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“How to stop a civil war” says the cover of the latest Atlantic magazine. I can suggest a fix: the international community should intervene in the US. Of course Americans have a right to self-determination but the priority now is saving democracy.
It’s hard to assess the risk of political violence, given the US tradition of everyday gunslinging: the rival candidates for state elections in Montana, who each made adsshowing themselves firing rifles at television screens, looked like actors playing Afghan warlords. Still, the recent ethnopolitical terror attacks in El Paso, Pittsburgh and elsewhere were shocking even by US standards.
The much tamer UK needs watching too. Like Americans, Britons have been upgrading their political views into their identities and dismissing opponents as traitors. Both countries now intend to resolve their conflict with winner-take-all elections.
Such scenarios rarely end well, warns former Yemeni government minister Rafat Al-Akhali, a fellow at Oxford’s Blavatnik School of Government. He says: “A lot of people in the regions that we work with thought we had to transfer their experiences of national dialogue to the UK and other countries.” So what should interventions in the US and potentially Britain look like?
Washington used to advocate a set schedule for countries in conflict. A binary election only worsens polarisation. Instead, says Al-Akhali, the first step is power sharing: a transitional government that includes all conflicting sides.
Next comes an Afghan-style loya jirga, or grand assembly, to kick off a national dialogue. Yemen’s brought together political parties, but also youth, women, civil society, southern secessionists and northern Houthi rebels. A US dialogue could look remarkably similar.
Given the death of truth, a South African-style Truth and Reconciliation Commission wouldn’t work in the US. Americans may also need to abandon the polarising impeachment of Donald Trump and let him seek exile in a friendly country: the model could be Ukraine’s kleptocratic pro-Kremlin former president Viktor Yanukovich, now based out of Russia.
The loya jirga writes a new constitution. This would be Britain’s first, and for the US, a much-needed update of its antiquated 1787 document. Japanese jurists could help draft it as a thank you to Americans for writing Japan’s excellent 1947 constitution.
The new text would dispense with vagaries such as “high crimes and misdemeanours”, define presidential corruption and end political control of the judiciary. If it’s undemocratic for the Polish or Hungarian governments to appoint judges, why can the US president do it?
The new constitution must cantonise the US, going way beyond “states’ rights” to neighbourhood rights. The smaller the units of power, the less important becomes the national political conflict. The US’s second republic will also need a new electoral system that favours coalitions instead of winner-takes-all rule.
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The new constitution must also tackle foreign election-meddling. Ideally, a non-partisan institution would be put in charge of handling this, but the only one now somewhat trusted across the American divide is the military, and you generally don’t want soldiers in post-conflict transitions.
After Russia’s successes in the US and UK in 2016, half the world will be interfering in the next elections. Indeed, a British support group for India’s ruling Hindu nationalist BJP party boasts of campaigning for the Tories in 48 marginal seats. British Conservatives and US Republicans may welcome the help, but they should realise there’s at least a theoretical possibility that foreign powers might one day shift to their opponents.
In fact, if Russia feels any need to hasten Britain’s break-up and international isolation, it can already choose between Boris Johnson, Jeremy Corbyn, the Brexit party, the Scottish Nationalists, Sinn Féin and Plaid Cymru, while encouraging infighting between Remain parties.
Once the new constitution is signed, it’s time for closely scrutinised elections. Even before the US elections of 2000, the journalist Christopher Hitchens wrote: “The United States loves nothing better than to certify other countries’ ballots as ‘free and fair’, so there can hardly be any principled objection to a delegation of monitors from democratic nations taking up position, pens in hand, as America makes its ‘choice.’”
If only he’d been listened to. The problem is worse today: given gerrymandering and voter suppression, states such as North Carolina and Georgia are no longer full democracies. Tories are learning from Republicans: they’re now planning to make voters show identification, precisely because many poorer Britons don’t have any.
Whoever becomes leader must reach out. Andrew Yang, a no-hope Democratic candidate, has it right: “After I win the . . . election, my plan is to go to the district that voted for me the least in the entire country and say, ‘I know you didn’t support me, but I will be your president too.’”
But let’s not get over-optimistic. At best, intervention will freeze the US’s overlapping ethnic, economic and regional conflicts. The question for the international community then becomes: how much blood and treasure is it willing to expend on a country that may not be ready for democracy?

 
I'm pretty sure this is just satire turning the whole US foreign intervention thing on its head. Ironically foreign intervention is actually incredibly unpopular with the people of this country and foreign influence of a particular bent drives it.

Really? This person is relying partly on the advice of a Yemeni professor whose country is experiencing foreign intervention that is simply prolonging/exacerbating conflict within the country? The lack of self-awareness...sheesh. The only thing I can support in that article is the need for de-centralization (which I highly doubt the writer actually supports) and the need for a new constitution (because clearly things need to be spelled out ad nauseum instead of assumed).
Yeah we need a constitutional convention. That's the easiest way to solve all the problems we have today.

That entire article is baffling. It's every anti-Semitic trope admitted and publicly displayed. "Yeah, we orchestrated most treasonous social movements, what are you gonna do about it?"
Try reading stuff from the forward or haaretz. Jews say some wild stuff when they think they're talking to Jews.
 
