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Apparently this is a thing with NBs, getting your entire crotch removed? Like an extreme form of FGM where they remove everything and stitch everything up or something? Can someone here explain what this procedure is? Is it like zero depth vaginoplasty or what? Or is it just an uovohysterectomy?

I don't think you can? That'd be completely unreasonable and such with the plumbing and put you at huge risk for infections or dying on the table and what not and even in the era of genital mutilation for troons hurrah! I just don't see you finding a doctor who'd remove your entire vagina / labia / and all internal parts, etc at once- imagine the complication risk for such a surgery. She's probably getting a hysterectomy without even considering the long term risks and how it essentially throws you into early menopause which can increase your risks of certain cancers.
 
I don't think you can? That'd be completely unreasonable and such with the plumbing and put you at huge risk for infections or dying on the table and what not and even in the era of genital mutilation for troons hurrah! I just don't see you finding a doctor who'd remove your entire vagina / labia / and all internal parts, etc at once- imagine the complication risk for such a surgery. She's probably getting a hysterectomy without even considering the long term risks and how it essentially throws you into early menopause which can increase your risks of certain cancers.

Rating you optimistic because... well, there are way too many surgeons who seem to have no conscience.
 
I don't think you can? That'd be completely unreasonable and such with the plumbing and put you at huge risk for infections or dying on the table and what not and even in the era of genital mutilation for troons hurrah! I just don't see you finding a doctor who'd remove your entire vagina / labia / and all internal parts, etc at once- imagine the complication risk for such a surgery. She's probably getting a hysterectomy without even considering the long term risks and how it essentially throws you into early menopause which can increase your risks of certain cancers.
There are unscrupulous doctors that will turn you into a irl futa. A FtM with a arm flesh tube and fake balls while still having female sexual anatomy and more than two MtF who kept their dicks with stink holes installed have been featured in this thread before.
 
I don't think you can? That'd be completely unreasonable and such with the plumbing and put you at huge risk for infections or dying on the table and what not and even in the era of genital mutilation for troons hurrah! I just don't see you finding a doctor who'd remove your entire vagina / labia / and all internal parts, etc at once- imagine the complication risk for such a surgery. She's probably getting a hysterectomy without even considering the long term risks and how it essentially throws you into early menopause which can increase your risks of certain cancers.

There are 'zero-depth' and 'limited depth' surgeries for mtfs where they basically try to make a vulva without the vaginal canal (or in the case of the latter, very little of it). I wouldn't be surprised at all if that kind of procedure either exists or could exist at some point :(

 
Found this exceptionalism today:
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Say it with me: cultures with a third gender are/were typically ones that felt the need to create a new category for gay/GNC people because they had rigid gender stereotypes. Indigenous tribes viewing gay men as "not men" and therefor in need of a separate gender is not the same as teenagers on Tumblr renaming themselves "Kai" and going by "they/them." The idea that who someone fucks or what they do for a living changes their gender is pretty un-woke when you actually think about it.

Let's take a closer look at these examples (some of which are misspelled.) Māhū were biologically male-- they were men who performed "feminine" tasks still considered to be inappropriate for women. For the longest time, the term was believed to just be the Hawaiian word for homosexual (it isn't-- it's more like a description of profession.) Faʻafafine is literally the exact same thing, but in Samoa instead of Hawaii. It's an adjective that literally just translates to "effeminate" (wow, such third gender, much abolition of gender roles.) "Hijra" is just the Hindi word for "eunuch" which people in modern times have appropriated to apply to Tumblr genders. The only one of these that really holds water as being analogous to modern day troons and genderspecials is the five genders the Bugis people have, which are basically male, female, FTM, MTF, and "Bissu." Hmm, that's funny, I thought considering trannies to be a separate gender from normal men and women is wrong, but I guess TRAs are willing to overlook that so long as they can use this obscure culture to prove a point.

