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So, I was doing my usual defense news sperging over here and I came across this:
Military families treated to a surprise trip to a galaxy far, far away

Imagine hearing that you are one of the five military families being selected to tour a new Disney park... and the park they send you to is Galaxies Edge.

Just thought you guys would like this tidbit.
That's one hell of a monkey's paw wish, and Disney must be desperate for any kind of good press on Galaxy's Edge for them to send military families to GE for free.
 
As much as I want it to happen so the franchise finally course corrects, I see it unlikely.

The franchise finally course corrects? I'm sorry, I actually don't understand. The only course correction I want to see from the owners of Star Wars is a merciful cessation of new material. I really, really don't understand why anyone wants any more Star Wars movies. I thought this was the lesson that older nerds, as a group, learned from the prequels, that huge corporate-owned 'Intellectual Properties' do not, ever, get turned into a great creative vision. And if you didn't learn it from the prequels, you learned it from Indiana Jones & The Crystal Skull, or The Hobbit movies, or any of the hundreds of hours of focus-tested corporate schlock that have been shot out wearing the skins of beloved stories. They've been turned from 'stories' into 'franchises.'

And there's still people who want to see their favorite book get turned into a movie. Why!? Why would you want that!? I've been so happy that del Toro never got the chance to make At The Mountains of Madness, because I knew that if it turned out to be a good movie, that would lead to The H.P. Lovecraft Cinematic Universe, or something equally stomach-wrenching. Fuck, I know I'm Mad at the Internet, but seriously. Don't ask for more movies or bigger budgets. The punks were right about at least (and probably at most) one thing: selling out really is that bad. Pray your favorite author, comic, or game languishes in obscurity.
 
So, I was doing my usual defense news sperging over here and I came across this:
Military families treated to a surprise trip to a galaxy far, far away

Imagine hearing that you are one of the five military families being selected to tour a new Disney park... and the park they send you to is Galaxies Edge.

Just thought you guys would like this tidbit.
Its in moments like this they wished they were back at Afghanistan.
 
So, I was doing my usual defense news sperging over here and I came across this:
Military families treated to a surprise trip to a galaxy far, far away

Imagine hearing that you are one of the five military families being selected to tour a new Disney park... and the park they send you to is Galaxies Edge.

Just thought you guys would like this tidbit.
The craptastic overpriced food can't be worse than MREs, can it?
 
The franchise finally course corrects? I'm sorry, I actually don't understand. The only course correction I want to see from the owners of Star Wars is a merciful cessation of new material. I really, really don't understand why anyone wants any more Star Wars movies. I thought this was the lesson that older nerds, as a group, learned from the prequels, that huge corporate-owned 'Intellectual Properties' do not, ever, get turned into a great creative vision. And if you didn't learn it from the prequels, you learned it from Indiana Jones & The Crystal Skull, or The Hobbit movies, or any of the hundreds of hours of focus-tested corporate schlock that have been shot out wearing the skins of beloved stories. They've been turned from 'stories' into 'franchises.'

And there's still people who want to see their favorite book get turned into a movie. Why!? Why would you want that!? I've been so happy that del Toro never got the chance to make At The Mountains of Madness, because I knew that if it turned out to be a good movie, that would lead to The H.P. Lovecraft Cinematic Universe, or something equally stomach-wrenching. Fuck, I know I'm Mad at the Internet, but seriously. Don't ask for more movies or bigger budgets. The punks were right about at least (and probably at most) one thing: selling out really is that bad. Pray your favorite author, comic, or game languishes in obscurity.
Sometimes dead is better.
 
The franchise finally course corrects? I'm sorry, I actually don't understand. The only course correction I want to see from the owners of Star Wars is a merciful cessation of new material. I really, really don't understand why anyone wants any more Star Wars movies. I thought this was the lesson that older nerds, as a group, learned from the prequels, that huge corporate-owned 'Intellectual Properties' do not, ever, get turned into a great creative vision. And if you didn't learn it from the prequels, you learned it from Indiana Jones & The Crystal Skull, or The Hobbit movies, or any of the hundreds of hours of focus-tested corporate schlock that have been shot out wearing the skins of beloved stories. They've been turned from 'stories' into 'franchises.'

And there's still people who want to see their favorite book get turned into a movie. Why!? Why would you want that!? I've been so happy that del Toro never got the chance to make At The Mountains of Madness, because I knew that if it turned out to be a good movie, that would lead to The H.P. Lovecraft Cinematic Universe, or something equally stomach-wrenching. Fuck, I know I'm Mad at the Internet, but seriously. Don't ask for more movies or bigger budgets. The punks were right about at least (and probably at most) one thing: selling out really is that bad. Pray your favorite author, comic, or game languishes in obscurity.
Because life is garbage and if I don't entertain myself with factory produced mass media; I'll probably kill myself?
 
