Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[najobo]

It’s official: people are starting to unperson me for daring to tell them the virus isn’t the plague, we’re not all going to die, and that protests aren’t about haircuts but about people not being able to survive without money and food. Apparently people don’t like it when you tell them they’re condemning hundreds of millions to starve to death with their selfish “everyone stay in your bunkers forever” NEET logic.

It's fucking stunning. Does the average 'Murkan seriously NOT know what happens when your neighbors all go broke? Hint: it's not pretty. Especially not if you, like most Karens, post nonstop on Facebook about how "well MYYYYY job lets me work remote" and "guns are SCARY and EVIL omg." And I'm sure those three bow-besotted Yorkies you own will be a fantastic deterrent!

Good thing government is yellow-bellied and obsessed with its own safety, 'cause if lockdown Karen had her way...

 

[MrBlueSocks]

I agree that more people in general seem to be 'over it' in my experience in England. Although the stay at home orders are still in effect the difference from 4 weeks ago is big. Way more cars out on the roads, more shops and businesses finding ways to open. The definition of 'necessary' is being stretched to within an inch of its life.

The thing is here the lockdown was successful because it was embraced, it did not need to be strongly enforced. At the start it had massive support but now people are bored of it, have seen the threat of the virus was overstated, don't see any official reopening planning and need their lives to get back to normal.

Because restrictions have a fair amount of leeway and no great threat of punishment behind them people are just going ahead and doing it. I see tradesmen who swore off certain jobs a few weeks ago just getting on with it now. People who delayed moving house are now doing it anyway, although the guidance is exactly the same.

The government is already too late in lifting restrictions. Whatever benefit the lockdown had is now probably having a 'boy who cried wolf' effect and people are sick of the whole thing and not bothering with any of it. If they had instead stuck with sheltering vulnerable people, no mass gatherings, social distancing and handwashing then people would probably be observing those more rigorously.

Agree with all of this. The number of joggers and casual cyclists out today was comical. Most people at my (really not essential) place of work are back in , on a hastily improvised split shift system to thin the office out. All my neighbours and local friends I've chatted to seem to agree that it's time to get back to normal as it hasn't been as bad as we were worried about.
The boy who cried wolf effect is a genuine worry, as there will be a big one some point in the future. Unless something else wipes us out first of course.

So why is it still the official position? Given that the population has had enough, and it's clear that medically speaking "It's just the (fairly bad) flu, bro"

It's my belief that all the smug twat Marketing/PR/Advertising types are too caught up sniffing their own farts about the propaganda they are producing . There's still so much messaging hammering home the: Stay at home, NHS heroes, British pluck, Troubled times ... blah blah blah. Not just government adverts, but most other corporate ads have worked in a Covid angle. "In these troubled uncertain times, we're helping you..."
These people aren't engineers, they aren't thinking remotely logically. Their industry is about emotions and feeling for which way the opinion is blowing. It's like a clique of bitchy teenaged girls or redditors have got hold of the reins of society.
Politicians are drawn from the same personality type. Their primary skills are interpersonal interactions, what they care about is perceptions. Bugger facts or truth.

Not sure what I'm trying to say here, sorry. Just that the lockdown has become its own rationale now. Very little to do with logic.

And I hate the media so fucking much.

 

[5ever a crab]

Folks, early on in this thread recommended people who wanted new computers/TVs/electronic gadgets get them soon, since supplies from China may be cut off. Got that computer, sitting in a box.

But have noticed there seems to be no shortage of electronic gadgets available. So many that retailers are running sales. Got a 32" TV from Best Buy last night for $89, free delivery. Replacing one of the same kind am giving kid for her upcoming moveout.

Was there THAT much product in the pipeline? Was there THAT much product in warehouses? Or are supplies going to dry up all of a sudden? Have no idea. Welcome any ideas/suggestions/hypotheses. because this has been a surprise, even more of a surprise than people going apeshit for water and paper products.

I guess people are just buying back-up electronics, just in case their PC shits the bed and they can't buy a new one immediately.

 

[Garm]

Folks, early on in this thread recommended people who wanted new computers/TVs/electronic gadgets get them soon, since supplies from China may be cut off. Got that computer, sitting in a box.

