🦊 Furry Furry Convention Drama - Because you can't have a couple thousand dog fucking enthusiasts under the same roof without shit hitting the fan

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Catch Your Breath said:
You know a lot about PAWCon. Care to explain why Growly was allowed to be a staff member for so long given his previous conviction?
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Funny given that the origins of the convention started because people were upset over a serial abuser being allowed to run FC yet those same people took no issue with THIS serial abuser? Of children no less?
Let me tell ya, that sure does get the noggin joggin.
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You know, I get the sentiment of " everyone deserves second chances " but that's when it comes to minor things like petty theft, getting caught with a joint, or some other really small & insignificant crime that has little to no consequences to other people aside from themselves.
I'd like furries to repeat after me.
This. Does not. Ever. Apply. To. Fucking. Child. Rapists. EVER.
Honestly, how fucking stupid do you have to be to befriend a KNOWN PEDOPHILE. I don't give a shit if they're no longer speaking. You were stupid enough to associate with a known pedophile, that makes you suspect. End of story. The only reason you have to talk to a degenerate like that is because you're a child who got manipulated into it or you're an adult & you share that sickening interest in children. One can clearly be excused because they haven't developed cognitively enough to identify a threat. The other is purposely seeking out this degenerate's attention. The only reason they stop talking to him is because he got convicted again & that puts scrutiny on them. They're not doing it out of morals. They're doing it to save their own fucking skin.
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That's the flipside of the paradox of tolerance. Furries are so blasé and accepting of... let's call them "alternative sexualities"... that they can't even bring themselves to expel a kiddie-fucker. Why? Because a good number of them got into the fandom either because they were freaks of a similar stripe, or they developed those tastes as they sunk in deeper into the mire. So they're a rat king: if one of them truly goes down (as opposed to just getting a slap on the wrist and a temporary "I'm not talking to you anymore"), they can easily drag the others down along with them.
 
Has anyone mentioned the time a couple of pup play fags were doing their gross shit in public at FWA? I think it was the 2018 con.

Leonard Helplessness said:
How on earth does this happen? How does a hotel get so bad that there are worms in the bed and one of them crawls up your asshole while you're asleep? How?
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I have yet to even seen something remotely like that on Another Dirty Room. If what that furfag is saying is true then I have to ask if the worms got there via the person themselves/someone else in the room or if it was there to begin with.
 
Reynard said:
Has anyone mentioned the time a couple of pup play fags were doing their gross shit in public at FWA? I think it was the 2018 con.


I have yet to even seen something remotely like that on Another Dirty Room. If what that furfag is saying is true then I have to ask if the worms got there via the person themselves/someone else in the room or if it was there to begin with.
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I haven't even heard that one lol if that was posted to the Farms before, you can try searching the General thread around the time of the convention as that's helped me find shit faster than trying to glean through Twitter.
 
Catch Your Breath said:
I haven't even heard that one lol if that was posted to the Farms before, you can try searching the General thread around the time of the convention as that's helped me find shit faster than trying to glean through Twitter.
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It was mentioned in the thread but I don’t have the time to go through it, sadly. But you can ask most furries and they’ll know what you’re talking about. So just ask around and they’ll be able to provide you with some evidence of it happening and the huge backlash where furries said “fuck off and do that in your hotel rooms, not in the open under the escalators.”
 
Reynard said:
It was mentioned in the thread but I don’t have the time to go through it, sadly. But you can ask most furries and they’ll know what you’re talking about. So just ask around and they’ll be able to provide you with some evidence of it happening and the huge backlash where furries said “fuck off and do that in your hotel rooms, not in the open under the escalators.”
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I noticed a lot of furs tend to look the fuck down on pup furs, not because of NoodlesandBeef, but most furs are turned off by the BDSM aspect... that and they find the pup masks to be a lazy attempt at poodling.
 
Pizdec said:
I noticed a lot of furs tend to look the fuck down on pup furs, not because of NoodlesandBeef, but most furs are turned off by the BDSM aspect... that and they find the pup masks to be a lazy attempt at poodling.
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It’s because the pup community tends to overshadow their furry aspect in a community that isn’t centered around pup play. Essentially what always bothered me is that the pup fags tend to be very obnoxious and in your face about it, always making it their icon wherever they go. They also try to pull the “it’s not a fetish” card all the time. Say what you will, but furries aren’t just a fetish. It is for many people, but it’s not exclusively a fetish interest. Pup play is an extension of BDSM which is a fetish and will be honest about it’s nature as a fetish. Pup fags don’t have that level of self awareness or outright lie to themselves that their extension of BDSM, which knows it’s a fetish, is no different than furry, which is centered around and not just being a fetish.

