2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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break these cuffs said:
Is nobody on his staff telling him how bad this comes off to voters or are they just happy to be collecting a paycheck?
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I've gotten 4 mailers this week as a Texan, I personally think the DNC is using the bought up operatives in his campaign to bleed him dry so he doesn't want to run as an Independent if he doesn't get the nomination.
 
Polyboros2 said:
I've gotten 4 mailers this week as a Texan, I personally think the DNC is using the bought up operatives in his campaign to bleed him dry so he doesn't want to run as an Independent if he doesn't get the nomination.
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Bloomberg is obviously going for a full court press with his campaign. I posted a month or two ago about being approached by a hippie in my supermarket parking lot shilling to get him on the ballot. At the end of her spiel she disclosed that she was getting $5 a signature. The thing is that he can afford to do it. His estimated networth is $65Bn. He could piss away a billion on a democratic primary run and then another billion on an independent presidential run if he wants. In fact, I hope he does. This is a vanity project for him and he can outspend the entire DNC.
 
break these cuffs said:
Bloomberg is obviously going for a full court press with his campaign. I posted a month or two ago about being approached by a hippie in my supermarket parking lot shilling to get him on the ballot. At the end of her spiel she disclosed that she was getting $5 a signature. The thing is that he can afford to do it. His estimated networth is $65Bn. He could piss away a billion on a democratic primary run and then another billion on an independent presidential run if he wants. In fact, I hope he does. This is a vanity project for him and he can outspend the entire DNC.
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The truly staggering thing about this is if he does indeed spend at those levels, he will have contributed more to the GDP than entire industries and will leave a substantial gap in the market when election season is over.
 
Tonight's debate will be lit AF. Scorched earth baby.

So glad it's gonna be on broadcast TV since I don't have cable. I don't want to miss this train wreck.
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heyitsmike said:
So glad it's gonna be on broadcast TV since I don't have cable. I don't want to miss this train wreck.
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Mentioning OTA television, I don't watch much these days but when I do it's mostly classics on MeTV or AntennaTV. Bloomberg ads are running almost every break. There were no political commercials airing on those back in 2016 that I can recall. Certainly not every break and from the same candidate.
 
YooA said:
It's weird, I have yet to see a single Bloomberg ad on YouTube. I feel like I'm missing out. Is it because I upvote all the Trump ads and downvote everyone else's? Has anyone else NOT seen a Bloomberg ad?
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Live in your ignorance you will feel better.

Kornheiser said:
You guys think the Libertarians will be able top 2016 or is it all downhill from here for them?
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Libertarians are a literal joke of a party. Its now only a bunch of fucking losers who naively think they will actually matter in our two moron system, or people who are only memeing and only want weed legalized. If either D or R made a pro-weed stance, the Lolbertarian party would lose at least 60 of their 80 people nationally supporting them.
 
Just got done watching the tonight‘s debate and, here some things I’ve noticed during the airing. 1) Almost all candidates had one job and that was to slow down Sanders‘ momentum. They could’ve easily dog-piled him all night long but, instead due to their incompetence started fight each other in pointless arguments that really won’t make any impression coming Saturday. Stuff like Bloomberg vs Warren, or Biden vs Steyer, while entertaining in the moment won’t change anyone‘s mind. 2) Pete talked a lot. He knows that he won’t do so hot in South Carolina because the blacks aren’t fans of the gays. Pete kept trying to interrupt and insert himself in the debate but failed miserably each and every time. He was extremely transparent about his motives tonight with all his virtue signaling and pandering bullshit. 3) Joe knows that he needs to win big on Saturday to justify going forward in the primary. He was the most high energy out of all his appearances. 4) Sanders was totally meek last night. He gave inappropriate answers to questions and was fumbling his words. However could that affect his results? IDK.
 
Kornheiser said:
You guys think the Libertarians will be able top 2016 or is it all downhill from here for them?
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Downhill. Their popular policies were co-opted by the conservatives, and their libertine side left them no defense against the woke left. No one has a reason to vote for them right now, even as a principled statement.

If you just want a "fuck you" vote against The System, you even have multiple viable options now; you can choose between Trump or Bernie.

Libertarians aren't a total failure. They had major ideological influence within the GOP, who used their stances to "moderate" mainstream conservative policies without changing their fundamental governing policies. So there's now a "libertarian argument for gay marriage" being parroted by people like Ben Shapiro to appease the new recruits like Dave Rubin; and the NAP is being used as a saving-face reason to back out of the War on Drugs. But they aren't going towards more limited government or dismantling the state itself; they've made negative progress in the last few decades.

In a way, the libertarian journey on the right has mirrored that of the liberals on the left. For a while, the American left was composed of liberals and progressives, each with their own agenda but generally working together against the social, fiscal, and national conservatives groups. Then by the 2010's liberals accomplished most of their agenda (sexual liberalization, gay marriage, federal backstops for social programs) just short of drug legalization, which is slowly underway. Suddenly they had little in common with the progressive agenda, the progressives pushed through radical cultural shifts, and declared "liberals get the bullet too" when their fellow travelers balked at the extremism.

American liberals are becoming isolated in the same way libertarians were, but with less of a cohesive ideology to coalesce a party or movement around. They even tried joining up for a brief moment, before that "liberaltarian" idea collapsed under the obvious contradictions.

(For all the lolcow behavior Sargon does, he properly recognized that liberals needed an explicit ideology to describe how they're different from modern leftists. "Liberalists" was a dumb name, but it's a necessary intellectual first step if you want to turn your collection of policy preferences into an identifiable movement.)
 
I'm anticipating Pete's destruction in South Carolina (thank you black women I owe you drinks) but I'm wondering if there is something else that will play a part in his downfall.

If it is down to Biden, Warren, and Sanders then fine. Idgaf.

But I heard Bloomberg paid people to sit in the audience and boo at this event
 
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