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Sounds like these guys might deserve their own thread. They're fascinating.

Unsurprisingly, Lavery is one of those troons who says he doesn't believe in biological sex.
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"YES sex is intrinsic
NO you can't see it
NO you can't feel it
NO you can't determine it of your own body in any way"

Sorry I got it all mixed up. Aren't TROONS, rather than "chromosome ideologues", the ones who believe these?
 
Any interest in this guy? I started following him the day he got his cock cut off to get live updates on his decline from enthusiasm to eventual suicide. :popcorn:


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Here's some hilarious cope.
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God, I know your pain, sister.
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Just imagine a regular woman trying to justify to her boss that she dresses and poses with her tits out so women will feel MORE empowered to show off their tits at work. If they weren't outright fired, they'd never be taken seriously.

he’s the first 10 seconds of this clip personified, which presumably has already been posted here so oopsies ⏰

As we can see, all of the actual women dress professionally with properly posed photographs because they take themselves seriously and/or have imposter syndrome despite being qualified for their positions. The narc troon clearly just wants to be a hot bimbo and is upset none of the other professional females want to also be hot bimbos.

There are three key ways for everybody in the room to assume that a professional woman is actually a fucking idiot - either she is really fat, really sloppy, or she dresses like a hooker. It’s a good assumption tbh, and women can tell whether people read them as stupid and if they value their career they diet and update accordingly. The troon is probably just getting special woke asspats or being avoided, so there is nothing to clue him in to actual female social behavior. He’ll never stop being a sloppy hooker, and he’ll probably get fat hoping it’ll turn into breasts rather than bitch tits.

sometimes I wonder if troons lurk here to get passing clues because where else are they going to get honest feedback?
 
If someone I was dating referred to me as their 'sex partner' in anything other than private conversation between ourselves as a joke they'd be out the fucking door. A partner is not just a sexual object, they're someone you build your life with, your support, most importantly they are a person.

This troon doesn't care about anyone but themselves. Even in the post about the rehearsal with the chain, why???, they don't make the point that it was the woman who told them to take the pic with the chain, the woman's instagram post gives the context. Like honey, if his ass won't even casually mention you there I can't imagine how pushed aside you are in every other aspect of your life.

This poor woman has been manipulated into destroying herself and her relationship with her family for someone who only thinks of them as a body, a sexual commodity, not a person and who only looks at others around them through the lens of how they might get twitter/instagram likes and victim points. This isn't a healthy relationship, it's strait up abuse.
Sex partner makes it sound like she's a one night stand and he's thinking of getting more sex partners. The polyamory saga is coming, mark my words.
 
Any interest in this guy? I started following him the day he got his cock cut off to get live updates on his decline from enthusiasm to eventual suicide. :popcorn:


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Do you even need to ask? Yes, I love reading this delusional shit. It almost makes me feel bad for him, holy shit. In terms of passing he looks... decent. He isn’t immediately clockable. But no amount of hormones and surgery is going to fix that absolutely delusional mind of his! He’s pulling all these facts straight out of his ass, the “gynecologists can never tell the difference!” myth is so overused. If only we could refer troons back to the thread where on r/NeovaginaDisasters an actual gynecologist came on the sub to vent about how fucking horrible it was to treat patients with neovaginas, but that sub is nuked. Maybe someone has an archive?

Not to mention it’s another lesbo troon. Ugh... dude, you didn’t need to lop off your dick and put on a wig to attract women. Lesbians don’t want you, lesbians are attracted to cis women. Get that through your fucking head. The only woman you’re gonna get is another troon.

sometimes I wonder if troons lurk here to get passing clues because where else are they going to get honest feedback?
I can almost guarantee that’s a 100% no. Troons are too sensitive. They don’t want criticism, they don’t want to improve themselves, they want online hugboxes where they never have to have another self-reflective thought again. And even for the braver troons, this thread is full of too much hate, they prob couldn’t read through it long enough to see the constructive criticism.
 
They're lucky most don't live to grow old because dementia would hit them even harder. Can you imagine having a rare moment of lucidity and panicking about your stinkditch just to have some overworked nurse say that you chose to cut off your dick to become a woman? That's some horror flick shit, you were the troon haunting your nightmares.
 
Is this really a thing among troons?

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I seem to have screwed up the video. What's the trick? Weird. Only plays 3 or 4 seconds here. Open a new tab and it works fine. Must be on my end.
 
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They're lucky most don't live to grow old because dementia would hit them even harder. Can you imagine having a rare moment of lucidity and panicking about your stinkditch just to have some overworked nurse say that you chose to cut off your dick to become a woman? That's some horror flick shit, you were the troon haunting your nightmares.

the BBC interviewed a troon about just that topic! Lots of guidelines are being written by Alzheimer’s association, etc. but we’re in uncharted water, can’t wait to see the shit show tbh. Feel bad for the nurses tho.


