Comicsgate Hangers-On and Drama Whores - A thread about some guy who's mad about Star Wars and the neckbeards obsessively stalking him

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1:20:28 into Nick's Livestream... HUGE shots at EVS. 😂
"If I were as late with my campaign as some of these people in the last year in Indie comics... I couldn't show my face."


The only shots Nick was taking were of that whiskey. Those comments were in jest.
 
I think the more fascinating thing is that Ya Boi Zach, with no comic pro experience, no publisher experience, and while fighting a lawsuit against Mark Waid, managed to get out two books and a remastered campaign to completion and customer satisfaction while EVS hasn't even been able to do one. The novice out performs the industry veteran.

My one was twice the size of his, in terms of number of pages and number of customers to serve, with a wider variety of product...and I'm writing AND drawing the whole thing.

But yes, fascinating.

I think EVS has come right out and admitted to prefer making youtube vids over doing comics in a few of his livestreams.

Absolutely. Drawing comics is a lonely grind for subsistence level wages. No wonder most comic pros are fucking weirdos.

YouTube is social, it can be just as creative, it's spontaneous, pays well, and lets me spend the day with my family.

But I go back and forth. I've never been happier in comics than when I'm writing and drawing CYBERFROG. It's a much better experience than working for Marvel or DC.
 
The only shots Nick was taking were of that whiskey. Those comments were in jest.

No they weren't.
My one was twice the size of his, in terms of number of pages and number of customers to serve, with a wider variety of product...and I'm writing AND drawing the whole thing.

But yes, fascinating.



Absolutely. Drawing comics is a lonely grind for subsistence level wages. No wonder most comic pros are fucking weirdos.

YouTube is social, it can be just as creative, it's spontaneous, pays well, and lets me spend the day with my family.

But I go back and forth. I've never been happier in comics than when I'm writing and drawing CYBERFROG. It's a much better experience than working for Marvel or DC.

Ya Boi actually delivered all of his books and completed his campaigns while fighting Mark Waid, so no... you don't get a participation award. Stop taking everything as a personal attack and address the criticism, requests for refunds and the requests for information from your backers. Please, take 20 minutes and go through your IGG campaigns.
 
No they weren't.


Ya Boi actually delivered all of his books and completed his campaigns while fighting Mark Waid, so no... you don't get a participation award. Stop taking everything as a personal attack and address the criticism, requests for refunds and the requests for information from your backers. Please, take 20 minutes and go through your IGG campaigns.

Sir? That doesn't have anything to do with what I said, and I don't need a participation award.

BIGGEST CROWDFUNDED COMIC OF ALL TIME.

Refunds have been closed since September. Fulfillment continues!
 
Sir? That doesn't have anything to do with what I said, and I don't need a participation award.

BIGGEST CROWDFUNDED COMIC OF ALL TIME.

Refunds have been closed since September. Fulfillment continues!

Dude, you're still 300k behind Order of the Stick and they did that with a single campaign.

And a single cover? I know multiple covers on Crowd campaigns isn't the same as the predatory practices inflicted upon retailers. BUTT, you're still m i l k i n g more money from the same people responsible for your success. If you are grateful to your customers, reward them with a valuable new product instead of offering them the same thing with a reskin.
 
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BIGGEST CROWDFUNDED COMIC OF ALL TIME.
Dude, you're still 300k behind Order of the Stick and they did that with a single campaign.
Not only that, but didn't he get cucked out of that title not even a year later by that fundie Doug that he tries to bait into slapfights along with his tard trolls every now and again out of a desperation to keep from finding a real job or committing to his art like yaboi does? Could've sworn Earthworm Jim's book did a Babe Ruth and called the shot.

Unless the logic is like Pigroach's evo "win" and he's just counting floppies.
Refunds have been closed since September. Fulfillment continues!
So the ash cans are going out now?
 
Not only that, but didn't he get cucked out of that title not even a year later by that fundie Doug that he tries to bait into slapfights along with his tard trolls every now and again out of a desperation to keep from finding a real job or committing to his art like yaboi does? Could've sworn Earthworm Jim's book did a Babe Ruth and called the shot.

Unless the logic is like Pigroach's evo "win" and he's just counting floppies.

So the ash cans are going out now?

I think his logic is if you add together all the variant cover campaigns and treat them as a single entity, then it equals = biggest crowdfunded comic.

*While also ignoring Order of the Stick

just counting floppies.

