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Corn Flakes said:
Every time people demand a miracle cure, it comes with severe side-effects. I remember a few years ago all the feminists clamoring for the "female viagra" to be approved by the FDA when in fact its effect was observed in only a tiny minority of women, and if taken alongside alcohol it turned basically into a date-rape drug. But they didn't care, they wanted it noooooooow.
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Flibansaren?

Yeah don't drink on that. It doesn't really work anyway.
 
Comrade Autogynephilia said:
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Jesus Christ, that looks like my uncle Stan when he dressed in drag for a Halloween party two years ago.

Thankfully, the troon is missing my uncle's tattoos. That would have made for a really awkward Thanksgiving this year.
eternal dog mongler said:
Flibansaren?

Yeah don't drink on that. It doesn't really work anyway.
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Yeah, that's the one. I couldn't remember the name and couldn't be assed to google it. It was bunk, anyway.
 

"Stephens said she knew she was different from the age of five, but she didn’t have the words or examples in her life to explain it. Growing up there had been no internet, no famous trans people in the media to identify with and no one to talk to. “I knew enough to know that what I was feeling was not acceptable,” said Stephens."

See? When I say that this huge outbreak of trans teenagers on the Internet isn't out of nowhere, I'm not talking out of my ass.
 
Corn Flakes said:
Goddamn, I was about to post that exact link.

Unfortunately, that's an experiment from 1996. If you presented it nowadays I'm sure you'd get screeched out of the room by people nitpicking "errors" or saying that the patient probably didn't have dysphoria or whatever.
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Oh hell yeah.

Troons are all over it.

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My sister in law goes to the doctor to ask for some sleeping aids, and gets socked with a prescription for a daily anti-anxiety med. Troons want to take a lawn mower to their genitals and dress in thigh high fishnets to attend their kids baseball practice but that's not a mental issue! That's totally healthy. Just misunderstood. Abort all research.
 
Kirkorov said:
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As much as I'd like there to be a miracule cure to gender dysphoria, I don't think having one or a handful of cases where primozode was an effective treatment necessarily means it would work for the majority of the population, given how differently individuals can respond to drugs to treat mental disorders. If there was a larger case study, I would be more :optimistic: about it as a treatment, but right now there isn't a ton of evidence for its efficacy, especially since it has many side effects as others has mentioned.
 
Corn Flakes said:
Every time people demand a miracle cure, it comes with severe side-effects. I remember a few years ago all the feminists clamoring for the "female viagra" to be approved by the FDA when in fact its effect was observed in only a tiny minority of women, and if taken alongside alcohol it turned basically into a date-rape drug. But they didn't care, they wanted it noooooooow.
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Same with the male pill
 
Ceci said:
As much as I'd like there to be a miracule cure to gender dysphoria, I don't think having one or a handful of cases where primozode was an effective treatment necessarily means it would work for the majority of the population, given how differently individuals can respond to drugs to treat mental disorders. If there was a larger case study, I would be more :optimistic: about it as a treatment, but right now there isn't a ton of evidence for its efficacy, especially since it has many side effects as others has mentioned.
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There's also the fact that no one can agree on what gender dysphoria means. A lot of "egg hatchers" insist that if you were perfectly fine with your sex but are slightly happier when crossdressing, you have dysphoria. I'd wager the criteria for a diagnosis from a psychiatrist aren't particularly strict, either.
 
Ceci said:
As much as I'd like there to be a miracule cure to gender dysphoria, I don't think having one or a handful of cases where primozode was an effective treatment necessarily means it would work for the majority of the population, given how differently individuals can respond to drugs to treat mental disorders. If there was a larger case study, I would be more :optimistic: about it as a treatment, but right now there isn't a ton of evidence for its efficacy, especially since it has many side effects as others has mentioned.
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I don't think that's the point (well not what I'm saying personally). This one study is certainly not enough. And back then trannies were quite rare. So I don't even think there was any hurry to study it, let alone create treatment.
However, currently no one would be able to even try to develop an anti-psychotic, or any other pharmaceutical to treat gender dysphoria. They aren't allowed. Lisa Littman couldn't even do starter research on why droves of little girls are now suddenly gender dysphoric without every oily manbeast troon in a mini-skirt bitching to the heavens- and I believe they got her fired.
 
Kirkorov said:
I don't think that's the point (well not what I'm saying personally). This one study is certainly not enough. And back then trannies were quite rare. So I don't even think there was any hurry to study it, let alone create treatment.
However, currently no one would be able to even try to develop an anti-psychotic, or any other pharmaceutical to treat gender dysphoria. They aren't allowed. Lisa Littman couldn't even do starter research on why droves of little girls are now suddenly gender dysphoric without every oily manbeast troon in a mini-skirt bitching to the heavens- and I believe they got her fired.
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That's the big problem. Trying to treat/cure gender dysphoria is getting lumped with trying to pray the gay away. And because of that a lot of dicks are getting chopped and a lot of idiots are putting crossdressing pictures online that they will regret in 20-30 years. Assuming they live another 20-30 years, anyway...
 
Kirkorov said:
I don't think that's the point (well not what I'm saying personally). This one study is certainly not enough. And back then trannies were quite rare. So I don't even think there was any hurry to study it, let alone create treatment.
However, currently no one would be able to even try to develop an anti-psychotic, or any other pharmaceutical to treat gender dysphoria. They aren't allowed. Lisa Littman couldn't even do starter research on why droves of little girls are now suddenly gender dysphoric without every oily manbeast troon in a mini-skirt bitching to the heavens- and I believe they got her fired.
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Oh I absolutely agree that there should be more research into treating gender dysphoria other than pumping men full of horse piss and lopping their balls off, and that alternate treatment research is surpressed in the name of transphobia. But as FangsofJeff said, the definition of GD is so vague and variable from person to person, trying to treat gender dysphoria itself may be a red herring.
From troon to troon, their personal definitions of dysphoria seem to range from general depression, insecurity with gender roles/bodily insecurity in general, failure to understand the nuances of gender roles due to autism, to fetishizing crossdressing. There's definitely many trannies out there who have some "true" form of gender dysphoria because they are actually crazy and need medication to ease their symptoms, but I imagine they are only a small portion of the general troon population nowadays. I think before people leap into pumping trannies with all different sorts of drugs to fix their brains, they should focus on therapy, as much of the current troon population seems to have a socially-induced dysphoria rather than actual insanity compelling them to self-mutilate.
 
Unpaid Emotional Labourer said:
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homewayhalf said:
Honest question, why do troons always ask how old they look along with whether they pass? What’s the relevance of their age? Are they trying to look young or old?
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Castration/devirilization often has a enyouthening effect, and they've probably noticed/think the softening of their features with their hormonal treatments creates a disparity in their apparent age. Hypogonadism in a male can be something like a fountain of youth for some.

DeMDemonz said:

"Stephens said she knew she was different from the age of five, but she didn’t have the words or examples in her life to explain it. Growing up there had been no internet, no famous trans people in the media to identify with and no one to talk to. “I knew enough to know that what I was feeling was not acceptable,” said Stephens."

See? When I say that this huge outbreak of trans teenagers on the Internet isn't out of nowhere, I'm not talking out of my ass.
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Tolerance is a fatal disease. Islam is right in their treatment of these aberrations.
 
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