🗑️ Trashfire The H3H3 and Keemstar feud - 2k16 YouTube Drama 2 - Electric Boogaloo

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Team Ethan or Team Keemstar

  • TEAM ETHAN

    Votes: 81 4.3%

  • TEAM KEEMSTAR

    Votes: 683 36.5%

  • Neither, fuck them both

    Votes: 1,109 59.2%
  • Total voters
    1,873
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Hangula Hungui said:
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So will this lead up to both of them releasing videos about eachother on a daily basis?
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Really, another one? At least hopefully it's not "LOL SNAKES XD" this time, and I assume Ethan might have something more up his sleeve against Keem like what a few people on the H3H3 subreddit mentioned.
 
PlasticOwls said:
I know you folks love supporting your right-winged dudebros being suppressed by the man, and the autismos love screeching about how big a j3w Ethan is, all the power to you. I just don't see either side losing out in the long run.
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I hate people making everything political. I was pissed at Hasan's garbage take even tho politically I'm on his side.

Regardless of side H3H3 is in the wrong. Besides Etika he brings up the gay ass Tony drama that happened 4 years ago for the span of 2 hours. Who tf cares? The Smile4youtube thing which was completely wrong and then he acts like JustDestiny didn't deserve what he got. He did fuck that guy.

There's no reasonable way I could see someone saying H3H3 won.

Edit: Bashurverse thing was weird too considering GamerFromMars just outed him as a fraud
 
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ApatheticViewer said:
Regardless of side H3H3 is in the wrong. Besides Etika he brings up the gay ass Tony drama that happened 4 years ago for the span of 2 hours. Who tf cares.
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Now his moniker and first name are synonymous with the word "pedophile". Not because he actually is one, but quite the opposite. Ethan really really felt like reminding people. Hey remember TONY the guy accused of PEDOPHILIA? All those years ago? Yeah Keemstar truly did accuse him of being a PEDOPHILE.
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Gotta win those internet arguments. Fuck Tony, who cares about him. He doesn't live in a 9 million dollar Bel Air mansion, does he now
 
Keem doesn't hide he is scummy whereas Ethan is scummy while trying to claim he's a good decent guy. Fuck him.
 
PlasticOwls said:
Ethan weaponizing sponsors to get back at Keem is not a cashmoney move though. Sets a worrying precident.
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Ah yes I can predict what it'll be like right now. Here's a quote from a future youtuber just trying to get by:

“Youtube has changed.

It's no longer about subcounts, ideologies, or how much of a fucking faggot you are that brings in the views. It's an endless series of proxy battles, fought by the youtube algorithm, content ID system and sponsors.

Youtube--and it's consumption of actual good content--has caused content creators (CC's) to become some of the most unlikeable people, and fighting over what shitty brand you have to plug for almost 4 min just to make your video viewed..

Youtube has changed.

Sponsored CC's carry ID-tagged energy drinks, stamps, and Raid Shadow Legends 50000 silver and offer ID-tagged repulsive brand deals like Teddy Fresh and Skillshare. Yearnings of greed inside their bodies enhance and regulate their autism.

Genetic control, information control, emotion control, financial control…everything is monitored and kept under control by the sponsors.

Youtube…has changed.

The age of deterrence has become the age of sponsor control, all in the name of averting catastrophe from being demonitized, and he who controls Youtube, controls history. Until they start to run of actual watchable content and move to Twitch.

Youtube…has changed.

When the battlefield is under total control, sponsorship wars becomes routine.”
 
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ApatheticViewer said:
I hate people making this shit political. I was pissed at Hasan's garbage take even tho politically I'm on his side.

Regardless of side H3H3 is in the wrong. Besides Etika he brings up the gay ass Tony drama that happened 4 years ago for the span of 2 hours. Who tf cares. The Smile4youtube thing which was completely wrong and then he acts like JustDestiny didn't deserve what he got. He did fuck that guy.

There's no reasonable way I could see someone saying H3H3 won.
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Are you really saying it's cool to call Sir Tony Ray a pedophile because it's been 4 years since it happened? Wow, great moves, keep it up.

And Keemstar was the biggest voice on Twitter at the time denying Etika's cries for help as just attention whoring, something Keem hasn't really addressed since Etika's suicide beyond the usual platitudes. But fine, it's old shit I guess.

With how fast the internet is, and with how short its attention span is, people easily forget what Keemstar has really done beyond Ian's Content Cop. Keemstar is smart enough and has the preservation instinct to sweep his bad baggage under the rug, and a concise recap of that bad baggage isn't uncalled for.