Conspiracy Autism sense tingling - Is this why the Teamup cover wasn't prestige format with a spine? To satisfy his ego of most-funded floppy?
 
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I think his logic is if you add together all the variant cover campaigns and treat them as a single entity, then it equals = biggest crowdfunded comic.

*While also ignoring Order of the Stick
ThEy WeRe A wEbCoMiC is my guess on that one chief.

And that multi-variant comic shit is one of the reasons the industry died too lol.
 
Dude, you're still 300k behind Order of the Stick and they did that with a single campaign.

And a single cover? I know multiple covers on Crowd campaigns isn't the same as the predatory practices inflicted upon retailers. BUTT, you're still m i l k i n g more money from the same people responsible for your success. If you are grateful to your customers, reward them with a valuable new product instead of offering them the same thing with a reskin.

I'm grateful to ALL my customers, including the 60,000 new subscribers on my channel that weren't aware of the first campaign. So I reopened it with a new variant for a limited time. 7 days.

Then, 4 months later, I opened a new campaign with a new cover. Same book.

That's not what's killing comics. Unasked for, unwanted variants foisted on retailers is the problem. My books went straight to their final destination, customers.

And there are still people who missed out, and we'll make sure they're able to hop on board too!
 
No they weren't.

Rekieta clarifying himself:
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wow, I thought Comicsgate was over with that sperg sperging about EVS because he wasn't able to flip comic books. And I was wrong.

Comicsgate is now gayer than Gamergate, and I would like to christen EVS as the Sargon of comicsgate
 
wow, I thought Comicsgate was over with that sperg sperging about EVS because he wasn't able to flip comic books. And I was wrong.

Comicsgate is now gayer than Gamergate, and I would like to christen EVS as the Sargon of comicsgate
Given how often he's bragging about his channel size now to ignore the fact he can't get ashcans out, focuses and admits he doesn't like his own calling in favor of the 3-7 year YT flash, got cucked on his achievement by Order of Stick and is denying this, as well as having a fetish for another iron age culture (Rome), you're not entirely wrong.
 
Sir? That doesn't have anything to do with what I said, and I don't need a participation award.

BIGGEST CROWDFUNDED COMIC OF ALL TIME.

Refunds have been closed since September. Fulfillment continues!

The Order of The Stick made $1.2 Million on KickStarter. I have to ask, who exactly do you think you're fooling at this point?

I realize that after a year and a half and six or seven campaigns (that are all unfulfilled) that you generated less than $1M. It must hurt to know that Doug TenNapel did over $1M with just two campaigns and is set to deliver his EWJ book early. You shouldn't take that out on your customers though. Go to your IGG and give them the courtesy of a response for their inquiry.
 
I'm grateful to ALL my customers, including the 60,000 new subscribers on my channel that weren't aware of the first campaign. So I reopened it with a new variant for a limited time. 7 days.

Then, 4 months later, I opened a new campaign with a new cover. Same book.

That's not what's killing comics. Unasked for, unwanted variants foisted on retailers is the problem. My books went straight to their final destination, customers.

And there are still people who missed out, and we'll make sure they're able to hop on board too!

You point to numbers of subscribers here and there as if it indicates future sales successes. You have 37.4k Twitter followers, 132k You Tube subscribers.

Let's look at your backer counts for your 7 campaigns from first to last:
8,566
2,048
4,806
1,094
808
887
50

Now let's look at recent backer numbers for other's campaigns you promoted the most or even participated in:
Red Rooster - 3,575
Graveyard Shift II - 2,364
StarBlades - 2,245
Vestige 1 (EVS Cover) - 1,185
DeathSworn - 492
Futurists, Norah’s Saga, Bass Reeves - 650

Those numbers do not indicate that you have grown your customer base, they indicate you have shrunk it.

We all know Marvel and DC Comics and Hollywood have hurt their profits by injecting divisive politics into entertainment. We also know that creator's personal conduct towards fans have also hurt earnings. You have made comments and videos assailing people like Brie Larson and Rian Johnson for that very type of thing. You have said SJWs have damaged the sales of Marvel and DC Comics.

While Rian Johnson, Tim Miller, Brie Larson, Mark Waid, Gail Simone and others may say or do things that push away all who do not agree with them, one thing they do not do is to then push away those in their fan base. We have seen leftist's divisive movies, TV and comics fail, while pushing away half the population. But if they had went further and divided their own fan base and attacked their fans within it..their releases would have flopped even worse.

