2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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What are you talking about? Democrats aren't owed my vote just because I don't like Trump. I got no reason to vote for someone who's policies I dislike just because Orange Man Bad. I'm aligned with the left, not with neo-liberals who favor a return to normalcy over making people's lives better.

A more important question to ask is what are you going to do if the current cultural zeitgeist ends and the next one shifts away from leftism?

I get not voting for a neoliberal like Bloomberg or Biden, and I figured you'd probably vote for the Greens if you vote at all. But nothing lasts forever and your past assertions of culture always moving in a more "progressive" direction is just Whig History bullshit nonsense.

The Boomers were extremely left-leaning on average in their teens, twenties, and early thirties, but then went rightward as they approached middle age, most often going in either a neoliberal direction or joining the ranks of the Religious Right and the neocons.

It's entirely possible that the Millennials and Early Zoomers could have their very own "Yippie to Yuppie" equivalent movement in the late 2020's and 2030's.

The Core Zoomers (the bulk of whom are just now reaching voting age) seem to have more in common with Generation X, being more moderate liberal or centrist overall, and the Late Zoomers and Alpha Generation are at the same age the Millennials were when the Religious Right was at its height, so I would not be surprised if the Alpha Generation kids end up going rightward as a response to the SJW's of their childhoods.

So, if the zeitgeist shifts away from the Woke Left, what will you do? Are you going to "sell out" and leave the left? Will you continue fighting for leftism in vain? Or are you just going to swallow the black pill and join the 41%?
 
The green party is a bunch of woke cucks and dipshits. Ashy seems to me more like a peace and freedom party type. Already posted the party platforms in one of my earlier post. Plus they want to take away muh guns, fuck the green party.
 
A more important question to ask is what are you going to do if the current cultural zeitgeist ends and the next one shifts away from leftism?

I get not voting for a neoliberal like Bloomberg or Biden, and I figured you'd probably vote for the Greens if you vote at all. But nothing lasts forever and your past assertions of culture always moving in a more "progressive" direction is just Whig History bullshit nonsense.

The Boomers were extremely left-leaning on average in their teens, twenties, and early thirties, but then went rightward as they approached middle age, most often going in either a neoliberal direction or joining the ranks of the Religious Right and the neocons.

It's entirely possible that the Millennials and Early Zoomers could have their very own "Yippie to Yuppie" equivalent movement in the late 2020's and 2030's.

The Core Zoomers (the bulk of whom are just now reaching voting age) seem to have more in common with Generation X, being more moderate liberal or centrist overall, and the Late Zoomers and Alpha Generation are at the same age the Millennials were when the Religious Right was at its height, so I would not be surprised if the Alpha Generation kids end up going rightward as a response to the SJW's of their childhoods.

So, if the zeitgeist shifts away from the Woke Left, what will you do? Are you going to "sell out" and leave the left? Will you continue fighting for leftism in vain? Or are you just going to swallow the black pill and join the 41%?

I don't really switch political sides based on what's currently popular, and the "left" that I support isn't some fleeting temporary political shift. The left I support has been shitting on the excesses of capitalism since day one, and has always supported government welfare for the people. Now if this particular era of the Democratic party decides to go right-ward, then I guess I'll follow the economic left wherever it goes next, even if that means voting third party. Best case scenario the young blood in the party can successfully co-opt the DNC in years to come.

To that effect Super Tuesday is a massive indicator of how big the blackpill I'm gonna have to take is gonna be.
 
You guys realize Bloomberg could very easily siphon votes from Biden too, right? He's not at the top of the polls, but he does have appreciable traction. Also, Sanders is doing very, very well in the polls now.
 
They're all just giving up lmao.

It's like in a JRPG where your party members one by one drop out or sacrifice themselves at the final dungeon (or disc 1 final dungeon) before they all come back and you get super powers
FF4?
We're going to the moon bitches!
 
As I've stated before, Trumpism is something that lives and dies with Trump, but Bernie's ideas are more palatable than he is. Its important here to make a distinction between Bernie supporters and Trump supporters. Yes, both are rabid and highly defensive. But whereas many Trump supporters seem to like Trump for how much he shitposts and causes chaos, Bernie supporters like his actual policies more than his "style". Trump supporters like Trump as a person, whereas if I'm being completely honest, Bernie supporters just want him to make their lives better and then fuck off. Even in the worst case scenario, he's pushed once "radical" ideas like singlepayer healthcare into the national conversation.
I'll admit that I'm an outside observer amd could easily be wrong about this, but I've noticed the opposite. Trump seems to be swinging the Republican party into a direction that might be permanent, if they take the right cues. I think a lot of Republican politicians are learning that Trump's policies are what most right-leaming voters want and have wanted for quite a while, and if they want to remain relevant they have to take it. It's something visible in the popularity of Tucker Carlson, or the U-turn Punished Cruz made. I think a lot of them are quite willing to pursue this new course, but we can only really tell once Trump leaves office, considering how dominant he now is in the party. If they're wise, they're taking notes. The surprise breakthrough of Trump showed them what sells a right-wing candidate to the American people, and it is up to them to incorporate that.

