Trump Derangement Syndrome - Orange man bad. Read the OP! (ᴛʜɪs ᴛʜʀᴇᴀᴅ ɪs ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴋɪᴡɪ ғᴀʀᴍs ʀᴇᴠɪᴇᴡs ɴᴏᴡ) 🗿🗿🗿🗿

[It's HK-47]

Also fuck Nike and Colin Kaepernick. How shit do you have to be to turn me over to Michael Avenatti's side? He's still a creepy porn lawyer, but I wish he had shaken down Nike for the money.

Funnier still is how Nike yanked the shoes to protest whatever-the-fuck Kaepernick was flailing about, but in the same breath bent the knee to China in a completely unrelated issue.

 

[Marchesa of the Vast]

I miss when leftists would just target corporations and the investor class instead of being their toadies against the working class.

 

[Creep3r]

I miss when leftists would just target corporations and investor class instead of being their toadies against the working class.

Instead they now endlessly suck the cocks of the "corporate fat cats" and "capitalist pigs" they claim to have hated so much simply because they're now spewing politically-approved "correct opinions" and are therefore on the right side of history. Glory to New York, California, and the rich and powerful corporations!

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

Realistically speaking, for the ruralite trump supporter a civil war looks like a lot of being hungry and sitting in a deer stand. For an urbanite one can only imagine. Any large scale civil conflict in the US will be thoroughly interesting from a metapolitical perspective and horrifying in the way only civil wars between the religious and irreligious can be.

It feels like a second season to the cult classic 1930s anime 'Franco Senpai Commie Slaughter: Spain Wars'


The anarchists in Spain thought it was going to be an easy romp, and it was for the first portion. They made a sport out of shelling a few forts and the like, for example. Everyone went to go pull the rope on a howitzer. But when Franco punitively occupies you with Moroccans because your buddies decided to rape some nuns and burn down a church, reality sets in very quickly. The young anarchists, communists, and republicans started to infight as things went south. I imagine they'll go out thinking it'll be some grand adventure only to realize how horrifying modern guerrilla warfare is, if anything happens.

I will say on the whole civil war thing I do fear there are some on the right who also imagine a civil war would be a cakewalk that solves most of our problems (I'm not refering to you here Vitize, I just think your post is a good point to segue into my thoughts on this).

My main arguement being that while the Spanish Civil war is now seen as something where Franco was set to win from the start, in reality Franco boached the intended coup and started at a disadvantage. The Spanish military as a whole did not side with one side or the other, but rather it generally depended on where they were located: If they were in Nationalist territory they sided with the Nationalists; If they were in Republican territory they sided with the Republican government. Many individual activists of both political wings started dropping like flies too: if you were a journalist or a politician with any notority there was a good chance someone would try and kill you. Really, considering Franco's starting position he was lucky that the left fell into infighting due to anarcho-autism. My two points here is that:

1. People very quickly sided with whoever was in control of their area; There was not a complete military defection to the Nationalist uprising like I see some people say might happen in some hypothetical future American civil war.
2. The explosion of assassinates right before and during the Spanish Civil War is notable, it was not a cakewalk for anyone. In any hypothetical civil war if you have done anything of note, there is again a good chance you would be targeted.

I also feel there is the one giant elephant in the room here that America is way more diverse than 1930s Spain, which ensures any conflict here would be an even bigger clusterfuck that probably will have more than 2 sides (similar to Lebanon or Syria in that aspect).

And to be fair, when I say right wing I'm referring to boomers, /pol/acks, and some people I know in real life, which may not be the most accurate representation of the right wing as a whole.

tl;dr: A future US Civil is probably not a magic fix it button some seem to think it would be, nor would it likely be a cakewalk for any side. Also yadda yadda no civil war is happening before another great depression hits and people are not getting food yadda yadda.

 

[Vitoze]

I will say on the whole civil war thing I do fear there are some on the right who also imagine a civil war would be a cakewalk that solves most of our problems (I'm not refering to you here Vitize, I just think your post is a good point to segue into my thoughts on this).

My main arguement being that while the Spanish Civil war is now seen as something where Franco was set to win from the start, in reality Franco boached the intended coup and started at a disadvantage.