But have noticed there seems to be no shortage of electronic gadgets available. So many that retailers are running sales. Got a 32" TV from Best Buy last night for $89, free delivery. Replacing one of the same kind am giving kid for her upcoming moveout.

Was there THAT much product in the pipeline? Was there THAT much product in warehouses? Or are supplies going to dry up all of a sudden? Have no idea. Welcome any ideas/suggestions/hypotheses. because this has been a surprise, even more of a surprise than people going apeshit for water and paper products.

I believe it had been backed up for a while. Menards kept its 11% rebate program going on for what seems to be forever. (Normally it came around 4 times a year, or so it seemed.)

So I think the warehouses are bulging with product just no one was buying stuff fast enough.

Agree with all of this. The number of joggers and casual cyclists out today was comical. Most people at my (really not essential) place of work are back in , on a hastily improvised split shift system to thin the office out. All my neighbours and local friends I've chatted to seem to agree that it's time to get back to normal as it hasn't been as bad as we were worried about.
The boy who cried wolf effect is a genuine worry, as there will be a big one some point in the future. Unless something else wipes us out first of course.

So why is it still the official position? Given that the population has had enough, and it's clear that medically speaking "It's just the (fairly bad) flu, bro"

It's my belief that all the smug twat Marketing/PR/Advertising types are too caught up sniffing their own farts about the propaganda they are producing . There's still so much messaging hammering home the: Stay at home, NHS heroes, British pluck, Troubled times ... blah blah blah. Not just government adverts, but most other corporate ads have worked in a Covid angle. "In these troubled uncertain times, we're helping you..."
These people aren't engineers, they aren't thinking remotely logically. Their industry is about emotions and feeling for which way the opinion is blowing. It's like a clique of bitchy teenaged girls or redditors have got hold of the reins of society.
Politicians are drawn from the same personality type. Their primary skills are interpersonal interactions, what they care about is perceptions. Bugger facts or truth.

Not sure what I'm trying to say here, sorry. Just that the lockdown has become its own rationale now. Very little to do with logic.

And I hate the media so fucking much.

Illinois decided to reduce lock downs once Indiana said "Fuck it." They made masks in public mandatory but opened up service businesses in a limited capacity. They also started dismantling the medical center they built inside a convention plaza.

Now it is like "what the fuck were you jackasses screaming about?" I doubt that the governor actually listened to the people but simply realized that half of Chicago would just leave for Indiana.

 

[JosephStalin]

Everyone's taking advantage of the $1,200 trumpbux. I went to Sam's Club the other day and it was wall to wall with people either buying 65+ inch TVs and PS4s or whole flatbeds of Keystone Light 30 packs. Or both.

No doubt. So there's a good bit of money coming back into the economy. Personally, saving a good part and spending the rest, over time. Looking to use some of that money to lay in emergency stocks of certain things. Bought the TV but that's a replacement.

Yeah, a lot of people will just piss this money away. Least it's getting into the economy. But many desperately needed it for housing/food/utilities/etc. If this largesse saved even one American child from having to be homeless or hungry, it's worth it. God knows how much we've blown on people overseas who love our money but hate our guts.

Do you believe there will be a second round of stimulus checks? I believe if there is, it will happen in a couple of months, as people start getting back to work. Get them a leg up on recovering.

@Garm - What you said could indeed be true. Wonder how much product is being shipped in from Asia these days. Far as state overreactions to the ChiCom flu, could understand it in the beginning. But after a couple of weeks the house arrests needed to be rationalized. Didn't happen ANYWHERE there were house arrests, far as I know. Why not? You guessed it...politics trumping common sense. And it will be a very long time, if ever, before most people will believe and trust their government or law enforcement, least at the state/county/city levels. They may not cooperate whole-heartedly, or at all.

 

[Revo]

Here come the lolsuits (because even a pandemic will not put a stop to those LMAO):

https://youtube.com/watch?v=69JGDzCZGR8

Here come the lolsuits (because even a pandemic will not put a stop to those LMAO):

Spoiler: VIDEO ARCHIVE

Isn't weird and fishy then the WHO praise now Sweden as Styx mentionned?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=2QVCg2eVPbA
One Youtuber gived some food for thoughts.

Isn't weird and fishy then the WHO praise now Sweden as Styx mentionned?