I mean TLJ is a mediocre movie, but its not the hellspawn abomination that its been dogpiled to(imo).

I have seen significantly worse films. Thats not a defense of it, I'm just trying to be fair. It utterly fails as a middle act to a trilogy.
To be quite frank I honestly hated TFA way more than TLJ, with TFA pretty much doing no better if not worse at how it just reset and undid achievements in order to restore the moronic status quo. I mean, I don't like TLJ, and its depiction of Luke even less, but you're right. People only seem to care about how shit Disney's movies are now because TLJ broke their precious nostalgia goggles in regards to Luke's depiction. For that, as much as I may hate to say it, I'm sort of grateful to TLJ for finally breaking the nostalgia spell Disney had over people (even if it may only be temporary).
The craptastic overpriced food can't be worse than MREs, can it?
But don't you want to try some of Galaxy's Edge delicious and spicy organic dirt salad with black beans and soy-based jerky bits?! Every growing Mouseketeer Resistance soldier needs some healthy Holdo Farms-brand SoyPro™ in their diet!
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Gatalentan males can't get enough of it! Just ask Chuck Wendig!

 
The franchise finally course corrects? I'm sorry, I actually don't understand. The only course correction I want to see from the owners of Star Wars is a merciful cessation of new material. I really, really don't understand why anyone wants any more Star Wars movies. I thought this was the lesson that older nerds, as a group, learned from the prequels, that huge corporate-owned 'Intellectual Properties' do not, ever, get turned into a great creative vision. And if you didn't learn it from the prequels, you learned it from Indiana Jones & The Crystal Skull, or The Hobbit movies, or any of the hundreds of hours of focus-tested corporate schlock that have been shot out wearing the skins of beloved stories. They've been turned from 'stories' into 'franchises.'

And there's still people who want to see their favorite book get turned into a movie. Why!? Why would you want that!? I've been so happy that del Toro never got the chance to make At The Mountains of Madness, because I knew that if it turned out to be a good movie, that would lead to The H.P. Lovecraft Cinematic Universe, or something equally stomach-wrenching. Fuck, I know I'm Mad at the Internet, but seriously. Don't ask for more movies or bigger budgets. The punks were right about at least (and probably at most) one thing: selling out really is that bad. Pray your favorite author, comic, or game languishes in obscurity.
I remember hoping the Dragonriders of Pern would be adapted when I was a teen. TV, movie, didn't matter. In the 90's the tech just wasn't there yet, and now I'm grateful it will hopefully never happen because there is so much of it that would be classed as "problematic" nowadays. Dear god I can hear the reee-ing over needing trans representation in queen riders, and that Lessa needs to be a POC. *shudder*
 
Even revisiting the old EU stuff I loved I get a sense of disgust and shame. Like in ''Go read some Greek philosopher instead of this shit faggot''. Call it autistic but I legit feel embarrassed to say I like something SW related, thanks to Roundhead and soy specimens like Eric Butts.
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I am not one to get into the High art/low art discussion, as it is mostly used by people to make themselves feel more important, superior and enlightened as the pages on Skeptics and Bread-Tubers can attest to. However, there comes a certain point where all the fun and care comes to an end where it goes from feeling to knowing a company is trying to sell you a dogturd and you are expected to eat it without complaint, otherwise you are entitled for somehow calling the writer's storytelling skills into question.

Though when did criticism get weaponized in a such a way where it can be heresy to call badly written characters into question?
 
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The franchise finally course corrects? I'm sorry, I actually don't understand. The only course correction I want to see from the owners of Star Wars is a merciful cessation of new material. I really, really don't understand why anyone wants any more Star Wars movies.

that huge corporate-owned 'Intellectual Properties' do not, ever, get turned into a great creative vision.

I get your point. I understand the distrust of big companies and all, But, for me, it's not as simple as "big company = bad".

In my opinion, it's all about putting it in the right hands. In the hands of artists.

Can you tell me, nobody, absolutely nobody, on this planet was capable of creating 3 amazing sequel movies, much better than what we got? I personally don't believe it.

Star Wars has been expanded just fine when competent people are in control. Knights of the old republic and Gendy Tatatvosky's work for Star wars were great and, in my opinion, so was Rogue one as they prove great stories can be told even if they aren't mainline movies. The whole point of creating such a massive fictional universe is that new stories can be created with ease and expand the story.

You mention the prequels as an example of "corporate-owned" equals bad, but Lucas owned Star Wars at that point, didn't he? In fact, Star Wars was the prime example of a creator-owned IP until Disney got to it. Lucas even wrote the screenplay for them.

