow site that this man deserves more than what he's got. Ralph does a VERY good job ruining his own life without any help from me trying to "trick" people into thinking hes Jeffrey Dahmer 2.0(which I do not believe he is, but I dont absolutely think hes a sociopath).

This is my opinion and I believe he is one. You aren't going to change my opinion and frankly, neither me or you can say for a fact that he is/is not a sociopath. So again, Agree to Disagree. Stop making it personal and trying to be disenginious by deflecting to me and how you think you know me. You don't, you don't know my personal history with Ralph either. If you do, its very surface level and one sided.

So, again, calm down spaz.
 
Bryan Dunn said:
Im not being disenginious. Just because you disagree with me is not some underhanded way to convince people on a lolcow site that this man deserves more than what he's got.
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Learn to read. You keep insisting that I've tried to say that his behavior mostly comes from his alcoholism and I've very clearly not made that point.

Bryan Dunn said:
Ralph does a VERY good job ruining his own life without any help from me trying to "trick" people into thinking hes Jeffrey Dahmer 2.0(which I do not believe he is, but I dont absolutely think hes a sociopath).
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That's sort of the point I've been repeatedly making. There's no reason to try and make the guy out to be worse than he is, and in doing so you're giving him ammunition to use against legitimate criticisms (and mockery).

Bryan Dunn said:
This is my opinion and I believe he is one. You aren't going to change my opinion and frankly, neither me or you can say for a fact that he is/is not a sociopath. So again, Agree to Disagree.
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Sure, I can leave it at that. You were being pretty declarative about it though so I figured I'd chime in with my opinion. Though, as I've mentioned previously, none of what you've detailed is even remotely close to being exclusively sociopathic traits and can all be easily (and frankly, make more sense in doing so) explained by other aspects of his personality.

Bryan Dunn said:
Stop making it personal
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Bryan, if anybody's taking anything personally here it's you. I've only insulted you once, and admittedly that was uncalled for, but this is the Farms and speculation about a lolcow, not an intense political discussion or some shit. Like I said, intense disagreement isn't equivalent to emotional excitement - people can heavily disagree with one another without getting heated or upset.

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and trying to be disenginious by deflecting to me and how you think you know me. You don't, you don't know my personal history with Ralph either. If you do, its very surface level and one sided.
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Bruh. Not this again.

Bryan Dunn said:
So, again, calm down spaz.
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Null said:
It's definitely more intense now and I'd say even his audience is more apathetic.

He's super mad at me for what I said but he gets mad any time I say anything negative about him. He calms down eventually when he sees I'm right to be cautious or critical but it's such a predictable routine I'm just going to ignore this one.
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It's not just you. He gets mad when anyone says something negative, or even neutral nowadays. Rackets and Gator both seem to agree that Ethan isn't in a good headspace at all, and he just won't change. The divorce did a number on him, protestations to the contrary, but that's only the latest in a long line of downward trajectory for Ralph's private life. His father dies, he's taking care of his mother as the only breadwinner, his show is making a small fraction of what it once did, he's openly an alcoholic again, and then the divorce happens. None of it takes someone whose ego is already fragile as shit out of the gutter and helps them.
 
Null said:
It's definitely more intense now and I'd say even his audience is more apathetic.

He's super mad at me for what I said but he gets mad any time I say anything negative about him. He calms down eventually when he sees I'm right to be cautious or critical but it's such a predictable routine I'm just going to ignore this one.
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If you didn't have such a reputation for internet security and trolling culture I'm certain he would have tried to destroy you by this point.
 
Unog said:
Learn to read. You keep insisting that I've tried to say that his behavior mostly comes from his alcoholism and I've very clearly not made that point.



That's sort of the point I've been repeatedly making. There's no reason to try and make the guy out to be worse than he is, and in doing so you're giving him ammunition to use against legitimate criticisms (and mockery).



Sure, I can leave it at that. You were being pretty declarative about it though so I figured I'd chime in with my opinion. Though, as I've mentioned previously, none of what you've detailed is even remotely close to being exclusively sociopathic traits and can all be easily (and frankly, make more sense in doing so) explained by other aspects of his personality.



Bryan, if anybody's taking anything personally here it's you. I've only insulted you once, and admittedly that was uncalled for, but this is the Farms and speculation about a lolcow, not an intense political discussion or some shit. Like I said, intense disagreement isn't equivalent to emotional excitement - people can heavily disagree with one another without getting heated or upset.



Bruh. Not this again.



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Alright, fair enough. People may misinterpret what I was meaning in my statements but those.are.just.my opinions. Not a state of fact. Ill leave it at that.
 
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"im not owned! im not owned!!", ralph continues to insist as he slowly shrinks and transforms into a corn cob
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Please don't inspire any grotesque deviant art submissions, that's the last thing this world needs. Ralph hasn't been sacrificed yet because that requires a human being for the ritual, Ralph is no longer human, he is all Gunt now. Lets break down the science: the stomach contains the second largest cluster of nerves in the body apart from the brain (often colloquially called the "second brain"), now if we take into consideration the years of hardcore alcohol and drug abuse that has killed off most of Ralph's brain-cells, this would postulate that Ralph has more surviving nerve endings in his gut than his brain, therefore he is quite literally controlled by the Gunt.
 
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