Notice how the argument being made by this meme basically amounts to "well, ethnic minorities do it, so if you object to it you're RACIST!!1!" I shouldn't have to say why that's absurd. Even setting aside the fact that these cultures all have third genders as a result of rigid gender stereotypes, something shouldn't just be okay because it happens to be practiced by a persecuted group. For instance, there are cultures out there that practice FGM. Does that mean the culture is evil, or that its people are? No. However, culture should never be used as an excuse to infringe on other peoples' human rights, and FGM is very much that. You can disagree with certain inhumane practices in a culture without hating or disenfranchising an entire ethnic group.

Also, if we're going to use Tumblrina logic to fight Tumblrina logic-- stop using brown people as props or points of argumentation. Whens the last time ANYONE in this thread encountered a genderspecial that wasn't lily-white? The only "two spirit" person I can think of is Kent Monkman, who goes by "he" and is by all accounts just a gay man (and also never even lived an a reservation.) Also, yeah, the "two spirit" thing is once again just like the Māhū-- a third "gender" that was mostly created because they needed "female" equivalents in ceremonies that women were forbidden from participating in. I fail to see how that's progressive, but people took it and ran with it and now it's just another term for genderspecial.
I love how all the incredibly white tumblr genderspecials decide their regular old "nb" special specialness isn't good enough and call themselves "two spirit". Except "two spirit" is apparently a native american concept of "a woman with the heart of a man", which is just the same old "she'll take care of the kids like she's supposed to but she's not afraid to shank someone trying to rape her" cultural holdover.

God, the ass-backwards logic of these people. Nothing more progressive and boundary breaking than sorting humans in tinier and tinier boxes like an ocd man off his meds. And if you ask them how it's progressive they'll do that narc thing where they talk circles because it's nothing more than a dunning kruger ego stroke.
 
It is insane that people that have the most mild opinions on something take so much heat from a bunch of oversensitive crazies. Because if i remember correctly JK Rowling already ate a lot of flak from another extremely mild take last year and i don't remember if it was troons or feminists which got up in arms.

Which will make you wonder... Will these people stop comparing everything to Harry Potter if their sacred cow falls out of grace?

Rowling is a honorary terf. She even liked a tweet from the late Magdalen Berns.
 
There are 'zero-depth' and 'limited depth' surgeries for mtfs where they basically try to make a vulva without the vaginal canal (or in the case of the latter, very little of it). I wouldn't be surprised at all if that kind of procedure either exists or could exist at some point :(


Those aren't quite as horrific as some of the things I've seen on here. Half of them look like a Silent Hill monster.
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There are 'zero-depth' and 'limited depth' surgeries for mtfs where they basically try to make a vulva without the vaginal canal (or in the case of the latter, very little of it). I wouldn't be surprised at all if that kind of procedure either exists or could exist at some point :(

Yeah they look "better", but that's not saying much considering they all looked like the "patient" shoved firecrackers in their taints for fun. Just wait for the troons that get this to go "uguu some ladies have wrinkly labias" yeah but they don't undeniably look like fucking butchered scrote.

Aside: I also dislike the fact that now instead of getting results for false canals constructed for mrkh patients or getting your pussy cut up to have the perfect pornstar vag, "vaginoplasty" is almost definitely dominated by manhole butchery.
 
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the moment you start asking any questions about why you can't change race but you can change gender you'll find that there's no difference between the two
Not to white knight for troons, but I would argue that the reason transracialism is seen as more implausible than transgenderism is that race is determined by a long line of ancestors going back thousands of years, while gender is a coin toss with each pregnancy.
Jesse's going trans:
Jesse is gonna need a helluva lot of voice training to compensate for that rich bass register. The thing is, he sounds like a perfectly reasonable and intelligent man. Yet he is overcome by the sheer force of AGP. A shame.
Classicist Victoria Wohl claims that pederasty and homosexuality was more common among the higher classes, than among the majority of people in Greece, most of whom lived as farmers in one way or another.
It has been claimed that homosexuality is a luxury--a sign of decadence and a harbinger of societal decline.
I'd go for Catholic over Troon as well - Catholicism gives you guilt, but there's forgiveness there that troons rarely practice. And as has been pointed out, only one of them mutilates your body.
Do Catholics (at least American followers) not circumcise?
I initially assumed there was some sort of distortion in the camera lens. Then it dawned on me that that might actually be his forehead.
This is a "Juliette" aka a TruDegenerate
I second the use of "Juliette" to denote a bimbo trans who knows he's a degenerate--who knows his transition was sexually motivated--and embraces it. Taking the name from Juliette Stray
 
Those aren't quite as horrific as some of the things I've seen on here. Half of them look like a Silent Hill monster.
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For sure, it's in the context of sex/sexuality that it's pretty horrifying to look at. That it'd be 'transphobic' to not wanna go down on that is a fucking travesty.