Now I'm not defending "selling out" or "corporate greed". Its true corporations can and will betray whatever Ip there is for money, and that's why we are here nostalgic about the past, but it's also equally true that there is a huge line of people that would love to expand and continue the legacy of the past, and that would be amazing at it if they only got a chance.

Star Wars is in trouble not because a huge corporation owns it, but rather because the people in charge have no love for it or it's past to be worthy successors.
 
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So apparently Colin Trevorrow hated that he couldn’t do anything from TLJ for Episode IX so he left.
I guess it depends on what he wanted to keep from TLJ as to whether it was a good decision or not.

The franchise finally course corrects? I'm sorry, I actually don't understand. The only course correction I want to see from the owners of Star Wars is a merciful cessation of new material. I really, really don't understand why anyone wants any more Star Wars movies. I thought this was the lesson that older nerds, as a group, learned from the prequels, that huge corporate-owned 'Intellectual Properties' do not, ever, get turned into a great creative vision. And if you didn't learn it from the prequels, you learned it from Indiana Jones & The Crystal Skull, or The Hobbit movies, or any of the hundreds of hours of focus-tested corporate schlock that have been shot out wearing the skins of beloved stories. They've been turned from 'stories' into 'franchises.'

And there's still people who want to see their favorite book get turned into a movie. Why!? Why would you want that!? I've been so happy that del Toro never got the chance to make At The Mountains of Madness, because I knew that if it turned out to be a good movie, that would lead to The H.P. Lovecraft Cinematic Universe, or something equally stomach-wrenching. Fuck, I know I'm Mad at the Internet, but seriously. Don't ask for more movies or bigger budgets. The punks were right about at least (and probably at most) one thing: selling out really is that bad. Pray your favorite author, comic, or game languishes in obscurity.
Tons of EU material would make for great movies. The Thrawn Trilogy is a movie trilogy entirely in book form. In fact, the comic might as well be what it would be like as a movie. The problem is that they probably should have looked towards earlier material to adapt because it's intrinsically more creative than any idea they had because Star Wars was mostly dead at the time Thrawn wrote his trilogy. He had more freedom and wasn't beholden to make money like JJ was.
 
classed as "problematic" nowadays. Dear god I can hear the reee-ing over needing trans representation in queen riders, and that Lessa needs to be a POC. *shudder*

On the topic of book adaptations, I remembered the Percy Jackson series, which was just American Harry Potter with Gods. Anyways one of the complaints was the lack of PeeeeOSeeees in the series so when the sequel came out Rick Riordan went all out with the tokenism stereotypes.

You had your Latino character, the Oriental, the black girl from Louisiana and the Native American girl. Then you had the feisty strong Latina and the gay who had crush on a straight boy.

Off the top of my head: the Mexican was good at fixing mechanical, the Chinese dude could transform into a dragon and other creatures (I think), the black girl's mother did Voodoo/magic (they were from Lousiana after all), the Native American girl could sing and kept on referencing Native American legends and the Puerto Rican girl was "strong and fiesty" (like ya know your stereotypical Latina girl).
 
Holy fuck... A new pic from the Mandalorian came out and they've redesigned Trandoshans aka Bossk's species.

Here's what they used to look like:
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Here's what they look like now...
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Why the fuck do they have human faces? Do they wanna turn all aliens into humans? This is the same awful design they used in the Dr. Aphra comics but with completely human eyes.
Kind of reminds me of what 343 did to the elites and grunts in the new halos
 
Well, it looks as if Galaxy's Edge will be joining Defunct Land after all... Guess I should start planning to talk about the little things I didn't discuss from the park before they rebrand it.
 
At least C-3PX made sense in context, being an assassin that could perfectly disguise himself as a protocol droid, which tended to be near the rich and powerful anyway. 3P0 turning evil from Sith writing is stupid. Also, why would they need to read a fucking KNIFE? Oh yeah, let's read the KNIFE to figure out where Palpatine is or some such bullshit.
Eh I won't lie, I think that Sith-3PO could be sort of interesting as a potentially fun take on the character (It broke new ground!) as our simpering, mincing straight-bot goes full IG-88 (as long as they don't over do it or draw it out too long).

So since it could be interesting, and it does seem like Disney is doing that, they will obviously be doing it in the least fun way possible.

With 3PO being known for his constant worrying and campy puns, portraying him as pure evil would be too OOC. What they did in AotC was good though when they attached his body to a battle droid and he rightfully worried about attacking good guys against his will until Kit Fisto used a Force-push to deactivate him for Artoo to eventually find his collegaue and reconnect 3PO's head back to his original body.

Of course I don't see Disney keeping this in mind. With Sir Anthony Daniels saying he plans to bow out of the franchise after this film, it wouldn't surprise me to see Disney shit on the character of 3PO as a way to show total disrespect for Daniels' legacy with the SW franchise.

