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The frustrating thing is that I feel like I've seen this anime.
I'd love to have a Guyver cel, but sadly this isn't one. There's only one scene like this in that series (where Aptom strips Mizuki naked to enrage Sho into action), and this ain't it, sadly.
 
You've got a good point. A lot of mid 80s anime had a lot of sexually explicit content (when fan service was actual fan service) and monster girl stuff now that I think about it. It may very well just be a generic horror movie clone.

I've been thinking about this a lot. I think creativity peaked in the 1970s to around the late 80s, VERY early 1990s (like 1992 or 1993). Like you could do whatever and people didn't give a shit and enjoyed it. People were going all out. So what about fan service? Who gives a shit? But now, everything is so sensitive and if you so too much cleavage people get the vapors. This secular Victorianism is getting really fucking old.
 
I've been thinking about this a lot. I think creativity peaked in the 1970s to around the late 80s, VERY early 1990s (like 1992 or 1993). Like you could do whatever and people didn't give a shit and enjoyed it. People were going all out. So what about fan service? Who gives a shit? But now, everything is so sensitive and if you so too much cleavage people get the vapors. This secular Victorianism is getting really fucking old.
Probably helped this was Japan anyway and was a culture apart from the West with what it deemed OK to show, at least when it came to the then new home video format and what with the bubble economy giving each project a "go ahead" without considering the losses.
 
Sexually-explicit horror anime peaked in the late 1980s and early 1990s, during the OVA boom when most mature anime went straight-to-video where animation studios didn't have the sorts of restrictions that broadcast television would impose on them. The move away from OVAs towards late night TV for mature anime starting in the late 1990s is a huge reason why that subgenre has largely gone extinct.
 
I've been thinking about this a lot. I think creativity peaked in the 1970s to around the late 80s, VERY early 1990s (like 1992 or 1993). Like you could do whatever and people didn't give a shit and enjoyed it. People were going all out. So what about fan service? Who gives a shit? But now, everything is so sensitive and if you so too much cleavage people get the vapors. This secular Victorianism is getting really fucking old.
A lot of that is thanks to Generation Snowflake finally entering the workforce and idiot Boomer run Megacorps thinking the screeching tards on Twitter speak for an entire demograph.
 
I've been thinking about this a lot. I think creativity peaked in the 1970s to around the late 80s, VERY early 1990s (like 1992 or 1993). Like you could do whatever and people didn't give a shit and enjoyed it. People were going all out. So what about fan service? Who gives a shit? But now, everything is so sensitive and if you so too much cleavage people get the vapors. This secular Victorianism is getting really fucking old.

I wouldn't necessarily say it was a ground breaking creative period in the medium, rather that it ended up being the only periods in the industry where there was any major innovations that ended up becoming the standard tropes.

The 70s had an expansion of manga and anime as a popular medium outside of the fringes that it had existed in during the early postwar and rebuilding period. The first major influences on the industry for better or for worse was Star Wars and the sudden fascination with space themes, and this was also reflected in western animation and science fiction as well.

That said for every ground breaking film or genre creation, there were just as many sub-par clones and derivative works trying to cash in on the animation booms of those periods. Undoubtedly some of the best and most influential works have come out of that period, but we tend to have a Pareto Principle view of that time period because we only really treasure the anime that has stood the test of time. The other 80 percent of crap from the period has fallen away. (Or in the North American anime boom, badly dubbed by Manga and sold over priced at HMV)

Now in regards to sexualization in anime for that period, I think it generally has three influences.

1) The lack of a viable Hentai oriented industry.

A lot of small film companies were trying to produce anime in a small market, even smaller in this market was the specialized adult market, which was always a second tier industry in terms of animations, preferring to focus on games and manga during the industry development period. As a result you had a lot of salacious stuff being put into anime during the period, because sex sells and they knew there was a bigger market return on films that had some form of nudity, fan service, or sexuality implied or explicit.

2) A more adult/young adult based core audience.

The early anime audiences were usually male based and in the older teenager/adult range. While a lot of anime was produced for children, and the TV shows of the time reflect this. (The original devil man syndication is an excellent example) Movies and more expressly when the market opened up to OVA's had access to more mature audiences, and you can see a clear delineation in the industry between TV and OVA, a classical example from the early 90's period is Bakurestu Hunter, the series which include female characters in semi-bondage gear was fairly avantgarde even for that later period of industry development, however it is in the OVA that you have extended sequences of characters bathing, multiple nude scenes, cruder jokes, and the original costumes from the manga.

3) Cultural restrictions on what could be shown in actual comparable cinema of the period.

This is not so much a 90's anime issue, as it would begin to even out with the OVA and then become more conservative again in the 2000's, when the industry started to implode. (Too much of the same derivative crap, lower product budgets, lower market returns, creative bankruptcy)

However for a brief period in Japan Anime was an industry leader in opening up new ideas to the Japanese public. The Japanese are conservative by nature, and it was Anime that started loosening the old conservative ideas that dictated the cinema industry and television creative output for the first time since the pre-war period.