Spoiler: VIDEO ARCHIVE

The meat plants are two, in Canada. Cargill being the biggest. As far as I'm aware. It is however the largest single-site outbreak in Canada, a cluster of 1,200 people and counting- 821 of them workers. There's a whole shitstorm happening because they want to reopen. The two plants that are most affected supply 2/3rds of Canada's beef.

Cluster situations really do make me wonder what is going on with the spread. The meat plants are really curious as I would imagine people handling the meat should be masked. Having someone coughing or sneezing all over the beef their packaging wouldn't be 'good' even in the best of circumstances. Why is it so virulent in the meat plant though? There was another group of cases linked to a Curling Bonspiel, for doctors of all things, and another group was connected to a Rally Dinner. The Newfoundland cluster was connected to a funeral.

Did Cargill have some major employee event that facilitated this? because it's weird how other events didn't seem to cause nearly as many people infected. You wouldn't think workers in a meat packing plant would be so close together as to spread it that way, especially as people became more cautious and more government rules regarding covid came into effect.

1. Cargill (Archive)
2. Curling Bonspiel (Archive)
3. Rally Dinner (Archive)
4. Newfoundland cluster (Archive)

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/05/01/national/robots-serve-coronavirus-patients-tokyo-hotels-unveiled/?fbclid=IwAR0TXnMjH0ZSkR9xeyGHUfj1SioUt8YDYeZVT1atmH3-ILI6K4TvvsUbmzc#.Xq5RciVlCEc

Should the West get robots to serve covid patients as well?

Tokyo unveils robots that will serve coronavirus patients at hotels (Archive)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=J9Vh9yqu5Qo
Looks like the chink chicom check didn't clear at ABC.

Looks like the chink chicom check didn't clear at ABC.

Spoiler: VIDEO ARCHIVE

This is going to go over real fucking well.

Oregon governor Kate Brown extends lockdown date to JULY 6TH!

Oregon only has a total of 104 deaths. Unbelievable!


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[CeleryStalks]

Michigan, USA

No major developments today.

Spoiler: Michigan Recap

SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN
Shelter-in-place order and shutdown of everything non-essential from Tuesday March 24 to Monday April 13. Friday, May 1, Friday, May 15 May 1, maybe? (archive) (executive order saved on KF) . The Republican-controlled legislature has refused to extend Governor Whitmer's emergency authority. Governor Whitmer insists her emergency orders are all still in effect (Rundown on the laws in question, follow-up). The legislature has passed a bill that would incorporate many of her orders into law, while not extending her emergency authority. She has previously said she will not sign any bill that limits her office's powers (archive). She has not yet signed or vetoed this bill.

OTHER SHUTDOWNS
Recap from NPR
Lawsuits against the shutdown order are multiplying (archive, archive). However, "all deadlines applicable to the commencement of all civil and probate actions and proceedings" are suspended until the end of the states of emergency and disaster. Executive order, and thus in limbo. (archive). Major protest at the State Capitol April 15 (A&N thread). Minor protest outside Governor's Mansion April 23 (archive). Protest at the State Capitol April 30 (A&N Thread).
The Big Three Auto manufacturers (Ford, GM, Chrysler) have closed all factories in the USA, putting well over 150,000 workers out of work. This figure does not include workers at supplier factories, which were also obliged to close. (archive) (archive) (archive). They are still making a small number of parts for emergency vehicles, and production of ventilators, etc. has begun (archive- GM's ventilators, April 17.) Ford is preparing to reopen (archive - April 26).

ECONOMY AND MISCELLANY
Over 1 million unemployment claims filed = 10% of the total population of the state, nearly 25% of the workforce (Archive - April 16).
Big Brother is watching, and he approves. Massive phone-tracking project reveals Michigan travel down by 45%, compared to 40% nation-wide (website) (news article archive).
Car crashes are down, fatal car crashes are down, and overall death is actually down. (archive - April 12)

FREE STUFF!
Evictions suspended while the state of emergency lasts (archive) Executive order. May or may not still be valid.
Water will be turned back on for all households while the crisis lasts (archive) Executive order. May or may not still be valid.