Worse, searching for a knife with ancient writing on it seems out of place for SW; it seems more appropriate for an Indiana Jones film. A sith holocron with vital information written in an older text -- thus requiring 3PO's translation skills -- could have worked better and reinforced the idea that defeating an enemy sometimes involves studying, and even accepting/using, their own tools and tactics against them.

I'm guessing this is another attempt at making a copycat 501st. And speaking of the 501st, the fan club has gotten into a lot of drama lately, with some well known members Ray Park and Daniel Logan leaving due to the group becoming too political, Disney-focused, business-focused and no longer fun, and a female member getting pissed off on twitter over the Fandom Menace making a silly Skeletor-knockoff of the 501st logo.

It's a shame that Disney and others shit on the 501st. From the impressions I got before the fallout, it wasn't just a group of dedicated cosplaying SW fans, but a group that actively sought to do good or be philanthropic while in costume. It's a shame that things took the turn they did and that the new improved legion being touted is the palindromic 105th.

Somewhat related, Disney's writing and especially the nu-EU books alway make me shudder when I read about them here.

There are people who can make a pretty decent livelihood with writing like this. Just think about it for a while. Feels revolting, doesn't it?

I don't know, some of you might write as a hobby too. Shit like this reveals what you need and don't need to make it as an author nowadays. Getting into writing for licences like Star Wars has been notoriously hard in the past, nowadays you just need to know the right people in this nepotist SJW industry and boom, you're golden.

Something I once heard what was supposed to be a career networking sessions seems to ring true here: It's not what you know or who you know, it's who knows you. You're right that being able to write for a franchise such as SW used to be selective enough that being invited to write something was truly prestigious. Now, it seems that anyone who is willing to write something that ticks off as many woke checkboxes as possible gets the nod – prior knowledge of the SWU no longer required.

One example of this is the Ahsoka novel. While the author seemed to do a decent job with whatever story line and constraints she was given, she decided to end the story with an ambiguous scene and later post on social media she wanted Ahsoka and Kaeden to share a romantic same-sex kiss in the scene only to decide against it. Fast forward to the present, and Disney seems to want to make up for that in giving Ahsoka a lesbian lover in the coming batch of Clone Wars. Forced diversity rarely works as intended and usually tends to redpill anyone previously on the fence or otherwise indifferent about this appearing in popular media.

In short, it stinks that wokeness trumps quality now when selecting authors for book spinoffs.

He states Lucasfilm wants NEW characters that resonate with NEW audiences like the Classic characters did with the Original fanbase. As they feel thats the only way to keep the brand going till the heat death of the universe
Right, I agree 100 percent. No more Skywalkers, no more over reliance of OT iconography. The long term goal is fine, its just Disney has executed this so poorly....
Luke, Han, Leia, Lando and Chewie on one last run togther was the money shot and they blew it

Agreed. With the actors/actresses that portrayed Chewie, Han, Lando, Leia, Luke, etc. being much older now, it would make sense for GL himself to want the new films to focus less on the original characters and give us new characters to continue to saga. Unfortunately, Disney chose to treat the OT characters poorly, erase their existence and contributions to the overall saga, and replace them with bland characters that have no redeeming traits, "good guys" that behave more as a deus ex machina than a hero, and villains so incompetent they look more like something out of a camp humor parody or trollfic.

See the huge drop in animation quality from TCW to SW Rebels.
Part of this was because of some unexplained desire to animate Rebels in a manner that mimicked the original animations Ralph McQuarrie did for ANH – if not the OT as a whole. Don't get me wrong, the idea itself seems interesting enough, but the end result as seen on screen seems like a major step down in quality than it does a change in animation style. I'm also not sure if I heard that in conjunction with the emphasis on McQuarrie art there was also a smaller animation budget.

Well, it looks as if Galaxy's Edge will be joining Defunct Land after all... Guess I should start planning to talk about the little things I didn't discuss from the park before they rebrand it.
Now is as good as a time as any, if you don't mind – especially if it involves additional Lego sets. :biggrin:
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I thought they were joking about having a toy be on the real episode 9 movie poster


but no that's exactly what they did, Palpatine's image on the poster is that of his toy.
 
It's kind of wack how fucking fast it went from "Is that Palpatine's laugh?" to having him on the god damn poster without a single reference to anything. He could've been the mastermind behind Snoke or some shit to actually build up the suspense and link, but instead of an intensely clever homage to the original trilogy, it literally just goes "uh, they already caught on, let's just continue to yank the fan service horn".

At least if we saw a bald bitch dark side Rey it'd be cool, but we won't. It'll be another "snapping in the mirror" or "vision that leads nowhere". Honestly at this point I just want to see my man Jayden get some screentime.
 
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