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I was thinking how I had some sympathy toward the other trisomy types because they can present as if they were downs, but most individuals with down syndrome have moderate intellectual disability and die from early onset alzheimers so... no sympathy. Stop birthing kids with preventable disorders.

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Thrilled to be born with preventable genetic disorders I'm sure.

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Poor fucking kid. Trisomy 13 is barely survivable in the first place.

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This shit pisses me off. Being a mother is an action, not just a fact of obtaining a fetus. Otherwise shitty ass abusive 'mothers' would garner the title. So no, you arent a 'mother' of 6 when 3 never lived to be raised. They were fetuses. Grow up.

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Purposeful?! Are you fucking kidding me? 91% don't fucking live past 1 year old. You birthed a likely death sentence you asshole.

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Oh come on... who posts that and expects people not to laugh?
 
I did a project on trisomies for biology class in high school. Obviously it wasn’t too in depth, but my research did present me with some extremely bleak situations. I’m glad finding photos on the internet wasn’t as easy back then as it is today, trisomy 13 and 18 sounded bad enough on paper to a high school student without the visual aid.
 
GenociderSyo said:
Interesting site for you guys talking about trisomies, it has guides on how mutations of every gene (trisomy, translocation, deleton, etc.) will affect the child:

Unique | Disorder Guides

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I didn't want to sperg out in the post about them. Pretty sure that 18, 13, and 21 can exist as non-mosaics (every cell has a triplet), but the kids who tend to survive longest as the first two are probably mosaics (cells may or may not have mosaics).

That site includes partial duplications as dups instead of full duplication of the chromosome.

Then, every other trisomy I'm fairly sure is deadly unless mosaic'd. I dunno why I didnt think to dig through the other kinds on insta. I feel only for parents who genuinely couldnt see it coming on an ultrasound.

What interests me in particular about rare genetic conditions is how many of them likely cause cases of autism. I met a pair of siblings that definitely had some genetic disorder, but just got slapped with an autism diagnosis and it was left at that. They had such specific facial features looking nothing like the parents but exactly like each other. Two other siblings had fragile X.
 
A Detachable Penis said:
What interests me in particular about rare genetic conditions is how many of them likely cause cases of autism. I met a pair of siblings that definitely had some genetic disorder, but just got slapped with an autism diagnosis and it was left at that. They had such specific facial features looking nothing like the parents but exactly like each other. Two other siblings had fragile X.
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It's probably due to how broad the diagnostic criteria for autism has become and how many ammenities it provides. You get a shit ton of services now for an autism diagnosis, but genetic disorders, especially rare or orphan ones, get nothing.
 
A Detachable Penis said:
Yup, still interests me though. Also, this didnt make it onto the last post:

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(Dr Zoidberg?!?!)
But yeah, just with... whatever exactly is happening with that, it’s hard to see any way for a kid like that to survive, let alone thrive. It must be very sad to deal with for the family, but I can’t think of any mentally healthy reason to share the pic on insta.

Also, lol, bets on when Non-expert comes back and shits up the thread with reading non-comprehension.
 
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Yup, still interests me though. Also, this didnt make it onto the last post:

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She also calls all of it's deformities "cute", the cleft lip in particular being "super cute" (though no shout-out to the equally fucked-up nose accompanying it). Which is totally why a ton of legit otherwise normal babies and children in third world countries and China are immediately abandoned when their parents can't afford the surgery to fix it (if they're even aware of it).

Sorry, but it just really rubs me the wrong way. Deformities are many things, but "cute" is not fucking one of them.
 
A Detachable Penis said:
I met a pair of siblings that definitely had some genetic disorder, but just got slapped with an autism diagnosis and it was left at that. They had such specific facial features looking nothing like the parents but exactly like each other. Two other siblings had fragile X.
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Sounds like the parents’ gene pool was pretty shallow.

Speaking of dysmorphic facial features, I do find it fascinating how certain genetic defects and syndromes have such weirdly specific facial “tells”. Like this child with Cornelia de Lange Syndrome, who has the weirdest eyebrows I’ve ever seen.
 

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A Detachable Penis said:
Yup, still interests me though. Also, this didnt make it onto the last post:

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I know it would upset the moms, but I can't help thinking of a baby that is this deformed as "it," rather than he or she. It's like it didn't quite make the leap into full humanity. Same thing with babies who have alobar holoprosencephaly, anencephaly, etc. The brain is what makes us human.

Can you imagine giving birth to this in the 14th century? It must have been terrifying. Even more terrifying would be the thought that you had displeased God in some way and this was a result. Someday maybe I'll do some research and find out when severely deformed babies started to be viewed as blessings rather than curses.
 
C@astrophica said:
I know it would upset the moms, but I can't help thinking of a baby that is this deformed as "it," rather than he or she. It's like it didn't quite make the leap into full humanity.
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I suppose that's how we were programmed by nature. Animals tend to abandon weak or defective offspring because they have limited resources and would rather focus on those babies that have the biggest chance of survival, rather than seeing them all die of starvation. Unlike animals we have access to supermarkets however, so we can afford to keep our little miracles around to farm all those sweet sweet asspats on Facebook. If you think about it, it's pretty ironic how some first world babies that "make it" can't do anything but poop and have seizures for their entire existence, and yet there are thousands of perfectly aware children starving to death on the other side of the globe.