What's uncalled for is how Ethan carelessly had his fanbase cancel Keem's sponsorship with G-Fuel, but even that worrying development was blunted by how much the internet dislikes Keemstar.

Both their channels are growing, both sides equally think they're in the right. No one won, but no one is losing either.
 
Hangula Hungui said:
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To be honest, I want the gnome to win but if they just keep milking it, and not squashing this beef soon, it will make them look both pathetic and insecure. If it's just Ethan, same thing, pathetic, insecure, and add in greedy because we all know this drama is getting him a good chunk of youtube AdSense change. (unless he has no ads on his videos)
 
Vetti said:
Ethan's fanbase of rabid preteens is worse than Jake Paul's these days.
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I dunno about the fanbase, but it's an interesting mental exercise to try and determine whether the Paul brothers are better than worse than Ethan. I'm sorta inclined to think the Paul Bros' sins are those of constantly acting in bad taste (and like inconsiderate idiots). Whereas Ethan is just a vile scheming Jew. So I'm gonna say Ethan is way worse.

Plus, as Toad pointed out in his YouTube apology review video, Paul (whatever one of the two dipshits that did the Suicide Forrest video) ended up donating a cool million to suicide prevention as part of his apology. You think Ethan is ever gonna give up any Joo Gold in Etika's memory? Hit X now.

ApatheticViewer said:
and then he acts like JustDestiny didn't deserve what he got. He did fuck that guy.
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The issue here is that what KF thinks about doxing, and what the rest of the Internet thinks about doxing, are two different things. Ethan very cleverly gave just the information that would make Keem look bad in the eyes of the unwashed masses. Nothing about the fake C&D and shit.
 
PlasticOwls said:
Are you really saying it's cool to call Sir Tony Ray a pedophile because it's been 4 years since it happened? Wow, great moves, keep it up.
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Wait when did Keemstar recently call Tony a pedophile? Could you link that?

PlasticOwls said:
And Keemstar was the biggest voice on Twitter at the time denying Etika's cries for help as just attention whoring, something Keem hasn't really addressed since Etika's suicide beyond the usual platitudes. But fine, it's old shit I guess.
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Ridiculous. Everyone thought Etika was faking. Everyone was attacking him. And according to Keem and the people close to Etika they were both friends behind the scenes. And according to Keem Etika sounded completely normal when he wasn't in front of a camera.
 
STALKER said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zTgMw3kf9DY
This has probably already been posted but I thought I might add something that most people don't know about Tony (RSGlory AndGold). Obviously we all know that in Keemstar's early days he falsely reported that this dude was a paedophile but most people don't know what transpired after that.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=VLlMfVbZmEY21:00

On the Official Podcast in 2017 Keemstar explained everything that happened between him and Tony after the false allegation. It is seriously worth listening too because it shows that Tony isn't exactly the innocent old man that he portrays himself to be. Also its genuinely hilarious.

  1. Tony refused compensation money from Keemstar and he said that he just wanted to be Keem's 'friend'.
  2. Keemstar starts advertising Tony's Twitch as much as possible because Tony just wants exposure from all of this, which is fair enough.
  3. Tony's Twitch got a massive boost in viewers but it quickly went down when the controversy blew over.
  4. Tony starts trying to guilt trip Keemstar into shouting him out more.
  5. Tony's Twitch falls back into complete obscurity.
  6. Tony starts claiming that Keemstar ruined his life and he's clearly just trying to keep the controversy alive for views (This is now a year later).
  7. Tony calls Keemstar and suggests a collaboration, Keemstar agrees to meet up with Tony in Kansas City.
  8. Keemstar goes to Kansas City but Tony doesn't respond and doesn't meet up with Keemstar at the arranged place and time.
  9. Keemstar returns home and Tony starts insulting Keemstar and claiming that Keemstar didn't show up.
  10. Keemstar tells Tony to fuck off and cuts contact.
So basically Tony is just trying to get views and this whole H3H3 shit has boosted his Twitch back up. Also apparently Tony got catphish by a load of people and he's a really creepy dude but I couldn't find the evidence anywhere.

Obviously this could all be lies from Keemstar.

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The worst part about this is that despite Ethan's obvious deceit, the other party is notoriously untrustworthy so there is no chance of getting at the truth from anyone reliably apart from the things they just can't hide.
 