HEALTH CARE
Hydroxychloroquine banned by governor's order (archive). Nevermind LOL! Now she's asking the federal government for it and claiming the ban was a mistake in the first place. (archive). Detroit-area hospitals are testing the drug's effectiveness as a preventative on first responders and health-care workers (archive).
Elective surgeries are banned. Maybe? Who knows. If/when in effect, abortions were not included in the ban (thread).
Up-to-date count of available hospital beds, etc. in the State (the Detroit area is "Section 2, North and South.")(government website)
Detroit field hospital admits first 8 Corona patients. It will only be taking the less-serious cases. No one on ventilators.(archive - April 14)
Another field hospital in Detroit scaled back after drop in cases. Original plan was to open with 1,100 beds. Now they are only going to open with 250, planned to open April 20. (archive - April 11).
Beaumont Hospital, in Wayne, resuming normal operations after having been emptied to prepare for a Corona surge that has not yet arrived. (archive)
Our statistics are inaccurate, because deaths are being both overcounted and undercounted (archive).

LAW AND ORDER
All localities given more discretion to release prisoners early (archive). It was an executive order. Who knows if it's still valid?
Lansing (the capitol) police are not physically responding to minor crimes such as larceny, property damage, and break-ins to unoccupied buildings, including garages. Other police are adopting similar policies (archive) (archive).
Detroit shootings up, but most other crime down (archive - April 30); Muskegon police report crime is up (archive).
Breaking the lockdown is a misdemeanor, punishable by $1500 fines and 90 days jail time. (Still valid???) Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D) has stated there will not be a "ramp up" of police enforcement (archive). The attorney general has left it to local law enforcement to close businesses, as her hands are full with price-gougers and con artists (archive). She is also leaving enforcement of the stay-at-home order to local discretion until the courts weigh in on it (archive).
The police cannot, at present, pull drivers over simply for being out during the shutdown (archive). Local police in the rural north and in Detroit suburbs have alike stated they will not be enforcing parts of the order (archive).

OFFICIAL DEATH TOLL

The State of Michigan reviews deaths and adds overlooked cases to the official statistics three times a week. 75 deaths were added yesterday. Today's low numbers are most likely due to the weekend.

Regular reviews of death certificate data maintained in Vital Records reporting systems are conducted by MDHHS staff three times per week. As a part of this process, records that identify COVID-19 infection as a contributing factor to death are compared against all laboratory confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the Michigan Disease Surveillance System (MDSS). If a death certificate is matched to a confirmed COVID-19 case and that record in the MDSS does not indicate the individual died, the MDSS record is updated to indicate the death and the appropriate local health department is notified. These matched deaths are then included with mortality information posted to the Michigan Coronavirus website.

Detroit Metro (pop. 3,860,000 total; 1,796/sq. mi.; 694/sq km):*

30,572 confirmed / 3,278 dead
30,247 confirmed / 3,254 dead yesterday
(i.e. 24 new deaths, down 109 from previous day)
Normal Detroit Metro Death Rate: 104 per day.**

Other Michigan (6,120,000; 65/sq. mi.; 25/sq km):

13,182 confirmed / 771 dead
12,960 confirmed / 766 dead yesterday
(i.e. 5 new deaths, down 16 from previous day)
Normal not-Detroit Death Rate: 167 per day**

All Michigan (9,990,000; 103/sq. mi.; 40/sq km):

43,754 confirmed / 4,049 dead
43,207 confirmed / 4,020 dead yesterday
(i.e. 29 new deaths, down 125 from previous day, down 50 without the adjustment)
Normal Michigan Death Rate: 271 per day.**

Death toll doubled since: April 15.
We have been (were?) locked down since: March 24 (until April 30?),
Masks have been mandatory in stores since: April 27 (until April 30?).

Detroit Metro Daily Deaths Last Seven Days:
60 / 128*** / 84 / 89*** / 40 / 133*** / 29 = 558***

State Government site, daily - today's archive;
State Gov site, total, includes breakdowns by sex, age, race and ethnicity - today's archive.
*Here defined as the City of Detroit, and Macomb, Oakland, and Wayne Counties, minus state and federal prisoners, who are not counted towards any county's cases, but are kept in categories of their own.
** As of 2018.
*** 40, 40, and 75 statewide deaths, respectively, were added on these days upon State review. Presumably most were in Detroit, but I don't know exactly how many.
Also one Ann Arbor man allegedly killed by his roommate in a Corona-related dispute (archive). The suspect has been released from custody while the investigation continues (archive).

