Science Greta Thunberg Megathread - Dax Herrera says he wouldn't have a day ago (I somewhat doubt that)

Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? How can a 16-year-old girl in plaits, who has dedicated herself to the not-exactly sinister, authoritarian plot of trying to save the planet from extinction, inspire such incandescent rage?

Last week, she tweeted that she had arrived into New York after her two week transatlantic voyage: “Finally here. Thank you everyone who came to see me off in Plymouth, and everyone who welcomed me in New York! Now I’m going to rest for a few days, and on Friday I’m going to participate in the strike outside the UN”, before promptly giving a press conference in English. Yes, her second language.

Her remarks were immediately greeted with a barrage of jibes about virtue signalling, and snide remarks about the three crew members who will have to fly out to take the yacht home.

This shouldn’t need to be spelled out, but as some people don’t seem to have grasped it yet, we’ll give it a lash: Thunberg’s trip was an act of protest, not a sacred commandment or an instruction manual for the rest of us. Like all acts of protest, it was designed to be symbolic and provocative. For those who missed the point – and oh, how they missed the point – she retweeted someone else’s “friendly reminder” that: “You don’t need to spend two weeks on a boat to do your part to avert our climate emergency. You just need to do everything you can, with everyone you can, to change everything you can.”

Part of the reason she inspires such rage, of course, is blindingly obvious. Climate change is terrifying. The Amazon is burning. So too is the Savannah. Parts of the Arctic are on fire. Sea levels are rising. There are more vicious storms and wildfires and droughts and floods. Denial is easier than confronting the terrifying truth.

Then there’s the fact that we don’t like being made to feel bad about our life choices. That’s human nature. It’s why we sneer at vegans. It’s why we’re suspicious of sober people at parties. And if anything is likely to make you feel bad about your life choices -- as you jet back home after your third Ryanair European minibreak this season – it’ll be the sight of small-boned child subjecting herself to a fortnight being tossed about on the Atlantic, with only a bucket bearing a “Poo Only Please” sign by way of luxury, in order to make a point about climate change.

But that’s not virtue signalling, which anyone can indulge in. As Meghan Markle, Prince Harry, and their-four-private-jets-in-11-days found recently, virtue practising is a lot harder.

Even for someone who spends a lot of time on Twitter, some of the criticism levelled at Thunberg is astonishing. It is, simultaneously, the most vicious and the most fatuous kind of playground bullying. The Australian conservative climate change denier Andrew Bolt called her “deeply disturbed” and “freakishly influential” (the use of “freakish”, we can assume, was not incidental.) The former UKIP funder, Arron Banks, tweeted “Freaking yacht accidents do happen in August” (as above.) Brendan O’Neill of Spiked called her a “millenarian weirdo” (nope, still not incidental) in a piece that referred nastily to her “monotone voice” and “the look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes”.

But who’s the real freak – the activist whose determination has single-handedly started a powerful global movement for change, or the middle-aged man taunting a child with Asperger syndrome from behind the safety of their computer screens?

And that, of course, is the real reason why Greta Thunberg is so triggering. They can’t admit it even to themselves, so they ridicule her instead. But the truth is that they’re afraid of her. The poor dears are terrified of her as an individual, and of what she stands for – youth, determination, change.

She is part of a generation who won’t be cowed. She isn’t about to be shamed into submission by trolls. That’s not actually a look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes. It’s a look that says “you’re not relevant”.

The reason they taunt her with childish insults is because that’s all they’ve got. They’re out of ideas. They can’t dismantle her arguments, because she has science – and David Attenborough – on her side. They can’t win the debate with the persuasive force of their arguments, because these bargain bin cranks trade in jaded cynicism, not youthful passion. They can harangue her with snide tweets and hot take blogposts, but they won’t get a reaction because, frankly, she has bigger worries on her mind.

That’s not to say that we should accept everything Thunberg says without question. She is an idealist who is young enough to see the world in black and white. We need voices like hers. We should listen to what she has to say, without tuning the more moderate voices of dissent out.

Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? Because of what she represents. In an age when democracy is under assault, she hints at the emergency of new kind of power, a convergence of youth, popular protest and irrefutable science. And for her loudest detractors, she also represents something else: the sight of their impending obsolescence hurtling towards them.

joconnell@irishtimes.com
https://twitter.com/jenoconnell

https://web.archive.org/web/2019090...certain-men-1.4002264?localLinksEnabled=false
Found this thought-provoking indeed.

 

[Slimy Time]

You have to realize the UN is an impotent organization. It cannot enforce anything and has no means to. All of its soldiers are pedophiles and human smugglers and would literally be crushed by a small country's military. Its obvious what plutocrats have planned, but the UN can't enforce jack shit. Globohomos try through NGOs which a lot of countries are getting stricter with and with China growing tighter in Africa, the NGOs will be getting shafted. China doesn't give a fuck and could knowingly commit genocide and all they would get would be a finger wagging from the UN. Also their climate agenda will fail because India and China want to push into 1st world countries and they need rapid industry to do that. Good luck to the UN to enforce anything to nuclear powers.

This oh so much. Here is the child prophet, Greta, come to save us all from climate change armageddon, by teaming up with the largest collection of paedophiles, rapists and human smugglers on the planet. They are so inept and have so little power that when they recently told Japan to stop allowing loli drawings, Japan more or less told them to fuck off, we are not changing our laws. They give passes to their peacekeepers, who charge around 2 bucks for underage pussy from starving African girls, and thats if they're nice and decide not to just rape them. It was just last year they found 1700 of their guys had been doing this, with over 2000+ girls being abused, and those are the ones they know about/are publicly letting people know about.

This is the supranational body this teenage girl turns to in order to try to promote some leftist "Green New Deal" idea to allow governments to control industry and tax people. No one with a brain buys what this girl says, because everyone can see it for what it is. Propaganda.

 

[Ahriman]

Just a reminder.

 

[heathercho]

Very interesting. Until today, I just thought she was a pawn of the global(ist) elite but now it's looking like she's a fully paid up member of the elite. I wonder if she actually knows what she is doing or not ? Is she really being used, as many of us have thought, or is she fully aware of her situation ?

I think her Asperger's has rendered her an easy target for parents with an agenda. Her asperger's also gives her a distinctly robotic, uncanny valley like vibe when she's interacting with others. She's not a normal person - she's going to be easily obsessive, fixated and blunt. A perfect storm for creating a perfectly robotic pawn.

Basically, Chris was 100% right about assburgers.

 

[Dante Alighieri]

Of course she's being used, she's an underdeveloped sped who was bombarded with propaganda and emotionally manipulated to be their climate change pushing machine.

 

[Distant Stare]

her mother could not handle a bottle responsibly, and now her retarded womb spores are spreading chaos to the rest of the world. Curse whatever poisoned kresh of Mordor spawned this imp

 

[Secret Asshole]

But the UN is currently working hand in hand with NGO's, members of the elite such as Soros & the EU. If you're an American & Trump remains in office, this may not have any affect on you or your country but it probably will if the Dems get in. The UK & most EU countries have already signed up to the various UN agendas & most EU politicians are fully on board with the globalist agenda of mass migration, renewable energy & all the other bollox, most of them want this to happen. Even when the UK leaves the EU, the most important parts of our sovereignty will be in the hands of the UN, who will be our ultimate masters.

Not really. You have to understand that no matter who is in power, the US will not bend to the UN. Under Obama it didn't and countries tell it to fuck off regularly, like Japan and practically every country in the ME. Its a power projection thing. The US will not allow a foreign organization control over its bodies and laws. Its basically why we have a constitution. There would be a revolt from the judicial branch and the legislative if the executive tried to bow to it. Other countries will bow to the US but won't bow to the UN, because they're not going to bow to an international body that doesn't have any interests but its own in mind. The US is one of the founders of the UN and it is solely on American soil so we have channels to other nuclear powers. I'm sorry that England and the EU takes it seriously. Our entire history, law and government is diametrically opposed to being controlled by an un-elected foreign body.