Ironically the Tojo wartime government and postwar rebuilding period made Japan more conservative. General MacArthur's edict of censorship still exist today in law, which is why pixels and censorship is still used for genitals.

The sexualization and popularizing of tentacles in anime also grew up around this form of censorship, as it was allowable by censors to show implied penetration, and tentacles since they did not equate to sexual appendages served as proxies.

Sexually-explicit horror anime peaked in the late 1980s and early 1990s, during the OVA boom when most mature anime went straight-to-video where animation studios didn't have the sorts of restrictions that broadcast television would impose on them. The move away from OVAs towards late night TV for mature anime starting in the late 1990s is a huge reason why that subgenre has largely gone extinct.

I'd say it was partly that, but as well as the development of the adult market as well very much removed the need for more sexually explicit series for the mainstream market.
 
I kinda wish artists would use more anime in their work.
Madonna, Britney Spears, Michael B Jordan, and Christina Aguilera are all fans of the genre.
 
I kinda wish artists would use more anime in their work.
Madonna, Britney Spears, Michael B Jordan, and Christina Aguilera are all fans of the genre.
At least Michael Jackson tried...
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The sexualization and popularizing of tentacles in anime also grew up around this form of censorship, as it was allowable by censors to show implied penetration, and tentacles since they did not equate to sexual appendages served as proxies.
Just look up "Fisherman Wife's Dream.

At least Michael Jackson tried...
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My favorite music vid and song of all time. I was always wondering what those clips were in the Scream music video
 
At least Michael Jackson tried...
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Yeah. Madonna used Perfect Blue, Legend of the Overfiend, and some other violent hentai thing in a segment during her Drowned World tour. I'd love to see her do more of that.


Britney Spears' video for Break the Ice is anime inspired. Also her son is a huge DBZ fan, as is Michael B Jordan. She frequently posts her son's art like Piccolo, Frieza, etc.

Xtina lived in Japan as a girl. I did not know that until recently.
 
At least Michael Jackson tried...
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What do Michael Jackson and Zillion have in common?

They both became Sega games!


 
Just look up "Fisherman Wife's Dream.


My favorite music vid and song of all time. I was always wondering what those clips were in the Scream music video
I remember years later watching Zillion and seeing that scene come up, ironically it happens during a training scene where the new recruit member of the team gets surprised by an enemy AI and that's the shot they used in the video! It comes right from the second episode!

Yeah. Madonna used Perfect Blue, Legend of the Overfiend, and some other violent hentai thing in a segment during her Drowned World tour. I'd love to see her do more of that.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=r-Je_lIR-Xo
Seeing the thumbnail, I see she also used a shot from "The Humanoid" as well! That one's a pretty lame OVA that somehow found it's way over here and it's pretty bad! The only thing that saved it was it's design for the robot coming from Hajime Sorayama. That and the amount of times coffee gets mentioned throughout like they were bankrolled by some coffee organization!

What do Michael Jackson and Zillion have in common?

They both became Sega games!


And because I might as well spoil that further..

The arcade version was better!

Plus the Zillion game is like a clone of Impossible Mission. Sega also did a second Zillion game for the Master System that was called "Tri Formation"....
 
Yeah, I also have Zillion II: the Tri-Formation but I was disappointed by how simplistic it was compared to the original game. It was just alternating side-scrolling bike levels and run, jump, and shoot levels.
 
Yeah, I also have Zillion II: the Tri-Formation but I was disappointed by how simplistic it was compared to the original game. It was just alternating side-scrolling bike levels and run, jump, and shoot levels.
Yeah they really didn't know where to go with this after that point. At least the anime side of things got a nice follow-up OVA of the guys being a rock band after the series.
 
So I just got in the mail a manga I had ordered off of Amazon, but it came from someplace called "Robert's Anime Corner Store", and I'm really impressed with the packaging. I checked out the website 'cause I hadn't heard of this, and it's like a '90s time capsule. I'm actually pretty interested, but I don't know how well-known the site is (it's been around since '97, so I'm assuming it's big), let alone its credibility. It's hosted by Yahoo! Store, but everything otherwise looks genuine.

Thoughts?

EDIT: Whoops, forgot to put his name down, was just glancing at the tab.
 
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I'm pretty sure I ordered a thing or two from Anime Corner Store back in the day, quite likely anime soundtrack CDs since they stock legitimate import CDs instead of Taiwanese bootlegs. (Are Taiwanese bootleg CDs from companies like SonMay even still a thing anymore?)

I'm surprised it's still around.
 
I finally got drunk and depressed enough to watch Bagi The Monster of Mighty Nature recently. Much to my surprise it was actually pretty good, especially for its age and the fact that its basically furry shit. Bagi having psionic powers was complete bullshit though.

To the uninitiated:
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I really don't know how to feel about the way they gave Bagi a lot of realistic animal behaviors. It really teeters on the line of that "Danger Zone" meme about furry shit being a little too close to the way real animals act. I can excuse a lot of that stuff because I read Classic SF and that bullshit basically invented furries, but man there were some parts of this that were just straight-up uncomfortable. Still a decent movie, I'd have just played it up more as a horror piece if i was in charge of it.
 
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