Hypothetically, lets say he's being legit (he's not).

First, the 'International Community' would never get behind this. Embargoing the US, one of the top dogs of the global economy, is insane. They lack any sort of political pressure that they could put on them and any president that capitulated would be facing a lynching at the next election. All they'd be left with is an actual military invasion, and nobody is dumb enough to try and invade a continent as big and well armed as the US. Not when Bubba and his cousin-wives are itching to pop some foreigners with granpappy's tank that he shipped home from Korea in the mail Radar style.

Second, I can name at least 2 countries that would do whatever they could to help the US. Japan and Australia. Not just stay neutral, not just send some money. Whatever we could. We're fucking treaty bound by ANZUS to put boots on the ground in the US if a foreign coalition tried to invade them (just as the US would be treaty bound to put boots on the ground here if we got invaded). Prior to the 80s you would also have New Zealand showing up for the party but they cucked out like the faggots they are.

Third, nukes.

But hey do it. It would make me sign up. Go see the Statue of Liberty, kill some African rape troops.Get some Chicago style pizza. Sounds like a fun way to spend a few months.
 
Hypothetically, lets say he's being legit (he's not).

First, the 'International Community' would never get behind this. Embargoing the US, one of the top dogs of the global economy, is insane. They lack any sort of political pressure that they could put on them and any president that capitulated would be facing a lynching at the next election. All they'd be left with is an actual military invasion, and nobody is dumb enough to try and invade a continent as big and well armed as the US. Not when Bubba and his cousin-wives are itching to pop some foreigners with granpappy's tank that he shipped home from Korea in the mail Radar style.

Second, I can name at least 2 countries that would do whatever they could to help the US. Japan and Australia. Not just stay neutral, not just send some money. Whatever we could. We're fucking treaty bound by ANZUS to put boots on the ground in the US if a foreign coalition tried to invade them (just as the US would be treaty bound to put boots on the ground here if we got invaded). Prior to the 80s you would also have New Zealand showing up for the party but they cucked out like the faggots they are.

Third, nukes.

But hey do it. It would make me sign up. Go see the Statue of Liberty, kill some African rape troops.Get some Chicago style pizza. Sounds like a fun way to spend a few months.

Fourth the US invades Canada and Mexico, seizes control of around 70% of the world's freshwater supply, the majority of it's rare minerals and the largest proven hydrocarbon reserves. Declares the formation of the North American Union and tells the rest of earth to fuck off as it focuses on colonizing the Moon and Mars.

While that is hyperbole (much like the clickbait that passes for an Atlantic article now), a part of me kinda wishes we do it.
 
I thought it meant they were gonna send all the Slavs here. Would of helped.
 
It's gotta be satire.

Everyone knows that the UN troops would just try to set up drug rings and child prostitution rings and they'd have to fight the locals for that and the locals have more guns and more ammo.

Plus, could you imagine a "multinational force" invading America instead of buying weapons and ammo from it? Holy shit, that would be funnier than hell.

"Um, Franques, do you have ammo?"
"No, Hans, ask Abdula."
"ALOHA SNACKBAR!"
 
It's gotta be satire.

Everyone knows that the UN troops would just try to set up drug rings and child prostitution rings and they'd have to fight the locals for that and the locals have more guns and more ammo.

Plus, could you imagine a "multinational force" invading America instead of buying weapons and ammo from it? Holy shit, that would be funnier than hell.

"Um, Franques, do you have ammo?"
"No, Hans, ask Abdula."
"ALOHA SNACKBAR!"
Don't underestimate the UN's destructive power. They could do like in Post-Earthquake Haiti where the UN's Nepalese peacekeeping contingent brought the entire island nation to its knees by defecating in the major river, thereby infecting the entire nation's water supply with Nepalese cholera and causing a deadly epidemic.

Now imagine if the UN occupation forces stationed Indian, Bangladeshi, or Pakistani peacekeepers near America's waterways and reservoirs! The destructive power would be magnified tenfold!
 
Don't underestimate the UN's destructive power. They could do like in Post-Earthquake Haiti where the UN's Nepalese peacekeeping contingent brought the entire island nation to its knees by defecating in the major river, thereby infecting the entire nation's water supply with Nepalese cholera and causing a deadly epidemic.

Now imagine if the UN occupation forces stationed Indian, Bangladeshi, or Pakistani peacekeepers near America's waterways and reservoirs! The destructive power would be magnified tenfold!
Holy shit, they already invaded San Francisco!
 
Don't underestimate the UN's destructive power. They could do like in Post-Earthquake Haiti where the UN's Nepalese peacekeeping contingent brought the entire island nation to its knees by defecating in the major river, thereby infecting the entire nation's water supply with Nepalese cholera and causing a deadly epidemic.

Now imagine if the UN occupation forces stationed Indian, Bangladeshi, or Pakistani peacekeepers near America's waterways and reservoirs! The destructive power would be magnified tenfold!
Dont forget all the child rape and pedophilia [and trading child sex slaves]
 
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