I mean, I'm sorry your country is cucked, but we really can't do anything about that. You've already submitted to the EU, which was supposed to be a trade organization mainly and make travel easier, but basically turned into a power play by Germany to control Europe from Brussels. And of course Germany wants the UN to influence the world. Shit, people wanted NAFTA to go farther and we nearly had a revolt in government over that. I don't think anyone wants that to go beyond a trade agreement. So us bending to something else across the Atlantic and Pacific is nigh on 0% right about now.

I mean, you can literally go to the UN and go 'lol no' and they can't do anything. You can actually tell them to go fuck themselves. What are they going to do about it? The security council would be like, "No, you can't attack that country or tax them". Unfortunately the EU is basically the UN issuing these directives so....sorry? I mean, there's plenty of nations that ignore the UN. Pretty much literally everyone except for the EU. That's about it. Nobody cares what they think. And it sucks, but your problem is the EU, not the UN. And the EU holds a fuckton more power than the UN does or ever will. It actually has enforcement methods, so there's really nothing the US can do about that. I mean, elect more right wing parties? I don't really have an answer for you, I'm afraid.

This oh so much. Here is the child prophet, Greta, come to save us all from climate change armageddon, by teaming up with the largest collection of paedophiles, rapists and human smugglers on the planet. They are so inept and have so little power that when they recently told Japan to stop allowing loli drawings, Japan more or less told them to fuck off, we are not changing our laws. They give passes to their peacekeepers, who charge around 2 bucks for underage pussy from starving African girls, and thats if they're nice and decide not to just rape them. It was just last year they found 1700 of their guys had been doing this, with over 2000+ girls being abused, and those are the ones they know about/are publicly letting people know about.

This is the supranational body this teenage girl turns to in order to try to promote some leftist "Green New Deal" idea to allow governments to control industry and tax people. No one with a brain buys what this girl says, because everyone can see it for what it is. Propaganda.

Well, they told literally everyone to do that. Japan politely told them to go fuck themselves and shove it up your ass, your laws are non-binding and useless. Also, we pretty much ignore them constantly. The First Amendment would go against that and no prosecutor wants to lose the legal grey area where loli lies to put more time on the sentences of child molesters who get re-arrested. Also states have their own laws, so the states would be fucking screaming. So there's pretty much nil of that happening either. Plus not to mention that whole point. Nobody is going to take the UN seriously on child pornography while their own soldiers are running child pornography rings. Or literally anything else.

Yeah, and I think the Democrats are fucking out of their minds for inviting a random foreign teenager to speak as a fucking. expert. How much did her LARPer parents give to these Congressmen to appear? Nobody gives a fuck about a fake viral sensation given talking points and speeches by her handlers and parents, rambling in front of our legislative bodies. She's a fucking joke and useful for 2020. That's it. Climate change is nowhere near on the top five priorities of the vast majority of Americans.

 

[Sīn the Moon Daddy]

Not really. You have to understand that no matter who is in power, the US will not bend to the UN. Under Obama it didn't and countries tell it to fuck off regularly, like Japan and practically every country in the ME. Its a power projection thing. The US will not allow a foreign organization control over its bodies and laws. Its basically why we have a constitution. There would be a revolt from the judicial branch and the legislative if the executive tried to bow to it. Other countries will bow to the US but won't bow to the UN, because they're not going to bow to an international body that doesn't have any interests but its own in mind. The US is one of the founders of the UN and it is solely on American soil so we have channels to other nuclear powers. I'm sorry that England and the EU takes it seriously. Our entire history, law and government is diametrically opposed to being controlled by an un-elected foreign body.

I mean, I'm sorry your country is cucked, but we really can't do anything about that. You've already submitted to the EU, which was supposed to be a trade organization mainly and make travel easier, but basically turned into a power play by Germany to control Europe from Brussels. And of course Germany wants the UN to influence the world. Shit, people wanted NAFTA to go farther and we nearly had a revolt in government over that. I don't think anyone wants that to go beyond a trade agreement. So us bending to something else across the Atlantic and Pacific is nigh on 0% right about now.