Really what it comes down to is that pups combine the worst of BDSM and furries into one and for that reason nobody really wants them. Yet they still force themselves into furry as if they’re a part of it because some furries are dumb enough to go along with them and enable the pup fags.
 
Reynard said:
It’s because the pup community tends to overshadow their furry aspect in a community that isn’t centered around pup play. Essentially what always bothered me is that the pup fags tend to be very obnoxious and in your face about it, always making it their icon wherever they go. They also try to pull the “it’s not a fetish” card all the time. Say what you will, but furries aren’t just a fetish. It is for many people, but it’s not exclusively a fetish interest. Pup play is an extension of BDSM which is a fetish and will be honest about it’s nature as a fetish. Pup fags don’t have that level of self awareness or outright lie to themselves that their extension of BDSM, which knows it’s a fetish, is no different than furry, which is centered around and not just being a fetish.

Really what it comes down to is that pups combine the worst of BDSM and furries into one and for that reason nobody really wants them. Yet they still force themselves into furry as if they’re a part of it because some furries are dumb enough to go along with them and enable the pup fags.
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We had a dude on here some months ago who had insight into both the local LGBT and rubber pup shit communities, and said that those idiots in masks basically embody the worst of both sides. The "teehee so cute and childish" of furries and the obnoxious Pride behavior of faggots. I think the bottomline is that furries dislike them because they embody the raw sexual energy tied to fursuits and animal characters, but even if you sort of give furries the benefit of the doubt, at least they keep that shit behind locked doors. These idiots however live and breathe sex (and probably STDs), so they feel themselves victims for being hated on by running around naked at a convention, wondering why the furries try to hide it. The same way a black person realizing "killing all whites" is racist only to be exiled from the black community for putting words to it.
 
Cactus Wings said:
We had a dude on here some months ago who had insight into both the local LGBT and rubber pup shit communities, and said that those idiots in masks basically embody the worst of both sides. The "teehee so cute and childish" of furries and the obnoxious Pride behavior of faggots. I think the bottomline is that furries dislike them because they embody the raw sexual energy tied to fursuits and animal characters, but even if you sort of give furries the benefit of the doubt, at least they keep that shit behind locked doors. These idiots however live and breathe sex (and probably STDs), so they feel themselves victims for being hated on by running around naked at a convention, wondering why the furries try to hide it. The same way a black person realizing "killing all whites" is racist only to be exiled from the black community for putting words to it.
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I’d say even the titty suits and obviously covered murrsuits have more class. At least there’s some creativity and effort put into their creation. Hell, as sexual as both of them are they’re still representing a fictional character and would take some knowledge of how to bring that character to life to at least partially sell the idea that it’s not just a sex thing. Of course, at least even the obvious murrsuiters know to keep their shit behind closed doors. All the clips I’ve seen people post of them (with a few exceptions) tend to be in the hotel room instead of out on the con floor. Like you said, pups embody the worst of both of these communities. I’ve met some that manage to be tasteful and keep it behind closed doors, but they’re few and far between.
 
Reynard said:
Like you said, pups embody the worst of both of these communities. I’ve met some that manage to be tasteful and keep it behind closed doors, but they’re few and far between.
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There’s also the issue that “pup play” often is taken to mean babyfur shit by some people. There’s a distinction, but it doesn’t help that the communities do sometimes overlap so you get shit like pacifier gags and photos of dudes in both bondage gear and diapers. Hell, I’ve heard of some babyfurs being into the particularly nasty BDSM shit like breathplay because they like being air-deprived to the point of physical panic, presumably because that leads to bowel evacuation.
 
Catch Your Breath said:
Funny given that the origins of the convention started because people were upset over a serial abuser being allowed to run FC yet those same people took no issue with THIS serial abuser? Of children no less?
Let me tell ya, that sure does get the noggin joggin.
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From what I understand, Growly was one of the only ones who could run the DJ equipment at the time and he provided a lot of fursuit lounge shit. It was more "Oh shit, if we cut this guy we have to replace his stuff" laziness than "We should REALLY cut this KNOWN GROOMER from our staff"
 
Leonard Helplessness said:
There’s also the issue that “pup play” often is taken to mean babyfur shit by some people. There’s a distinction, but it doesn’t help that the communities do sometimes overlap so you get shit like pacifier gags and photos of dudes in both bondage gear and diapers. Hell, I’ve heard of some babyfurs being into the particularly nasty BDSM shit like breathplay because they like being air-deprived to the point of physical panic, presumably because that leads to bowel evacuation.
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Considering the shit I've come across regarding pups...
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Edit: I noticed one picture wasn't loading on desktop, tried to fix it, had to delete both and reupload, enjoy!
 