I can almost guarantee that’s a 100% no. Troons are too sensitive. They don’t want criticism, they don’t want to improve themselves, they want online hugboxes where they never have to have another self-reflective thought again. And even for the braver troons, this thread is full of too much hate, they prob couldn’t read through it long enough to see the constructive criticism.
Their loss. Look at my adorable avatar. I am too cute to be mean. I’m helping. Related, Blair white reads his thread and took out his hideous extensions 🤷‍♀️ coincidence? I kind of figured gay trannies would lurk in here feeling smugly superior to all the truck stop horrors we dredge from the depths tbh.
 
I mean in theory no one has to die to remove a uterus. It's a unique organ in that respect.
True, you can live without one, but the uterus is still an important organ and removing it can have weird effects like damaging working memory.
 
Those are much different circumstances then to the whole world available to be read on Instagram. Sure that'd be acceptable- if the rest of their relationship didn't reek of the kind of control you see in abuse cases. Meeting, her trooning out alongside him, distancing her from friends and family, their instagram is almost exclusively photos of themselves vs. with friends, their reliance on one another and their ideology.

Most troons want to bury their past. She ever so often posts a picture of herself when she was still female. All her clothing as a man is baggy and overly large, ratty, or tacky just look at the wedding photo and the choice of 'tux'. As she progressed on testosterone her smiles became more and more fake, forced, quirky troon smirk, etc. She stopped being a girl who was dressing like a tomboy and posted frequent selfies to being a troon whose just slowly becoming more of a disaster.

Nothing about them makes them come across as 'this is us just being quirky!' and nothing about him makes me think he'd even ask if she was ok with it.
Mallory "Daniel" Ortberg's father, John Ortberg, is a prominent Evangelical pastor and her sister Laura is also very religious. I think growing up as a lesbian in that environment must have led to some intense self-loathing. I can't figure out how she got tangled up in a relationship with Lavery: was she just extremely psychologically vulnerable, or was she heterosexual all along?

A couple months ago, she wrote a blog post with a bunch of links to her old writings. She links to a piece from July 2017, not long after she met Lavery, in which she refers to Lavery as "my friend Jos." In her 2019 blog post about it, she comments, "An early Grace mention in the introduction! Notable for two reasons: 1. I was already trying to get her attention by claiming not to understand poetry (“Gee whiz, Grace, I’m just too handsome and dumb to know what Imagery is – I guess I need SOMEONE smart to make me understand it”) and 2. I was still running that pre-transition “I don’t know what sex is” program 24/7."

So, the way Lavery tells the story of their meeting, he liked Ortberg's online presence and invented pretexts to contact her and get close to her. But in her mind, she needed to intentionally play dumb to get Lavery to like her? Her mentality is just so bizarre.

Also notable is the breakneck timeline:
  • July 2017: Lavery is just "my friend Jos."
  • August 2018: Ortberg chopped off her tits.
  • October 2019: Ortberg publicly cut contact with her entire family and legally changed her surname to "Lavery."
 
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the BBC interviewed a troon about just that topic! Lots of guidelines are being written by Alzheimer’s association, etc. but we’re in uncharted water, can’t wait to see the shit show tbh. Feel bad for the nurses tho.
"They also include advice on how to help a transgender person with dementia to maintain their preferred appearance when they can no longer do it themselves."

Does this mean nurses will have to learn how to tuck dicks into miniskirts? :(

Anyway, I wonder what the guidelines are for people who remember jack shit about transitioning. If someone with severe memory loss gets mad because everyone is calling him a lady, do they switch back to male pronouns, or do they keep calling him a woman to respect the choices made pre-dementia? It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
 
Any interest in this guy? I started following him the day he got his cock cut off to get live updates on his decline from enthusiasm to eventual suicide. :popcorn:


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Why do these people insist on coping so fuckin hard? It's like you can tell they just fucking know they've made a giant mistake and gotta play it off.
 
"They also include advice on how to help a transgender person with dementia to maintain their preferred appearance when they can no longer do it themselves."

Does this mean nurses will have to learn how to tuck dicks into miniskirts? :(

Anyway, I wonder what the guidelines are for people who remember jack shit about transitioning. If someone with severe memory loss gets mad because everyone is calling him a lady, do they switch back to male pronouns, or do they keep calling him a woman to respect the choices made pre-dementia? It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

imagine secretly cross dressing most of your life, trooning out when you stop giving a shit at 60, dementia at 80. Every day when you piss you look down for your dick and it’s gone. Imagine how fucking traumatic that would be:(
 
Troons want women dead so they can harvest their wombs. The fact that it is impossible to give women transplanted wombs, much less a cock in a frock, displays how mentally unhinged they are.

"They also include advice on how to help a transgender person with dementia to maintain their preferred appearance when they can no longer do it themselves."

Does this mean nurses will have to learn how to tuck dicks into miniskirts? :(

Anyway, I wonder what the guidelines are for people who remember jack shit about transitioning. If someone with severe memory loss gets mad because everyone is calling him a lady, do they switch back to male pronouns, or do they keep calling him a woman to respect the choices made pre-dementia? It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

Well, it will be the ultimate test. No one suffering from dementia forgets if they are male or female. Their name, children, what year it is etc. Those are the things they forget, but never their gender. So if an elderly troon starts referring to himself with masculine pronouns then his claims over the years that he was a girl was a charade all along.
 
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