Franco won because he was smart, no other factor influenced the war moreso. He made the right strategic calls, possessed the bulk of the combat hardened troops, and held the enemy up in cities. That won the war. It was anybody's game.

 

[Flexo]

Please... Christians practically invented virtue signalling...

There were religions around before Christianity.

Hell the story of the widow's mite in the NT is all about virtue signalling. Before that there's a lot of OT prophets who wrote entire books blasting the jews for virtue signalling.

 

[AprilRains]

There is no such fucking thing as an American fucking civil war that doesn't become a complete fucking shitfest. people who fantasize that they will do well in such a situation are like the people who think that they could make it in prison. They are so fucking wrong.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

Franco won because he was smart, no other factor influenced the war moreso. He made the right strategic calls, possessed the bulk of the combat hardened troops, and held the enemy up in cities. That won the war. It was anybody's game.

That is true, to Franco's credit he made the best of a suboptimal situation and turned it over a few years into a complete stomp

But I guess my main point if I boil all this down is I feel like there are some right wingers who take it all for granted. They romanticize a future civil war and just assume some great leader like Franco comes down delivers us from doom.

 

[Imnus]

What people don't seem to get is that there is much worse things than civil war (as horrific as it may be).

Now there won't a civil war in the US, mostly because right wingers are absolutely retarded, everytime they say 'if the left starts a civil war they'll be curbstomped'. OK that's probably true at this moment in time, but why in the fuck would the left start a war when they have been winning for almost sixty years.

There may be some retarded useful idiots that are absolutely crushed about Trump, and then I think most of them are just pretending because they think that their faux outrage will help stop Trump somehow even if it's a little, and they're probably right since a lot of people fall for the drama. But still, the truth is that Trump is barely a small inconvenience in the grand scheme of things.

Overall their agenda keeps advancing and they keep getting in control of every important and semi-important institution in the US, eventually they'll get the US military too and eventually they'll also repeal the 2A (and probably the 1A) at least in practice in most states and it's then that they may start a tiny civil war against the few remaining to bring them to heel.

The left is fighting a long ass war and the right (with some exceptions) is completely oblivious to it.

 

[Buttigieg2020]

What people don't seem to get is that there is much worse things than civil war (as horrific as it may be).

Now there won't a civil war in the US, mostly because right wingers are absolutely exceptional, everytime they say 'if the left starts a civil war they'll be curbstomped'. OK that's probably true at this moment in time, but why in the fuck would the left start a war when they have been winning for almost sixty years.

There may be some exceptional useful idiots that are absolutely crushed about Trump, and then I think most of them are just pretending because they think that their faux outrage will help stop Trump somehow even if it's a little, and they're probably right since a lot of people fall for the drama. But still, the truth is that Trump is barely a small inconvenience in the grand scheme of things.

Overall their agenda keeps advancing and they keep getting in control of every important and semi-important institution in the US, eventually they'll get the US military too and eventually they'll also repeal the 2A (and probably the 1A) at least in practice in most states and it's then that they may start a tiny civil war against the few remaining to bring them to heel.

The left is fighting a long ass war and the right (with some exceptions) is completely oblivious to it.

Their strategy worked so well for so long because they made incremental changes that seemed fair at the time. In the last decade they've almost completely abandoned incrementalism. To me, all it takes is one blue congress and executive for all bets to be off.

 

[BR55]

4. BETRAYAL!!! Trump was one of them for a while, but then signed up to be a Republican. This terrifies them because since he was money and business associates with a lot of media guys, he knows their gropey ways.

Didn't Trump bounce around between parties?
From what I remember he started out as a Republican in the days of Nixon. Stayed that way until the 90's when he went Reform Party.
Checked out after a short POTUS run in 2000 because the Reform Party had become a clusterfuck. Although it had kinda always been a shitshow to be honest.
Then went Democrat until Obama happened.
Then finally returned to where he started when he decided to make the GOP his final and greatest renovation project.

 

[MightyBiteySnake]

Ironically Fox News is doing quite well.

Makes me wonder when outlets will start copying it and go Rightwing for those sweet ratings.