That line they do not cross, you stormed through! So now you cannot sell your products to the left and you have pushed away many buyers on the right. What does that leave you, a potential to sell to 10% of comic book buyers?

You have ranted about Rian Johnson and others for creating flops and blaming fans for their failures, then you went and not only did the same, but did it to a much higher degree. You seem to think you are immune to the effects of chasing away potential customers.

Your falling backer numbers and the very low backer numbers for IGG campaigns you have strongly supported indicate you have turned triumph into tragedy. You had a very small customer base to begin with but did manage to get them to buy a comic book for $25 and up. Maybe you let the high amount of money you sucked out of a few people go to your head.

The backer count had to be the focus. And to grow that count you had to completely satisfy them, especially by getting them their promised comics in schedule. A fan on your side would blindly argue for your comic, even denying it's many problems. A loyalty you could've had by getting the comic done fast. You had a chance to impress them and you blew it!

After you blew it, you were on thin ice and needed to be on your best behavior by being humble, receptive to critique, understanding backer frustration. But again, you chose the opposite of the wise move, as you always do.

The thin ice broke and look at those low backer numbers now. Forget about how you sucked $60,000 out of 800 backers. That only matters to your bank account. ComicsGate divided, the dwindling backer numbers....you caused it all.

You destroyed ComicsGate, you destroyed yourself, you even took a few others down with you. You are Anti-SJWs worst enemy and the SJWs greatest ally.

So you think you are going to topple the mainstream comic book industry? You? That would take a lot of right moves from someone notorious for making all the wrong moves.
 
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what if EVS was actually the saboteur that sent by the big 2 to disrupt the budding CG movement?

I mean this seems suspicious that the Big 2 usually brownbeat their way to anyone or anything that may pose a threat to their business. I mean the other indie publishers back then have to bow down to the big2, crowdfunding sites like Kickstarter now has people from the big2.

What if EVS was the agent sent by the big 2 to destroy comics gate???
Or they are really just that retarded not to learn from the mistakes of occupy, gamergate et al??
 
You point to numbers of subscribers here and there as if it indicates future sales successes. You have 37.4k Twitter followers, 132k You Tube subscribers.

Let's look at your backer counts for your 7 campaigns from first to last:
8,566
2,048
4,806
1,094
808
887
50

What exact margin of metrics would you consider a successful growing in audience? because the number you enumerated there is fluctuating. I am 100% certain that there's no way ethan could have replicated those 1st campaign numbers because at that time it was:
  1. the second full on comicsgate campaign + shilled relentlessly by the first comicsgate campaigner
  2. the first one made by a legitimate triple-A industry professional.
  3. Star wars hate bandwagon on full-effect on his channel
That lightning in a bottle is impossible to replicate. To add, The third campaign there actually doubled the 2nd campaign and only because the 2nd campaign was only open for several days.

The last campaign is also a faggot coin shit which is the dumbest thing anybody would sell.

My point: you don't need numbers to tell if ethan is shrinking his customer base. Anybody who isn't dumb already know he is. Showing arbitrary numbers where you can't conclude anything is just as dumb and gay.

Edit to add: Out of that 7 campaigns, 4 of those are the SAME cyberfrog issue and 2 of those are the vampirella issues which are drawn by ethan on cover only. So using those campaigns to make an analytical trend is dumb.
 
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Absolutely. Drawing comics is a lonely grind for subsistence level wages. No wonder most comic pros are fucking weirdos.

YouTube is social, it can be just as creative, it's spontaneous, pays well, and lets me spend the day with my family.

But I go back and forth. I've never been happier in comics than when I'm writing and drawing CYBERFROG. It's a much better experience than working for Marvel or DC.

Hey EVS, I got my copy of CF a month or so ago and it really is some of your best art. Looking forward to you developing this character and this world more.
 
Now let's look at recent backer numbers for other's campaigns you promoted the most or even participated in:
Red Rooster - 3,575
Graveyard Shift II - 2,364
StarBlades - 2,245
Vestige 1 (EVS Cover) - 1,185
DeathSworn - 492
Futurists, Norah’s Saga, Bass Reeves - 650

Mitch was less known then Ethan [and came out around the same time]

Graveyard Shift I was STRONGLY meh, so those numbers arent surprising
Starblades is amazing with a new artist
Vestige looks like it may be good maybe
Deathsworn is likely solid but not a rock star (like Starblades)
The Futurists is done by mitch who tainted the other two products by being late and gay
 
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