Captain Manning said:
Plus, as Toad pointed out in his YouTube apology review video, Paul (whatever one of the two dipshits that did the Suicide Forrest video) ended up donating a cool million to suicide prevention as part of his apology. You think Ethan is ever gonna give up any Joo Gold in Etika's memory? Hit X now.
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Everytime Ethan gets criticized, he gives away money. It started off when he basically called Jeff Bezos a bitch for not donating what Ethan thought was appropriate. A couple of days of people saying, "What the fuck have you donated then"? And then Ethan started giving away joo gold as you put it. Now, did he actually give the money away? I don't know, but bet your bottom dollar he's gonna use that against anyone who says he doesn't help anyone.
PlasticOwls said:
Are you really saying it's cool to call Sir Tony Ray a pedophile because it's been 4 years since it happened? Wow, great moves, keep it up.

And Keemstar was the biggest voice on Twitter at the time denying Etika's cries for help as just attention whoring, something Keem hasn't really addressed since Etika's suicide beyond the usual platitudes. But fine, it's old shit I guess.
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No where in that post did that kiwi say it's cool to call Tony a pedophile. It's kind of disingenuous to say they did when he called bringing up old drama "gay ass". The post below sums up what I would say to you regarding Ethan bringing it up. It's not cool to make that dude's name synonymous with pedophile. Ethan's a lame ass for that one.
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Now his moniker and first name are synonymous with the word "pedophile". Not because he actually is one, but quite the opposite. Ethan really really felt like reminding people. Hey remember TONY the guy accused of PEDOPHILIA? All those years ago? Yeah Keemstar truly did accuse him of being a PEDOPHILE.
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Gotta win those internet arguments. Fuck Tony, who cares about him. He doesn't live in a 9 million dollar Bel Air mansion, does he now
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Regarding Keem's actions against Etika. Yeah, they were fucking harmful towards Etika. Keem knows that, we all fucking know that. But to virtually dig up his corpse just to throw at Keem for a "gotcha!" is fucking low.

RIP Etika. Joycon Boyz 4 lyfe
 
ApatheticViewer said:
Ridiculous. Everyone thought Etika was faking. Everyone was attacking him. And according to Keem and the people close to Etika they were both friends behind the scenes. And according to Keem Etika sounded completely normal when he wasn't in front of a camera.
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Keem has had a history of doubling down on his convictions when he's in the wrong, and his insight on people is spotty considering his interactions with Leafy and, more recently, Onision. Dude played a bigger part in the mob than you give credit for.


CatharticShitHead said:
No where in that post did that kiwi say it's cool to call Tony a pedophile. It's kind of disingenuous to say they did when he called bringing up old drama "gay ass". The post below sums up what I would say to you regarding Ethan bringing it up. It's not cool to make that dude's name synonymous with pedophile. Ethan's a lame ass for that one.
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It's not disingenuous at all; he made the implication that time and a brief apology means absolution of guilt, and that it's cool that Keem fucked up an investigation and outed a poor man of being a pedophile multiple times.

If anything, Ethan didn't make his name synonymous with pedophile and actually had people support him.
 
The video of the old man Keem accused of being a pedo is #21 in trending despite having 3-400K views. Ethan is clearly orchestrating shit behind the scenes.
 
PlasticOwls said:
Are you really saying it's cool to call Sir Tony Ray a pedophile because it's been 4 years since it happened? Wow, great moves, keep it up.
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No. You are autistic. That is not what he is saying. You clearly have not been paying attention.

What several people (including myself, since I was the one who brought it up in the first place back on page 6) are saying is that Keem was a dipshit for calling Tony a pedo BUT he took that video down when he realized he fucked up, offered Tony money, and uploaded an apology video which is STILL UP.

Basically Ethan is bringing up the one thing where Keem unquestionably did the right thing, after doing the wrong thing. Ethan never mentioned the apology part. Shit happened four years ago. He fucked up. He admits it. He fixed it to the best of his ability. Move on.

CatharticShitHead said:
Regarding Keem's actions against Etika. Yeah, they were fucking harmful towards Etika. Keem knows that, we all fucking know that. But to virtually dig up his corpse just to throw at Keem for a "gotcha!" is fucking low.
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I don't believe Keem killed Etika. Simple as. He's an insensitive moron when it comes to understanding mental illness, but that's not the same thing.
 
BrunoMattei said:
The video of the old man Keem accused of being a pedo is #21 in trending despite having 3-400K views. Ethan is clearly orchestrating shit behind the scenes.
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Ethan Klein is just fucking disgusting. He makes Jews look bad by coping to stereotype. All the fucking time.
 
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