And how exactly would they go about that? The right wingers they've been calling fascists for the last 3 years aren't likely to forget what kinda shit went down and the left wingers they've been pandering to would probably burn down the news buildings for turning coat.

 

[AprilRains]

And how exactly would they go about that? The right wingers they've been calling fascists for the last 3 years aren't likely to forget what kinda shit went down and the left wingers they've been pandering to would probably burn down the news buildings for turning coat.

I think the right-wingers would be so happy to feel like they'd won that they would patronize their new allies with delight.

 

[Buttigieg2020]

Fox News and MSNBC's median audience age is 65 and CNN is 61. Fox is doing well because the old people that watch cable news are conservative. It's a dying market overall.

 

[Dante Alighieri]

And how exactly would they go about that? The right wingers they've been calling fascists for the last 3 years aren't likely to forget what kinda shit went down and the left wingers they've been pandering to would probably burn down the news buildings for turning coat.

By doing the slow boil.

 

[Flexo]

9/11 bought the right a couple of years of immunity from the media. But the lunatic left didn't start reclaiming the media until 2005 and Hurricane Katrina happened. Katrina was the literal turning point in terms of it being such a disaster that it made it impossible for the press to keep giving Bush a pass and they had to start criticizing him. And you had Keith Olberman on MSNBC, basically mainstreaming the Daily Show formula for prime time cable news and making money for the struggling network.

Rathergate was different in that Dan Rather thought he had had W dead to rights but it turned out the entire thing was one huge honeypot that the Bush administration had led Rather into and basically won flawless victory destroying Rather's credibility and getting him fired.

Journalists are STILL fucking butt-hurt that W and Cheney played Rather like a chump and fucked him so badly that they destroyed his career AND got away with it with zero consequences. Among the left, especially Rachel Maddow, Rather's fall from grace is something that is one of her chief motivators for why she hates and seeks to destroy the GOP. Rather is a

That's hilarious that those two points are in the same post. "The media loved Bush! And this media figure tried to destroy him."

Rather was one of the few media folks who were openly against Bush in the lead up to the 2004 election and was frantically looking for a smoking gun to use against Bush after the Swiftboat debacle against Kerry.

Oooooo.... Rather is supposed to be the "exception."

Sorry. No. Bush then was just like Trump now: Hitler. Any claims that the media went easy on him are bullshit.

For an example, here's the media research center's "notable quotes" ceremony for 2001.

Year End Awards: The Best Notable Quotables of 2001

8 PAGES worth.

Here's 2002: https://www.mrc.org/notable-quotables/best-notable-quotables/2002

I mean fucking Helen Thomas was still alive and lionized.

I have a sinking feeling they are ok being as extreme and vindictive as they are and brush off warnings of escalating violence because think battle will be glamorous and fun like their Japanese animes. They talk like they’re eager for a fight, which is horrific but what can you expect from someone who understands real life through the lens of fiction.

Well when all you know is Harry Potter where the "fighting" is just pointing sticks at each other...

The left is fighting a long ass war and the right (with some exceptions) is completely oblivious to it.

Rated you disagree for this. A LOT on the right do know. That's why many of them are itching for civil war. They think the out and open conflict will favor them instead of this slow burn.

 

[Jigglyjogglers]

Didn't Trump bounce around between parties?
From what I remember he started out as a Republican in the days of Nixon. Stayed that way until the 90's when he went Reform Party.
Checked out after a short POTUS run in 2000 because the Reform Party had become a clusterfuck. Although it had kinda always been a shitshow to be honest.
Then went Democrat until Obama happened.
Then finally returned to where he started when he decided to make the GOP his final and greatest renovation project.

I'm not sure how much that's him changing over time and how much that's the parties flailing around flip-flopping on bullshit and him just choosing whoever he thinks is the least moronic at the moment.

 

[It's HK-47]

I've never actually heard her talk, before. How in the world does anyone take this person seriously?

 

[MembersSchoolPizza]

I think the right-wingers would be so happy to feel like they'd won that they would patronize their new allies with delight.

I don't think you realize quite how deep the hatred of CNN and (more recently) MSNBC goes among conservatives.

 

[Buttigieg2020]

I've never actually heard her talk, before. How in the world does anyone take this person seriously?

Her voice is literally one long voice crack.