One thing to consider is that /pol/ isn't the average voter. The former were the ones that went all in on the millenarian hero-worship of the chaos god, the vast majority of people that actually voted for him didn't know about that horseshit and just supported him because he offered them policies they wanted to hear, and the opposition did not.

Bernie definitely does come across as a figurehead. He obviously isn't immune from hero-worship either, but there's more interesting aspects to it. A lot of his supposed supporters and allies are considerably more radicak than he is, from his own staffers to AOC exaggerating his plans for the border. They quite literally don't seem to agree with his policies, but respect (or want to use) him enough not to attack him on it. It isn't just that they only want the logical next step of his policies, as there's no shortage of Democrats shilling for the same ones now. It's something personal that makes Bernie not only the most preferable, but the only acceptable of the Dem lineup for so many voters.

I don't think the support for Bernie is because of deliberate pragmatism, but because its practical. He's the only likeable candidate for much of the Left because he is their big tent, they can see themselves in him, even if its dubious. It seems like its motivated more by idealism than machiavellianism. It'll be interesting to see what hapoens once Bernie finally exits the stage. I think a lot of the innumerable doctrinal fault lines within the Left that were tempered by his presence are going to start rumbling. I doubt there will be a firmly left-wing successor which have quite the broad appeal that 2016 Bernie did.

What amazes me about the US elections is how almost anyone from any country discusses it when they don't have even a shred of influence on it. Why waste your time when you can't even fucking vote.
I think there are two reasons for that:

1. It's rather useful to know what's hapoening politically in the largest economy and greatest power on the planet. Especially seeing how polarized the most likely candidates are. A radical shift in US policy and stability ripples across the planet, no matter how subtle. It pays to be aware of the size and direction of the wabe before it comes, regardless of where you live.

2. nigger have you even been following this fucking circus, this shit is bananas. 2016 was high level free entertainment and this is already shaping up to be even better

So you're a Zionist unless you completely throw Israel under the bus in favor of Palestine? Okay.
Israel is a nuclear power with one of the best militaries in the world, while the Palis have been walled off in area that's probably smaller than the town you live in, occasionally tossing a firecracker over said wall.

I somehow suspect Zion will survive without constant American nannying.
 
You guys realize Bloomberg could very easily siphon votes from Biden too, right? He's not at the top of the polls, but he does have appreciable traction. Also, Sanders is doing very, very well in the polls now.
Sanders is dropping fast on predictit hard.
 
Israel is a nuclear power with one of the best militaries in the world, while the Palis have been walled off in area that's probably smaller than the town you live in, occasionally tossing a firecracker over said wall.

I somehow suspect Zion will survive without constant American nannying.
I see your point, but is it really a good idea for him to double-down on his Israel criticism when he's already getting heat for it?
 
How can Bloomberg be so bad at speaking ? He's a billionaire, the mayor of one the biggest city in the world and he just... sucks. How can you be so rich and powerful, and so lame at the same time ? I'm right and I can't stand him, can't imagine how leftist want to see him out.
Mike never had to talk to people, he's a data analytics guy, he's your stereotypical nerd that got rich. he never really did any public speaking and the times he was out in front of people, it was doing dumb shit, like appearing in plays or milestone events, where people don't expect much out of you. the mayor here did/does the same stuff. only its not in front of millions of people, he can barely talk either.

QED. Take blacks away from "black culture" and they succeed just like their white counterparts. Go look up the stories of the successful blacks in government: Obama, Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powell, Clarence Thomas, Eric Holder, etc. Some start out poor, but none buy into modern black culture.

Exactly, look at the richest black person in america, he's 4th generation Colorado black, which means immediately after given his freedom, his great-great-grandfather fled the plantation and headed west to work on the railroad and the closet thing he got to "black culture" was watching it on tv in the 70s. the 2nd richest black person is Oprah who got rich by being Jerry Springer for white women and then lastly is Michael Jordan and a shitload of Nigerians, which are basically the jews of black people.