I mean, you can literally go to the UN and go 'lol no' and they can't do anything. You can actually tell them to go fuck themselves. What are they going to do about it? The security council would be like, "No, you can't attack that country or tax them". Unfortunately the EU is basically the UN issuing these directives so....sorry? I mean, there's plenty of nations that ignore the UN. Pretty much literally everyone except for the EU. That's about it. Nobody cares what they think. And it sucks, but your problem is the EU, not the UN. And the EU holds a fuckton more power than the UN does or ever will. It actually has enforcement methods, so there's really nothing the US can do about that. I mean, elect more right wing parties? I don't really have an answer for you, I'm afraid.



Well, they told literally everyone to do that. Japan politely told them to go fuck themselves and shove it up your ass, your laws are non-binding and useless. Also, we pretty much ignore them constantly. The First Amendment would go against that and no prosecutor wants to lose the legal grey area where loli lies to put more time on the sentences of child molesters who get re-arrested. Also states have their own laws, so the states would be fucking screaming. So there's pretty much nil of that happening either. Plus not to mention that whole point. Nobody is going to take the UN seriously on child pornography while their own soldiers are running child pornography rings. Or literally anything else.

Yeah, and I think the Democrats are fucking out of their minds for inviting a random foreign teenager to speak as a fucking. expert. How much did her LARPer parents give to these Congressmen to appear? Nobody gives a fuck about a fake viral sensation given talking points and speeches by her handlers and parents, rambling in front of our legislative bodies. She's a fucking joke and useful for 2020. That's it. Climate change is nowhere near on the top five priorities of the vast majority of Americans.

There's really nothing in that speech that Alex Cortez couldn't have said, and she would have the advantage of actually being an elected member of the body she would have addressed. In fact, a professional politician¹ would have been leagues better than some little sailor girl from Europe who came to tell us about the time her parents mentally abused her until she had a nervous breakdown.

¹technically

 

[thx1138]

There's really nothing in that speech that Alex Cortez couldn't have said, and she would have the advantage of actually being an elected member of the body she would have addressed. In fact, a professional politician¹ would have been leagues better than some little sailor girl from Europe who came to tell us about the time her parents mentally abused her until she had a nervous breakdown.

¹technically

tbh if she keeps this up after 18 she deserves to be mentally abused

 

[Dynastier]

tbh if she keeps this up after 18 she deserves to be mentally abused

Eh, she is obviously mentally... Disadvantaged in some way...
You don't blame the retard to acting retarded. But you blame the supposed professionals who invited the retard to speak as an expert.

 

[Dynastier]

The problem is I have never seen these people come up with an actual viable solution. It's all either finger wagging at giant corporations who don't give a shit,pointless bullshit like California's idiotic plastic straw ban or apple pie in the sky stuff that if implemented would completely wreck our economy like the Green New Deal.

I myself have always wondered about the viability of hydro-power given our planet is 70% water.

Hydro power requires the water to be moving, not just existing. It is fantastic when it's feasible though. Similar to geothermal, it's practically free. Until we find out in 500 years that we've thrown the earth's core out of thermal equilibrium and the planet cracks in half, but that's someone else's problem!

 

[Super-Chevy454]

No offense to Greta, NPC and the SJWs, but some people do a better job to clean the place.

Some priceless comments will give you some smiles.

R.R. B.
Republicans cleaning up after Democrats. What else is new?

Christian Haydensen
You mean to say, doing instead of empty virtue signalling actually works?

Âmesang
…and the Left'll claim this is bad and oppressive and racist because …reasons.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

If she's got a raging, Swedish, autistic tranny-boner to save the world from plastic and CO2, could she fuck off to China, India and the African countries that China is basically buying up (like Uganda), and pester the shit out of them for a bit? I figure it'd take no more than 40 seconds of her protesting in Beijing before some Party member called dibs on her liver, for a transplant, or some street-sheeting pajeet beat her, raped her, and then threw her in the filth-filled Ganges.

