RWBY - The Hindenburg on which Rooster Teeth rests its hopes, dreams and future

[Random Internet Person]

They don't think that, they know it. Miles is a spineless cuck who has bent over at every opportunity to the rabid shippers to appease them and Barbara/Aryn, Yang and Blake VA's, who are weirdly invested in their own characters scissoring each other.

I’d say it ain’t just shipping if bringing Neo back is any indication. CRWBY will do anything to get people to like them.

 

[Rondo Richter Belmont]

Funny thing, someone posted this: View attachment 1280604


If you want Arryn to be in the OP, I got some stuff in regards to that:

• Apparently way back when RWBY was first starting out, Miles and Arryn dated and they broke up (albeit on good terms) because Arryn wanted to move to Los Angeles to further her acting career.
• Arryn made this tweet after appearing on one of RWBY's many podcasts which led to the line of thinking of Adam Taurus being an abusive ex which is probably as argued about as much as "Monty's vision"....if not more. (https://twitter.com/arrynzech/status/833440353264865280?lang=en), (http://archive.li/iGWUk)

Also, when it comes to the idea of shippers going crazy, there's a big consensus that Arryn and Barbara enable/support/play into this A LOT. More than anyone in CRWBY. (https://streamable.com/fcn35)

There's also a lot of talk about Beauty & The Beast and how Blake, Yang, and Adam play into these roles, but it's mostly scattered amongst Twitter, Tumblr, and Reddit, and I believe Arryn played into that too, but again, that's stuff that's scattered over the Internet.

I remember the Twitter post made by Arryn where she said that Yang was the Beast instead of Adam (Despite the guy literally having so many nods to the Beast, before his redesign into a Tetsuya Nomura reject in V5), and Adam was instead Gaston...Aside from his obsession over Blake, Adam resembled Gaston far less than even Yang to her Goldilocks allusion.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I remember the Twitter post made by Arryn where she said that Yang was the Beast instead of Adam (Despite the guy literally having so many nods to the Beast, before his redesign into a Tetsuya Nomura reject in V5), and Adam was instead Gaston...Aside from his obsession over Blake, Adam resembled Gaston far less than even Yang to her Goldilocks allusion.

Well, the fairy tail allusions in the show were always superficial at best. Also if you wanna talk Gaston...

 

[Berrakh]

They don't think that, they know it. Miles is a spineless cuck who has bent over at every opportunity to the rabid shippers to appease them and Barbara/Aryn, Yang and Blake VA's, who are weirdly invested in their own characters scissoring each other.

Okay so Bumbleshippers are entitled, not insecure. Not uncommon. Are they a big part of the fanbase or just big among many factions?

 

[Random Internet Person]

Okay so Bumbleshippers are entitled, not insecure. Not uncommon. Are they a big part of the fanbase or just big among many factions?

They’re pretty much the biggest and most vocal shippers in the fandom. The other big ones are Ren/Nora (everyone loves them), Jaune/Phyrra (Phyrra’s dead), and Ruby/Weiss (haven’t been really given much and what we get paints them more as of a comedy duo). There’s also Qrow/Clover shippers, but Clover’s dead.

 

[Berrakh]

They’re pretty much the biggest and most vocal shippers in the fandom. The other big ones are Ren/Nora (everyone loves them), Jaune/Phyrra (Phyrra’s dead), and Ruby/Weiss (haven’t been really given much and what we get paints them more as of a comedy duo). There’s also Qrow/Clover shippers, but Clover’s dead.

I am just wondering if they're small enough that everyone else can find them unlikable. Because sometimes fandoms are essentially defined by one large faction so they don't scrutinize themselves (obviously).

Sorry for asking so much. I always find this crap insanely interesting as like a crappy drama anthropologist.

 

[Chilson]

I am just wondering if they're small enough that everyone else can find them unlikable. Because sometimes fandoms are essentially defined by one large faction so they don't scrutinize themselves (obviously).

Sorry for asking so much. I always find this crap insanely interesting as like a crappy drama anthropologist.

The issue is they USED to be small. But since the show has only gone further down hill, so many people have outright dropped the show that they have become the primary fanbase.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I am just wondering if they're small enough that everyone else can find them unlikable. Because sometimes fandoms are essentially defined by one large faction so they don't scrutinize themselves (obviously).

Sorry for asking so much. I always find this crap insanely interesting as like a crappy drama anthropologist.