I don't buy it that much. If you look at the US, pre-JFK, they had it rough, it's hard to deny.

shit was rough all over, its not like people in europe who basically had their entire countries destroyed were doing better, or the spics who were working in the fields and were considered too stupid to be taught Spanish were doing well either. It's a bit weird saying we need to keep propping up black people when 20% of them came to the US post-1965, and the latinos and asians also came over and suffered through much worse, for fucks sake. the korean guy that just won the oscar grew up in a dictatorship.


Anyways, people are overthinking this super tuesday. the Dems need a brokered convention, and its a shitload easier to do with only 4 people on the ballot. Remember, its divided proportionally for everyone past 15%, so even if Bernie gets 50%, he's fucked if the other 3 get over 15%, which is basically all but certain now that half the field dropped out, most likely from orders on high.

Look at who's left. and which voters they will get

Biden=Neo-libs&Blacks (basically anyone that wants Obama back)

Bloomberg=Rights/Moderates&Jews (most states in ST are open primary)

Warren=Lefties&Women (She's seen as diet-Bernie, all the policies none of the hate/Douchchills)

With so few choices, the DNC is guaranteed a brokered convention, and ironically the sooner its confirmed, the easier it will be for the media to convince people not to give it to bernie, they'll start cranking out the stories of how evil his supporters are, and probably give Project Veritas the spotlight for once.

On a side note, I can't wait for Null to stream on Bitchute throughout all of Super Tuesday in glorious 120fps 8k; just like the CEO said on the killstream 2 weeks ago
 
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Biden says Buttigieg is a “ramrod” - can’t make this shit up.
 
Tomorrow will answer a lot of questions. We'll all see how effective Bloomberg's plan of buying the nomination is, and we'll also see if the progressives realize what a lying snake Warren is and send her packing by throwing all of their support behind Bernie. Tulsi, sadly, will exit on Wednesday morning.

Bloomberg has the money to stay in until he gets tired of losing, and he's only going to be taking votes away from the 'tard with dementia, Biden. I have more faith in the progressive sticking with Bernie than I do the neolibs sticking with Biden. So in the end, I think Bernie wins big tomorrow.
 
Trump seems to be swinging the Republican party into a direction that might be permanent, if they take the right cues. I think a lot of Republican politicians are learning that Trump's policies are what most right-leaming voters want and have wanted for quite a while, and if they want to remain relevant they have to take it.
I think I speak for very many Republicans when I say the party should be economically nationalist and protectionist, militarily isolationist and culturally libertarian. And that's what Trump is giving us.
 
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It's time for another edition of, "Parody, or Reality?" Make your guess before you peek at the answer!

Edit: Goddamnit they nuked it. It's a parody.
 
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I think I speak for very many Republicans when I say the party should be economically nationalist and protectionist, militarily isolationist and culturally libertarian. And that's what Trump is giving us.

I'm not a republican, and I'm definitely not a democrat, but I fully agree with this. The GOP should be the FUBU party : For Us, By Us.
 
Can't believe they've looped back to Biden, but kind of excited at the possibilities. Can we have a debate every week like the democrats have been doing? Watching Trump embarrass a confused old man once a week in primetime sounds like good ratings. Biden could not handle being called out on his shit to the point he'd snap on random people asking a question or tell them to "vote for someone else." How do the democrats think he'll hold it together with Trump trashing him daily the next 8 months?
 
Can't believe they've looped back to Biden, but kind of excited at the possibilities. Can we have a debate every week like the democrats have been doing? Watching Trump embarrass a confused old man once a week in primetime sounds like good ratings. Biden could not handle being called out on his shit to the point he'd snap on random people asking a question or tell them to "vote for someone else." How do the democrats think he'll hold it together with Trump trashing him daily the next 8 months?

While I think Bernie will probably get the nomination purely from the progressives revolting against the DNC, my lulzy political wet dream is seeing the 'tarded senile old man, coked up on his son's supply (like when he debated Paul Ryan) go against the stand-up insult-comic in chief. My sides will be destroyed, and I'll watch it every month, for a couple years.

We were all right.

The Republicans of then and the Dems of then were pretty much two sides of the same coin.

For the politicians, absolutely. But for the constituency they never properly represented us. Trump, for all of his faults, actually is putting things into action that so many have been waiting for. And I can say the same for Bernie, he represents what the progressives actually want. Hillary and W are part of the same disgusting machine which has infected American politics for far too long.

Republicrat Neolibcons can fuck right off.
 
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