Yeah they look "better", but that's not saying much considering they all looked like the "patient" shoved firecrackers in their taints for fun. Just wait for the troons that get this to go "uguu some ladies have wrinkly labias" yeah but they don't undeniably look like fucking butchered scrote.

Aside: I also dislike the fact that now instead of getting results for false canals constructed for mrkh patients or getting your pussy cut up to have the perfect pornstar vag, "vaginoplasty" is almost definitely dominated by manhole butchery.

Gynecologists lItErALlY cAnT tElL tHe difFerEnCe though! /sneed

I dunno the stats on who's getting ~bottom surgery~ but yeah. Mtf troons kinda have a habit of dominating any space they occupy - ftm troon surgery is of course a thing, but I'd wager mtf surgeries outnumber them and vaginal surgeries for real women vastly, not that either surgery is good or has good outcomes.
 
I don't get this one. It's a time lapse with the first pic being like 10 months hrt and the second being like 20.

Everyone in the comments is like "you look so good."


Am I the only one that sees the bruising? Is that not bruising? Perhaps it's a fucked up makeup job. I just can't get how no one is like "hey why the fuck do you look super sick"
 

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I don't get this one. It's a time lapse with the first pic being like 10 months hrt and the second being like 20.

Everyone in the comments is like "you look so good."


Am I the only one that sees the bruising? Is that not bruising? Perhaps it's a fucked up makeup job. I just can't get how no one is like "hey why the fuck do you look super sick"
It looks like he got punched. Or is a cancer patient. Or is on drugs and hasn't slept in a month. I should applaud him for having clean hair/wig (you tied your own shoes today little Jimmy, good job!), but if you want bangs at all, at least have them down to your eyebrows.
 
I don't get this one. It's a time lapse with the first pic being like 10 months hrt and the second being like 20.

Everyone in the comments is like "you look so good."


Am I the only one that sees the bruising? Is that not bruising? Perhaps it's a fucked up makeup job. I just can't get how no one is like "hey why the fuck do you look super sick"

Apologies for the shit pic but aren't these 'TERF' bangs? Lol. Seconded with keybored, they look like a druggie or something in the 2nd pic. Pretty sure they're just getting asspats for being 20mo on horse piss pills.

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I don't get this one. It's a time lapse with the first pic being like 10 months hrt and the second being like 20.

Everyone in the comments is like "you look so good."


Am I the only one that sees the bruising? Is that not bruising? Perhaps it's a fucked up makeup job. I just can't get how no one is like "hey why the fuck do you look super sick"
I think it's makeup, possibly an attempt at that Korean eye bag makeup trend, but I may be giving him too much credit...
 
Apologies for the shit pic but aren't these 'TERF' bangs? Lol. Seconded with keybored, they look like a druggie or something in the 2nd pic. Pretty sure they're just getting asspats for being 20mo on horse piss pills.

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This is yet more evidence that many leftists, and troons more specifically, are humorless and suck ass at memes. I know many women online and IRL who would probably be considered TERFs of some description (low as the bar for that is...), I have yet to meet one with these bangs. I have absolutely zero idea where troons get this idea from.

If anything, any woman I've ever encountered with this type of cut is far more likely to be a pro-troon SJW.
 
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This is yet more evidence that many leftists, and troons more specifically, are humorless and suck ass at memes. I know many women online and IRL who would probably be considered TERFs of some description (low as the bar for that is...), I have yet to meet one with these bangs. I have absolutely zero idea where troons get this idea from.

If anything, any woman I've ever encountered with this type of cut is far more likely to be a pro-troon SJW.
i like to call them BPD bangs.
 
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