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Someday maybe I'll do some research and find out when severely deformed babies started to be viewed as blessings rather than curses.
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Probably has a lot to do with the advancements of science. Back when we didn't know about genetics (and science in general), the only explanation we really had for things were god. It's raining after a long period of drought, that must mean god has heard our prayers. My daughter only has one eye and half a nose. That means I must not have prayed hard enough. Now that we know that shit sometimes just happens during the creation of life, and that it can happen to anybody, we can rest easy knowing that it is in fact not our fault. But then why would god do something like that to us? Something something god works in mysterious ways and wants to test our faith, insert Bible quote about Job here, so now my suffering deformed child is no longer a tragedy, but god's tsundere way of showing his love. After all, it means you're important enough to warrant your very own test of faith! We know how fundies tend to be, they mostly reject science unless it's convenient. Such as how god and the hospital machines are the only masters of life and death.
 
C@astrophica said:
I know it would upset the moms, but I can't help thinking of a baby that is this deformed as "it," rather than he or she. It's like it didn't quite make the leap into full humanity. Same thing with babies who have alobar holoprosencephaly, anencephaly, etc. The brain is what makes us human.

Can you imagine giving birth to this in the 14th century? It must have been terrifying. Even more terrifying would be the thought that you had displeased God in some way and this was a result. Someday maybe I'll do some research and find out when severely deformed babies started to be viewed as blessings rather than curses.
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I can tell you it occurred because of the pro-life movement and started in the 1990s but the last fifteen years (thanks to SM) put it in overdrive. The pro-life movement has taken the extreme “all abortions are wrong/bad” and that caused problems with the advancement of pre-natal testing being able to predict potato babies. Pro-lifers could not admit abortions for even for potatoes were acceptable.

The solution was rebranding! Potato babies were now gifts/miracles instead of curses or punishment.
 
C@astrophica said:
I know it would upset the moms, but I can't help thinking of a baby that is this deformed as "it," rather than he or she. It's like it didn't quite make the leap into full humanity. Same thing with babies who have alobar holoprosencephaly, anencephaly, etc. The brain is what makes us human.
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I disagree, it’s only a cleft lip (albeit a severe one) so it’s a bit of a leap to say a person with a fairly minor facial defect isn’t fully human. Cleft lips can be repaired and the kids go on to live normal lives.

The baby in that photo is a red herring because the cleft lip was a marker of Trisomy 13 which is lethal. Well, most people consider it lethal. Fundie opinions don’t count.
 
MiniMuffin said:
She isn’t stable enough to go to a long term care facility. Here’s a quote a hospital doctor told Buzzfeed News: “Even with medication and support, Tinslee has 'dying events' 2–3 times per day. When she is in distress, Tinslee crashes and aggressive medical intervention is immediately necessary, which causes even more pain.”

Long-term care facilities don’t look after patients until they’re medically stable, and she isn’t.
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Add to that that between her lung issues & super high blood pressure she can't have any surgery there isn't any way to stablize her anymore than she is. Plus overr 20 hosiptals around the US have refused to take her.
 
Creep It Real said:
Add to that that between her lung issues & super high blood pressure she can't have any surgery there isn't any way to stablize her anymore than she is. Plus overr 20 hosiptals around the US have refused to take her.
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it's very hard on the staff, to torture someone medically this way. reviving a patient is brutal. bones break, lungs are shredded, the heart is bruised. it's a lot of pain, resuscitation is not a pleasant experience and if those injuries can't heal between episodes it's constant pain.

doctors soon begin to feel they're being forced to torture someone. doctors tend to have a high aversion to causing that kind of harm. I'll be surprised if any facility takes her.
 
cuddle striker said:
it's very hard on the staff, to torture someone medically this way. reviving a patient is brutal. bones break, lungs are shredded, the heart is bruised. it's a lot of pain, resuscitation is not a pleasant experience and if those injuries can't heal between episodes it's constant pain.

doctors soon begin to feel they're being forced to torture someone. doctors tend to have a high aversion to causing that kind of harm. I'll be surprised if any facility takes her.
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Earlier in this thread I mentioned a friend who was a nurse in Bobby Reyes’s hospital (Bobby being a brain dead corpse-child whose mother was fighting to keep him on life support). My friend wasn’t involved in Bobby’s care but told me about some hopeless cases that were frequent fliers at the hospital, whom he HAD had the misfortune of trying to treat.

He mentioned a young man in his twenties with end stage ALS, and an elderly man with severe brain damage from a TBI. Neither patient was capable of speaking for himself and in both cases the families wanted extreme measures taken to keep them alive. Both regularly arrived at the hospital in a dying condition and had to be violently worked on till they were stabilized. He said it was incredibly draining on the staff, physically and mentally, to treat people like this, and they all looked forward to when those two men’s suffering would end.

I do not understand the point of continuing extreme measures in cases like this, particularly the old man. It seems very cruel.
 
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