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So this is the new comic book movie, based on an obscure third party character from the 90s that had a couple decent arcs when he got rebooted around 2015 or so.

Note that the character is supposed to look like this:
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Now can anyone guess why this was changed, besides not wanting to have Vin Diesel wear makeup?
 
I'd recommend reading the Peter David run then, as Savage Hulk is barely a thing in it. Its also widely considered the best Hulk run.

Nah, what's it like?
Eh it was kinda confusing to me at first because I didn't read Powers/House of X

Basically the X-Men have gone full isolationist on an offplanet colony not exactly new but not what I was hoping for as I wanted them back in the X-Mansion and hated the Utopia story line, also Storm's dialogue in this issue makes her come off as a mutant supremacist villain but apparently House/Powers of X gives context to that.
 
Eh it was kinda confusing to me at first because I didn't read Powers/House of X

Basically the X-Men have gone full isolationist on an offplanet colony not exactly new but not what I was hoping for as I wanted them back in the X-Mansion and hated the Utopia story line, also Storm's dialogue in this issue makes her come off as a mutant supremacist villain but apparently House/Powers of X gives context to that.
Not gonna lie that sounds weird as hell.
 
Eh it was kinda confusing to me at first because I didn't read Powers/House of X

Basically the X-Men have gone full isolationist on an offplanet colony not exactly new but not what I was hoping for as I wanted them back in the X-Mansion and hated the Utopia story line, also Storm's dialogue in this issue makes her come off as a mutant supremacist villain but apparently House/Powers of X gives context to that.

I liked it. Hickman incorporates a lot of high concept hard sci fi into his writing, and here, where he's setting up the pieces for a large arc from almost nothing, he gets a lot of space.

I agree it's a bit weird in the context of X-Men generally, but from memory isn't there an in-plot reason things might be rather different? Or did they nix that? I'm only peripherally aware of X-Men goings on and am only really reading this because it's got Hickman's name on it, so I'm less bothered by any inconsistencies.

I'd also add that if anyone liked the high concept far future stuff, I strongly recommend checking out John C Wright's Count to Eschaton series. I have a very strong suspicion Hickman has read them at some point.
 
Teen Titans is really good at the moment, I'm loving Glass's run. The team lineup is awesome.
Meanwhile, Legion of Super-Heroes under Bendis is bad. It feels like a steel-toed boot to the groin when you consider that fans had been clamoring for it since Rebirth started and this is bar none the biggest disappointment. My biggest problem with the title is that it is some of the laziest writing I have ever seen from the man. Case in point, almost every single legionnaire from the Silver and Bronze Age (with some exceptions) has a counterpart here along with some new faces including a new Doctor Fate and Lantern character. However, Bendis fails to give any of them a distinct personality and most serve as background characters that he gives the most generic of dialogue.

Contrast with the post-Zero Hour reboot from twenty-five years ago that had subplots and political intrigue. Most of the Legionnaires had clearly defined personalities or motivations along with supporting characters and decent world-building. For example, Braal and Titan (the homewards of Cosmic Boy and Saturn Girl) were once at war with each other and United Planets law required the telepathic Titanians to wear a Saturn-shaped badge for identification because widespread mistrust of the race.

The writers also kept the team to a manageable number at first to focus on character interaction and development. While Ultra Boy appeared early in the reboot he did not join the team until much later and took the time to develop his romance with Phantom Girl/Apparition.

What is the plot of the first issue of the FOURTH reboot of the team you may ask? Something, something... Aquaman's trident Jon Kent/Superboy flies around "New" Metropolis while acting like a complete moron. The issue practically goes nowhere and, frankly, it had no real hook to grab new readers or old.
 
Meanwhile, Legion of Super-Heroes under Bendis is bad. It feels like a steel-toed boot to the groin when you consider that fans had been clamoring for it since Rebirth started and this is bar none the biggest disappointment. My biggest problem with the title is that it is some of the laziest writing I have ever seen from the man. Case in point, almost every single legionnaire from the Silver and Bronze Age (with some exceptions) has a counterpart here along with some new faces including a new Doctor Fate and Lantern character. However, Bendis fails to give any of them a distinct personality and most serve as background characters that he gives the most generic of dialogue.

Contrast with the post-Zero Hour reboot from twenty-five years ago that had subplots and political intrigue. Most of the Legionnaires had clearly defined personalities or motivations along with supporting characters and decent world-building. For example, Braal and Titan (the homewards of Cosmic Boy and Saturn Girl) were once at war with each other and United Planets law required the telepathic Titanians to wear a Saturn-shaped badge for identification because widespread mistrust of the race.

The writers also kept the team to a manageable number at first to focus on character interaction and development. While Ultra Boy appeared early in the reboot he did not join the team until much later and took the time to develop his romance with Phantom Girl/Apparition.

What is the plot of the first issue of the FOURTH reboot of the team you may ask? Something, something... Aquaman's trident Jon Kent/Superboy flies around "New" Metropolis while acting like a complete moron. The issue practically goes nowhere and, frankly, it had no real hook to grab new readers or old.
I agree with basically all this. The first issue of Legion was just a drag, I can't even remember the plot - it was basically someone saying "Hi Jon! This is the concept of the comic you're in, and here are the characters with handy popups!" ... I think?

I found about twenty issues of Waid's run of Legionnaires in a thrift store for 50c each, so I snapped them right up.
 
