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>erase your existence with a weaponized census

What the hell does that even mean?

Essentially it's an admission that blue states will lose more electoral votes than red states if we don't count illegals as part of the population, but they can't just phrase it that way because it would be admitting they only care about illegals as a way to get EC votes. So that's the #woke spin, it's not that illegal immigrants are not getting counted towards EC votes, it's that True And Honest Immigrants are having their existence erased.
 
>erase your existence with a weaponized census

What the hell does that even mean?
Has to do with the fight over the 'are you a citizen' question on the census. California, among other states, wants illegal aliens counted as full citizens for purposes of apportionment (representatives and electoral votes).

It's basically the 3/5ths compromise all over again, and I wouldn't be surprised if some GOP wag suggested just that to troll the fuckers.

Edit: beaten to the punch by @Jigglyjogglers -- well done, sir.
 
They're probably banking on the rest of the world joining in on the purge if any right-wingers put up a fight. America is supposed to be a far-right anomaly (because only Western countries have politics) in their minds, so "Loonie left" there is "normal" everyone else.
Arent right and far-right parties winning elections?

That's implicitly why I don't believe it was the actual purpose. He announced it, and then barely a few hours later agreed to postpone it to work with the Democrats on border enforcement. The Democrats now have 14 days to work with him and his administration to try and come to a compromise, or the deportations begin. He's going to be Tweeting about it every single day too, forcing the MSM to talk about it and bringing this all into a nation-wide focus.

If they work with him, their "base" gets pissed off because they turned around and started bringing a hammer down on illegals and it just proves that there actually is a border crisis. If they refuse to work with him, the deportations are on their heads because they were given (yet again) the opportunity to come to the table and refused to do anything about the border crisis, making the general public pissed off because they flouted yet another opportunity to do something other than scream at their own asses, for once.

There's no winning play.
Divorced from reality. Completely. There isn't a shred of sanity left there.

Here's the timeline of how this outrage narrative about the border ramped up.


An Obama aide tweeted the photos of kids in cages. He blamed Trump. The photo was from the Obama era.

Then the media started the, "It doesn't matter when it started, Trump's doing more of it and it's wrong and immoral."

There was a little sanity for a BIT...


The title that the url belies: "Obama Held More Than Double the Number of Children in Shelters Compared to Trump White House"

For a BIT even Obama's people tried to rein in the outrage.


On Fox News Sunday, former DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson said that under the Barack Obama administration, they did detain some children alone and some families together, two policies for which Donald Trump has been widely blamed.

Johnson told host Chris Wallace that they "thought it was necessary at the time," and that it is still is.

"Without a doubt the images, and the reality, from 2014, just like 2018, are not pretty," Johnson said. "We expanded it, I freely admit it was controversial, we believed it was necessary at the time, I still believe it is necessary to remain a certain capability for families."

But then there was an election coming and the Democrats had a big issue. There was no room here for any honesty. And certainly no wall and increased funding.

And that's when you heard them all say, "Manufactured crisis." "No crisis." "There is no crisis on the border."

But there has been a crisis on the border and all the talk of amnesty and walls being immoral and "what even are borders" and "no human is illegal" gave rise to a system in central and south America where people were seeing commercials on tv in their home nations telling them to come to America with their kids because they would not be turned away.

Now... a bunch of kids had come already unaccompanied and were held in detention. Some of them released to family in the states with permission of parents. We have lost track of some of them.

And even CNN had some sanity last May about it.


In short... these kids, who disappeared BEFORE we decided that we couldn't have open borders and would hold illegal crossers in detention... were likely given to family members who were in the country illegally and ... whoopsie... they have disappeared!

But of course the bad media made it seem like "okay... there's bad press, so get yourself to America with some kids and they are going to let you right in!"


And boom! In May we find out that people are kidnapping kids in order to get into the USA! That's why you've heard that DHS is sometimes doing DNA testing to see if the kids actually belong to the adults bringing them in!

Obviously, post-election it's only getting worse. People are crossing in record numbers because they know there's a crisis and we can't deal with it.


Two months ago the Adminstration asked for extra funding to care for the people in detention. But Congress can't be arsed to do it. It's almost as though they are ENJOYING the mileage they are getting out of facilities that are overwhelmed and overcrowded.

We heard and were OUTRAGED that the Trump Administration was using an old base that had interned Japanese Americans to hold these illegals. But Obama had done the same.