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Sneed's Feed And Seed said:
From what I understand, Growly was one of the only ones who could run the DJ equipment at the time and he provided a lot of fursuit lounge shit. It was more "Oh shit, if we cut this guy we have to replace his stuff" laziness than "We should REALLY cut this KNOWN GROOMER from our staff"
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Sounds like an excuse to me considering that Growly's arrest & conviction was in 2000. They absolutely had every right to know better and something tells me other people running the con are either pedos, zoos, or probably both. You don't make yourself dependent on a convict just because he has nice shit.

I'm going to be taking a closer look at this and any other convention that willingly staffed Growly soon enough.
 
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Catch Your Breath said:
Sounds like an excuse to me considering that Growly's arrest & conviction was in 2000. They absolutely had every right to know better and something tells me other people running the con are either pedos, zoos, or probably both. I'm going to be taking a closer look at this and any other convention that willingly staffed Growly soon enough.
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You're right on the money there. The people keeping Growly on staff were covering for him. Be it due to personal loyalty to a "friend", or because their own "tails" were tied to his.

Of course, if you associate yourself with a known pedophile and you have two braincells to rub together you're going to be in your best behavior when making a public appearance like at a con, so there's a good chance you're not going to be finding a lot of dirt except from the usual suspects. You know the ones: the cum-addled public indecency convicts that would be causing trouble anyway.
 
Reynard said:
It was mentioned in the thread but I don’t have the time to go through it, sadly. But you can ask most furries and they’ll know what you’re talking about. So just ask around and they’ll be able to provide you with some evidence of it happening and the huge backlash where furries said “fuck off and do that in your hotel rooms, not in the open under the escalators.”
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There was also a 360 degree video of the event recorded by the two in the video.
 
Leonard Helplessness said:
There’s also the issue that “pup play” often is taken to mean babyfur shit by some people. There’s a distinction, but it doesn’t help that the communities do sometimes overlap so you get shit like pacifier gags and photos of dudes in both bondage gear and diapers. Hell, I’ve heard of some babyfurs being into the particularly nasty BDSM shit like breathplay because they like being air-deprived to the point of physical panic, presumably because that leads to bowel evacuation.
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“Breath play” is how I always assumed that guy “Kristofur” fox died. He was a friend of “Diezel” raccoon, if I remember right, and I know there are photos somewhere of him being literally wrapped in plastic and deprived of air to the extent of nearing death. That shit always really bothered me, but I never knew it could lead to evacuation of ones bowels.....
Fucking furries, man.
 
The Blue Spirit said:
Well, at least there was some people who weren't okay with it. If I was them, I would create a new board away and separate from RAIn.
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You mean like Anthro Northwest (which was covered) and Furvana (which wasn't, because the drama it mostly had it's first year opening is that hardly anyone knew because they forgot to FUCKING ADVERTISE their new con)? Nah, a lot of them latched onto Furlandia or Vancofur instead. But so did the higher ups that pissed on everything. Some sane ones (my sources for this, but don't want to get into doxxing territory, why I'm being vague) basically just said "Fuck cons in general, I'm not bothering anymore."

Corn Flakes said:
I think nowadays even furries realize that fracturing an existing convention is a bad idea. So a lot of them just "go with it" for the sake of just being convention staff at all at the end of the day. I don't get the allure (I wouldn't volunteer to be staff in any convention, much less a furry one) but these guys seem to get a kick out of it. Maybe they get some perks we're not aware of.
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RF (and a few other cons I heard) basically let the volunteers get the next years basic entry for free. So if you volunteer one year, you get to go in the next year free of charge. So if you keep volunteering, you keep getting 'paid' that way. You can also get staff rooms to crash in, and a break room for some food, so if you're okay with the bare minimum of food and rest, there's that.

I was told that a couple years for RF they had an artist on staff, and she would make badges for the people that were in the top 5 for how many hours worked at the con, and gave discounts for badges for staff members. But I doubt that's common.
 
JethroTullamore said:
That shit always really bothered me, but I never knew it could lead to evacuation of ones bowels.....
Fucking furries, man.
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I was spitballing based on the fact that involuntary urination/defecation is a huge component of babyfur fetishism, to the point that I've seen stuff where people were trying to figure out ways to deliberately make themselves incontinent.
 
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