It’s cool. It’s usually what happens in the months between volumes.

 

[Berrakh]

The issue is they USED to be small. But since the show has only gone further down hill, so many people have outright dropped the show that they have become the primary fanbase.

Picture is becoming clearer now.

It’s cool. It’s usually what happens in the months between volumes.

I love shipping drama because shippers do everything shitty fans do at lightspeed and with extreme prejudice. Namely they compress the work or media into just what they like and damn everything else.

Character has important relationship to some other girl? Fuck her and anyone who likes her.
Caring about if their relationship is canon above and beyond if the show that carries it is even good.
Often making their own ship uninteresting by not wanting any drama to potentially come between its components.

Fans are often bad because they scrutinize and rationalize fiction to the point where it no longer resembles itself. Often with very selective rationales for what matters and what does not so it can all fit with their subjective interest in the work. And with shippers it's very apparent.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Picture is becoming clearer now.


I love shipping drama because shippers do everything shitty fans do at lightspeed and with extreme prejudice. Namely they compress the work or media into just what they like and damn everything else.

Character has important relationship to some other girl? Fuck her and anyone who likes her.
Caring about if their relationship is canon above and beyond if the show that carries it is even good.
Often making their own ship uninteresting by not wanting any drama to potentially come between its components.

Fans are often bad because they scrutinize and rationalize fiction to the point where it no longer resembles itself. Often with very selective rationales for what matters and what does not so it can all fit with their subjective interest in the work. And with shippers it's very apparent.

Have I got the video for you!

 

[Eugene90]

Have I got the video for you! https://youtube.com/watch?v=bVkuMFZl3vY

Honestly the Qrow and Clover thing is just a second coming of Keith and Lance from Voltron. And a bunch of people were fuck pissed as all hell when they got 'queerbaited' there.

So the backlash here is very similar to what happened to that shitshow.

 

[Berrakh]

Have I got the video for you! https://youtube.com/watch?v=bVkuMFZl3vY

Not sure how I feel about all that. For one it's a good video on why trying to please these people is a fucking nightmare because she constantly frets and tries to make light about friendly fire. But on the other hand I can't really disagree that promoting a pairing as a pairing in a show where that kind of fanservice is expected is just dumb. It's hard not to think it was queerbaiting a docile, easily pleased gay audience.

But this is why shipping is trash. They wrote and staged an intentionally flirty relationship, to the point where explicit confirmation seems like a formality, but it ultimately never receives it. Again prizing some hokey confession scene as the necessary component. When really sometimes that's just corny and not the goal. I always find the romance plots I've ever liked tend to not rely on that crutch.

Honestly the Qrow and Clover thing is just a second coming of Keith and Lance from Voltron. And a bunch of people were fuck pissed as all hell when they got 'queerbaited' there.

So the backlash here is very similar to what happened to that shitshow.

It does depend on how badly they marketed those two as partners. If you're gonna queerbait, alienating straight fans often, it's not anyone's fault but your own when you reap the whirlwind of gay rage.

 

[Rondo Richter Belmont]

Well, the fairy tail allusions in the show were always superficial at best. Also if you wanna talk Gaston...View attachment 1282113

The allusions RWBY does to most literary characters is shallow, but the idea that Adam was Gaston from the start is stupid of Arryn to say and doing her best of convincing people otherwise by throwing Yang in as the true Beast all along is r-e-tarded.

As for the Gaston thing, can't say that I'm surprised about Gaston being based on someone's ex.

Not sure how I feel about all that. For one it's a good video on why trying to please these people is a fucking nightmare because she constantly frets and tries to make light about friendly fire. But on the other hand I can't really disagree that promoting a pairing as a pairing in a show where that kind of fanservice is expected is just dumb. It's hard not to think it was queerbaiting a docile, easily pleased gay audience.

But this is why shipping is trash. They wrote and staged an intentionally flirty relationship, to the point where explicit confirmation seems like a formality, but it ultimately never receives it. Again prizing some hokey confession scene as the necessary component. When really sometimes that's just corny and not the goal. I always find the romance plots I've ever liked tend to not rely on that crutch.


It does depend on how badly they marketed those two as partners. If you're gonna queerbait, alienating straight fans often, it's not anyone's fault but your own when you reap the whirlwind of gay rage.

Funny thing about the infamous Klance controversy is that neither characters ever were marketed or "baited" as a couple, the two characters were the "Rivals who become friends" type of relationship and Lance openly expressed nothing but pure interest in women solely since he debuted on episode one of Defender.