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Political news. Seems right wing has finally unified under lift lockdowns now. Except madrid and catalonia. Which are still clamoring for keeping lockdowns longer than expected. With their density I get it. Either way Sanchez has officially said from now on the ball's on the autonomies' camp. So they can finally shut up about it. They won't of course, they'll just look more and more ridiculous as they rant about what they themselves are doing.

Also, a netherlands journalist tried to shame spain for not doing an "intelligent lockdown" like them and Illa, being the idiot that he is, only had vague answers about how exemplary the population's response is. I already talked about how stupid Illa is and it seems everyone agrees as he's getting memed to hell and back. But it seems netherlands thinks that means they've been successful at image cleaning. They are wrong. Deeply so. And the smugness seen by their social media yet again reminds spaniards of what kind of filth we can find in that shithole. As of right now it seems the only thing most spaniards agree on is that Phillip II was absolutely right about how to deal with the netherlands, and we should be going for round 2. Nothing we hate more as a country than excessive pride.

So, it's a common cold coronavirus. Might having antibodies to it give some protection against the China virus? Like you get sick but not violently sick. Just a thought.

Unlikely. It made the rounds here in spain last season, and the corona outbreak was shortly after. So, yeah.

 

[Aqua Panda]

So it has gotten quite bad in my area. A number of people came forward to a major local apartment complex and flat out said they couldn't make rent if the lockdowns extended to June. The apartment management said, "fine, you're giving us 30 days notice. Be out by then." This same complex is already having problems with people who can't make May rent.

My area doesn't have any eviction stay so a whole lot of people who rent with this management company are about to find themselves out on the street and a decent chunk will probably have nowhere to go. Most will run out of food money by the middle of the month.

Also, the housing market is a full shitshow right now. Large businesses have been buying up houses and renting them. They are facing the same problems.

The longer these lockdowns are in place the worse the damage will be. Keep in mind even when they end, it could still take people months to find new jobs if they weren't furloughed. The aftereffects of shuttering large parts of the country aren't just going to clear up overnight. It'll take years to fully heal some of the damage.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

So it has gotten quite bad in my area. A number of people came forward to a major local apartment complex and flat out said they couldn't make rent if the lockdowns extended to June. The apartment management said, "fine, you're giving us 30 days notice. Be out by then." This same complex is already having problems with people who can't make May rent.

My area doesn't have any eviction stay so a whole lot of people who rent with this management company are about to find themselves out on the street and a decent chunk will probably have nowhere to go. Most will run out of food money by the middle of the month.

Also, the housing market is a full shitshow right now. Large businesses have been buying up houses and renting them. They are facing the same problems.

The longer these lockdowns are in place the worse the damage will be. Keep in mind even when they end, it could still take people months to find new jobs if they weren't furloughed. The aftereffects of shuttering large parts of the country aren't just going to clear up overnight. It'll take years to fully heal some of the damage.

What's the chance of NGO's picking up food distribution? Homeless shelters? How do you think the government will react? Any prior experience with managing a crisis of this kind or preestablished initiatives? Where can we send suggestions to deal with this mess to see if the idiots in charge might listen?

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

So it has gotten quite bad in my area. A number of people came forward to a major local apartment complex and flat out said they couldn't make rent if the lockdowns extended to June. The apartment management said, "fine, you're giving us 30 days notice. Be out by then." This same complex is already having problems with people who can't make May rent.

My area doesn't have any eviction stay so a whole lot of people who rent with this management company are about to find themselves out on the street and a decent chunk will probably have nowhere to go. Most will run out of food money by the middle of the month.

Also, the housing market is a full shitshow right now. Large businesses have been buying up houses and renting them. They are facing the same problems.

The longer these lockdowns are in place the worse the damage will be. Keep in mind even when they end, it could still take people months to find new jobs if they weren't furloughed. The aftereffects of shuttering large parts of the country aren't just going to clear up overnight. It'll take years to fully heal some of the damage.