Edit - Apparently, this flaming pozzer is the retard garnering all the attention at the DC "climate shutdown" -

Am I the only person that is certain that's Carlos Maza with tube socks stuff in his bitch-shorts?

Edit 2, because I clearly fail at life -

https://twitter.com/PoPville/status/1176124325805658112?s=20

There's a few jokes to be made, here.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Edit 2, because I clearly fail at life -

https://twitter.com/PoPville/status/1176124325805658112?s=20

View attachment 945921

There's a few jokes to be made, here.

Looks like that meme known as "Disaster girl" might smile to this.

 

[Distant Stare]

Elon Musk: Greta Thunberg Has 'Better Reasoning & More Heart' than Political Leaders

Tesla CEO Elon Musk stated in a recent tweet that he's a fan of 16-year-old climate activist Greta Thunberg. According to Musk, Thunberg has "better reasoning & more heart than the vast majority of political leaders."

www.breitbart.com

ELON NOOOOOOOOOO!

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

Elon Musk: Greta Thunberg Has 'Better Reasoning & More Heart' than Political Leaders

Tesla CEO Elon Musk stated in a recent tweet that he's a fan of 16-year-old climate activist Greta Thunberg. According to Musk, Thunberg has "better reasoning & more heart than the vast majority of political leaders."

www.breitbart.com

ELON NOOOOOOOOOO!

And he's been compromised somehow, is my bet.

 

[Malodorous Merkin]

So her parent's programmed their autist with a wokescold script, and that's her one and only trick.

Ryan Saavedra on Twitter

“This speech by far-left activist Greta Thunberg is absolute madness https://t.co/RFyIPZlajQ”

twitter.com

She's basically a Furby.

 

[Distant Stare]

And he's been compromised somehow, is my bet.

I write the saddest words of tongue and pen
Now I know, Null was right again

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Elon Musk: Greta Thunberg Has 'Better Reasoning & More Heart' than Political Leaders

Tesla CEO Elon Musk stated in a recent tweet that he's a fan of 16-year-old climate activist Greta Thunberg. According to Musk, Thunberg has "better reasoning & more heart than the vast majority of political leaders."

www.breitbart.com

ELON NOOOOOOOOOO!

Elon's whole schtick is to be a "problem solver" for the manufactured crisis of the eco-left. Made a damn mint on selling solar panels and sports cars to people with more money than sense. If he was honest about shit (piddly peak-shaving home electric production and a luxury electric cars don't mean shit environmentally speaking and is in fact just more blind consumerism the environuts say they hate) it would blow up his whole marketing scheme.

Also, what the fuck is with all these morons raging against plastics lately? It causes climate change somehow? That's dumb and untrue. It's a chemically stable bit of inert matter. Chuck it in a landfill and be done with it. Return that petroleum product to Mother Earth Gaia in a non-toxic form. Problem fucking solved.

 

[Wallace]

Also, what the fuck is with all these morons raging against plastics lately? It causes climate change somehow? That's dumb and untrue. It's a chemically stable bit of inert matter. Chuck it in a landfill and be done with it. Return that petroleum product to Mother Earth Gaia in a non-toxic form. Problem fucking solved.

The argument is that it ends up in the ocean and/or degrades into chemicals that harm human health.

But yeah, apparently a screaming autistic shitfit and emotional blackmail is the new face of environmentalism. I can't wait to see how Greta reacts when her handlers drop her.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

The argument is that it ends up in the ocean and/or degrades into chemicals that harm human health.

1) We don't throw garbage into the ocean. Especially in places like Kansas.
2) Plastics are just a bunch of carbon strung together. It's like a rotting tree as far as toxicity. Especially with the vastness of the ocean to dilute it. It isn't some finnicky saltwater aquarium for fuck sake.

God they are dumb. So so dumb. Make the proper noises and they believe anything.

Don't get me started on the "Pacific Garbage Patch" and what a load of horseshit that is. Their numbers are all inflated because they count shit like logs and seaweed as "garbage". Fact is plastics degrade if left in the open ocean. Just like the rest of that shit does. It's a non-issue.