It was just Shipping Jihadists who were mad they didn't get their “UwU Bois!" pairing, who achieved a level of asshurt so bad that they made an AU version of VLD just to make their "One True Pairing" deal come true and degrading every character into Burger King Kids Club stereotypes.

 

[Eugene90]

The allusions RWBY does to most literary characters is shallow, but the idea that Adam was Gaston from the start is stupid of Arryn to say and doing her best of convincing people otherwise by throwing Yang in as the true Beast all along is r-e-tarded.

As for the Gaston thing, can't say that I'm surprised about Gaston being based on someone's ex.


Funny thing about the infamous Klance controversy is that neither characters ever were marketed or "baited" as a couple, the two characters were the "Rivals who become friends" type of relationship and Lance openly expressed nothing but pure interest in women solely since he debuted on episode one of Defender.

It was just Shipping Jihadists who were made they didn't get their UwU Bois!" pairing, who achieved a level of asshurt so bad that they made an AU version of VLD just to make their "One True Pairing" deal come true and degrading every character into Burger King Kids Club stereotypes.

This is why nowadays you cannot have nice things without people going "omfg are they gonna fuck?" Whenever same gender characters get all buddy buddy irrespective of their preferences.

Because honestly, what even is "just friends" anymore nowadays, right?

It's always headcannon this, headcannon that. I swear, these same gender shippers are such autistic faggots at times.

 

[Berrakh]

The clover guy does look really gay. Anime gay face.

 

[Eugene90]

The clover guy does look really gay. Anime gay face.

You'd think it's as if they're trying to fill a quota here but never went all the way with it because it draws the audience in who just want to see gay potential out of PC-ness rather than genuine interest for the character that isn't just based solely on sexual preferences.

 

[LordBaron]

Have I got the video for you! https://youtube.com/watch?v=bVkuMFZl3vY

Honestly, I see where they're coming from. Lesbians are a "safe ship" because girl on girl is hot and there isn't really enough solid GBT in the show. The moment that wink happens, everyone began to ship it and even some members of RT, knowing full well what they were going to do to Clover, were joining in.

By the time we were going into Episode 12, everyone was on board with Lucky Charms even though there were clear signs that Clover was not long for this world, especially when someone apparently leaked the spoiler on Reddit and that, while the names were blotted out, people were easily able to piece together that Tyrian was gonna kill someone.

We just didn't know how it was gonna go down. The fact that Clover died in the most dishonorable way possible might have stoked the flames.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Someone on Reddit analyzed Blake’s fights. The conclusions: not so great. https://www.reddit.com/r/RWBY/comments/gh9r66/ive_noticed_a_growing_problem_with_blakes_fights/

 

[Disc]

Someone on Reddit analyzed Blake’s fights. The conclusions: not so great. https://www.reddit.com/r/RWBY/comments/gh9r66/ive_noticed_a_growing_problem_with_blakes_fights/

Eh, there’s a weird tone here.

Theresthe very notable omission ofBlake OHKO-ing Adam in volume 5. Haven didn’t count fuck you volume 5 is a cute joke, but in the context of trying to make a consistent case, it feels like a deliberate omission.

It also doesn’t mention the train fights, where both Yang and Weiss lose completely (Yang barely gets a hit in against Neo, and Weiss gets planted into the floor), While Blake basically Perfect combos Roman Torchwick for thirty seconds. (Her beatdown is basically 2:00 to 2:30).

This feels a lot like Arin Hanson's Zelda sequelitis, in that it works better if you don't remember all the details. But the more details you do know, the more flimsy it looks.

A lot of the other fights are more 'we wanna show off this new character' more than Blake specifically being weak.

 

[ChevroletBlackboard]

It also doesn’t mention the train fights, where both Yang and Weiss lose completely (Yang barely gets a hit in against Neo, and Weiss gets planted into the floor), While Blake basically Perfect combos Roman Torchwick for thirty seconds. (Her beatdown is basically 2:00 to 2:30).

It... did though...

Volume 2, train fights: I'm just noting this as another aversion as Blake actually has the best showing of any of the RWBY girls here (especially compared to Ruby who doesn't even get a cool 1v1). She flatterns Torchwick in seconds while Weiss begins her Cross-Continental-Jobbing-Streak and Yang loses to a mute with a Femdom OnlyFans. Go Blake! More of this please!