Holy shit, where's this happening? Also, kicking out a large group of disgruntled people sounds like a good recipe for cooking up an angry mob. At least one of the ex-tenants has got to be crazy enough to dox the landlord and set fire to his house. Or at least report his rapaciousness to the local news agency. You'd think a business owner might be somewhat concerned over their public reputation, but maybe I think that way because I live in a civilized part of the country where people still care about their reputation.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Holy shit, where's this happening? Also, kicking out a large group of disgruntled people sounds like a good recipe for cooking up an angry mob. At least one of the ex-tenants has got to be crazy enough to dox the landlord and set fire to his house. Or at least report his rapaciousness to the local news agency. You'd think a business owner might be somewhat concerned over their public reputation, but maybe I think that way because I live in a civilized part of the country where people still care about their reputation.

Dude, this economic slump isn't just affecting individuals. Companies have bills to pay too and they haven't cashed rent checks for months. They gave a grace period to let people adjust, which is nice, but at some point they are going to have to move on.

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

Dude, this economic slump isn't just affecting individuals. Companies have bills to pay too and they haven't cashed rent checks for months. They gave a grace period to let people adjust, which is nice, but at some point they are going to have to move on.

What good is throwing the people out going to do? It's not like there's a bunch of people lined up to move in. And I'm not big on incentivising bad decisions, but isn't helping out a population due to an unforseen natural disaster the kind of thing that government aid was designed for? Where are the shitheads these people voted for and why aren't they trying to legislate relief for their constituents?

 

[Aqua Panda]

Holy shit, where's this happening? Also, kicking out a large group of disgruntled people sounds like a good recipe for cooking up an angry mob. At least one of the ex-tenants has got to be crazy enough to dox the landlord and set fire to his house. Or at least report his rapaciousness to the local news agency. You'd think a business owner might be somewhat concerned over their public reputation, but maybe I think that way because I live in a civilized part of the country where people still care about their reputation.

All I can say without power leveling is somewhere in Virginia. I'm hopeful the story is going to pick up traction in the next few days. I know a few residents have been talking to the local news stations.

I know it's nuts. I keep saying in this thread that there is a threshold out there for these shutdowns. Most of civil society breaks down once people can't reliably feed/cloth themselves and keep a roof over their head. Most of your average joe smocho doesn't have much in savings or an emergency budget.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

What good is throwing the people out going to do? It's not like there's a bunch of people lined up to move in.

Yet. You think these folks are the only ones falling down from this and having to find cheaper digs? There is a major housing realignment that is going to happen. People are going to be losing their homes over this. Foreclosures. It sucks but it's also something that happens.

And I'm not big on incentivising bad decisions, but isn't helping out a population due to an unforseen natural disaster the kind of thing that government aid was designed for? Where are the shitheads these people voted for and why aren't they trying to legislate relief for their constituents?

The government did. Trumpbux. For a myriad of reasons that cannot be a long-term solution (money printer goes brrrrrr). We are in a recession now. It looks to be a long and deep one. Homes will be lost. Businesses ruined. Lives will have to change. Government is powerless to stop it. It's just the way it goes.

 

[moocow]

What's the chance of NGO's picking up food distribution?

lol when have you ever known NGO's to help American citizens? Especially if they're majority white?

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

lol when have you ever known NGO's to help American citizens? Especially if they're majority white?

NGO's are just an arm of ZOG to disenfranchise whites.

If those evicted are minorities or immigrants I'm sure they'll go kvetching to the media to help these people. If they're white then tough luck enjoy being homeless.

 

[Billy_Sama]

Illinois decided to reduce lock downs once Indiana said "Fuck it." They made masks in public mandatory but opened up service businesses in a limited capacity. They also started dismantling the medical center they built inside a convention plaza.

Now it is like "what the fuck were you jackasses screaming about?" I doubt that the governor actually listened to the people but simply realized that half of Chicago would just leave for Indiana.

I know people who live in Northwest Indiana who dread the mass of Illinois refuges coming more inward into Indiana. That part of Indiana going to be swarmed if the Northwest Indiana opens.

 

[Garm]

I know people who live in Northwest Indiana who dread the mass of Illinois refuges coming more inward into Indiana. That part of Indiana going to be swarmed if the Northwest Indiana opens.

Oh yeah. I saw on Facebook a bunch of people saying "Fuck it, we'll go get out hair cut in Indiana."

If you end up traveling to a different state to get shit done the next step would be to move there.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

JB Pritzker is such a fat dumb piece of shit and fuck that goblin looking nígger bitch Lori Lightfoot