Meanwhile, Legion of Super-Heroes under Bendis is bad. It feels like a steel-toed boot to the groin when you consider that fans had been clamoring for it since Rebirth started and this is bar none the biggest disappointment. My biggest problem with the title is that it is some of the laziest writing I have ever seen from the man. Case in point, almost every single legionnaire from the Silver and Bronze Age (with some exceptions) has a counterpart here along with some new faces including a new Doctor Fate and Lantern character. However, Bendis fails to give any of them a distinct personality and most serve as background characters that he gives the most generic of dialogue.

Contrast with the post-Zero Hour reboot from twenty-five years ago that had subplots and political intrigue. Most of the Legionnaires had clearly defined personalities or motivations along with supporting characters and decent world-building. For example, Braal and Titan (the homewards of Cosmic Boy and Saturn Girl) were once at war with each other and United Planets law required the telepathic Titanians to wear a Saturn-shaped badge for identification because widespread mistrust of the race.

The writers also kept the team to a manageable number at first to focus on character interaction and development. While Ultra Boy appeared early in the reboot he did not join the team until much later and took the time to develop his romance with Phantom Girl/Apparition.

What is the plot of the first issue of the FOURTH reboot of the team you may ask? Something, something... Aquaman's trident Jon Kent/Superboy flies around "New" Metropolis while acting like a complete moron. The issue practically goes nowhere and, frankly, it had no real hook to grab new readers or old.

Bendis being unable to write actual personalities? Colour me shocked.
 
I agree with basically all this. The first issue of Legion was just a drag, I can't even remember the plot - it was basically someone saying "Hi Jon! This is the concept of the comic you're in, and here are the characters with handy popups!" ... I think?

I found about twenty issues of Waid's run of Legionnaires in a thrift store for 50c each, so I snapped them right up.

Waid's run (despite him being King Baby) on the Threeboot was very good. I liked his reimaginings of the origins of Triplicate Girl and Invisible Kid a lot. I disliked a lot of the "EAT IT GRAMPS!" attitude, but that petered out after the first year, thankfully. I HATED how he made Vi an edgy "i'm too kewl RIOT GRRL" and pretty much left out any LOSH member after Timberwolf. Once Waid left, the series went to shit, fast. The way the series ended felt so rushed (because it was), and left more threads hanging than Claremont's X-Men.
 
Waid's run (despite him being King Baby) on the Threeboot was very good. I liked his reimaginings of the origins of Triplicate Girl and Invisible Kid a lot. I disliked a lot of the "EAT IT GRAMPS!" attitude, but that petered out after the first year, thankfully. I HATED how he made Vi an edgy "i'm too kewl RIOT GRRL" and pretty much left out any LOSH member after Timberwolf. Once Waid left, the series went to shit, fast. The way the series ended felt so rushed (because it was), and left more threads hanging than Claremont's X-Men.
The ones I got were a bit random - I guess other people had either bought single issues before I got there, or whoever donated them had lost some/didn't buy them all. I'm liking it enough to want to fill in the gaps though - I always like basically whatever I read from both Waid and Gail Simone, despite their personalities!
 
Waid's run (despite him being King Baby) on the Threeboot was very good. I liked his reimaginings of the origins of Triplicate Girl and Invisible Kid a lot. I disliked a lot of the "EAT IT GRAMPS!" attitude, but that petered out after the first year, thankfully. I HATED how he made Vi an edgy "i'm too kewl RIOT GRRL" and pretty much left out any LOSH member after Timberwolf. Once Waid left, the series went to shit, fast. The way the series ended felt so rushed (because it was), and left more threads hanging than Claremont's X-Men.

Honestly, I just wish they'd stick with a Legion for a little while before rebooting it. Post "Five Years Later", I don't think any version has stuck around for more than a few years. While not all of them were great, they were still salvageable; they just always seem to get rebooted the second a new crossover shows up.

Truthfully...I think I read the entirety of the post-Waid run on the 3-boot, but I have no memory of what happened. It's just like this big...gap in my memory until the Levitz series from a few years later pops up.
 
Issue 26 of Immortal Hulk's got me worried.

Bruce Banner's become an eco terrorist, who raves about capitalism destroying the environment to the entire world. He also inspires young kids to riot against the rich corporations. I really hope the authors politics don't ruin this good story, and this is just a one off.
 
They say good writing can save a comic with bad art, but have there been times where the art in a comic was so bad that it kept you from reading/enjoying it? I really liked the Jem reboot comic, but when they got this artist it hurt my enjoyment that I stopped reading the series until they got rid of the artist.
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Issue 26 of Immortal Hulk's got me worried.

Bruce Banner's become an eco terrorist, who raves about capitalism destroying the environment to the entire world. He also inspires young kids to riot against the rich corporations. I really hope the authors politics don't ruin this good story, and this is just a one off.

I read that issue too. Ewing has peppered little bits of SJW shit throughout the run but it’s been pretty negligible so far. Issue 26 though was really egregious. It was basically a laundry list of what I assume are his political views, and if it continues over the next two or three issues I imagine there being a harsh dropoff of readers.

Also, I don’t know if anyone has been keeping up with Spawn but my description of Immortal Hulk #26 basically applies to the last 15 issues of Spawn as well (including a scene where Spawn lectures Trump on what a dummy he is). I’m honestly surprised the #300 milestone drew as many people as it did with how dull the book is right now.
 
Also, I don’t know if anyone has been keeping up with Spawn but my description of Immortal Hulk #26 basically applies to the last 15 issues of Spawn as well (including a scene where Spawn lectures Trump on what a dummy he is)
Jesus....that's for real??
 
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