People are outraged that there are areas with tents to hold illegals.


They are air conditioned tents equipped with bunk beds.

Now that AOC has brayed about "concentration camps" everyone's going full bore trying to insist that the administration are Nazis and she accused them today of "starving kids" on the border. Hey, here's a thought, when the government tells you that money will run out in June after they ask for it in May...maybe give them some damned money to take care of the problem you have created and fail UTTERLY to address.

Because NO... the USA isn't "responsible" for all of these illegals because we somehow ruined every nation south of us. Most of these people will NOT qualify for the asylum they claimed after the crossed the border illegally and got caught.

They are not fleeing "climate change". I haven't seen a single one say, "The weather's unlivable down there!"

Most crossed a LOT of safe harbor countries in order to self-select the USA.

Chad Prather said that nothing is a "concentration camp" that you can completely avoid by simply walking the other direction.

350 Congolese recently came in and were released into San Antonio. They flew into Ecuador because there are no visa requirements and came to the USA. I sure don't know how we are the first safe harbor for THEM!

It seems more like people from all around the world are discovering that HEY... if you can get across the Southern Border of the USA, you are home free.

And after all, our Democrats are saying that barriers are immoral and our government is basically Nazi because we have the same rules we had during the Obama Era. But everything has changed now in the space of just a few years. They never INTENDED to deal with this crisis. They want it. They need it and they are going to exploit it, the public be damned.

And they are right back to their old tricks.

 
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Arent right and far-right parties winning elections?

Depends on your definition of "right" and "far-right". Remember that according to a lot of the rest of the world, the US doesn't even have a left-wing party. Our ever more blatantly socialist DNC still looks right-wing to them because they're so far gone. So especially when it's their news calling someone "right" or "far-right", take it with a grain of salt. It's far more likely that it actually means "moderate left who just wants at least some kind of controls on immigration and maybe for the government to run less than 80% of the private sector".
 
Things like this are why I, as a former Democrat, can probably never bring myself to vote for a Democrat again.

It's infuriating the games that are being played with the border.
 
Sadly, now that centrism is a bad thing to the left, it's their solemn duty to gatekeep every hobby and every form of entertainment so that those who won't back the right side of history, much less be a brain-dead DRUMPF fan can't have ANY fun at ALL until they shape up and LIVE RIGHT.
The issue with any religion is that one cannot take a neutral position with the Devil.

Everything makes sense when you realize the Left has left politics and gotten religion a long time ago...
 
They're probably banking on the rest of the world joining in on the purge if any right-wingers put up a fight.
If there is a fight, it won't be the left that's still standing. Those 'deplorables', yeah, they're mainly from the South and the Midwest. You know, the ones who grew up in rural areas shooting off guns. And they're the source of most of your military veterans, the people who the left call tools of American imperialism and killers of brown people. The kind of people who don't have safe spaces and trigger warnings, only safeties for their triggers. Trust me, it won't be them that wind up bloodied on the floor.

Remember that according to a lot of the rest of the world, the US doesn't even have a left-wing party.
America is also the most successful country in the world. I wonder if that has to do with the relatively minimal amount of left wing policies...
 
What in the HELL has knitting have to do with politics? I could understand a gaming or entertainment forum going full TDS Exceptional since media often reflects politics or pushes political narratives. I could even understand a coding/programmer's site getting TDS since programs are used so often in the crafting of media and propaganda.

But knitting and crocheting? Other than the making of Pussy Hats, what has crafting have to do with politics? Is this because Mommybloggers who are rich enough to afford 30 dollar skeins of merino wool yarn are more likely to be Liberal? Is this all because of one deranged SJW who stumbled upon the site and made it her personal crusade to take it over and weaponize it against Trumpemort's Army? I do a little crafting here and there and have used Ravelry patterns in the past, but at no time have I ever thought, "Hm. I want to get the latest Hot Political Takes. I know! I'll go to the same place where I get my doily patterns!"

Fuck these people. Non-political, escapist shit should stay escapist and non-political.
But where can I get a custom knit “Trump 2020 - Damn Nigga This Shit Is Real” for the re-election it’s cold in January in DC?
 
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Wow people who break the law are afraid of being caught, what a fuckin' revelation, thanks Corpseface. I don't think they actually understood the point of Trump's "ICE raids will begin in 14 days" gambit, but that's not surprising. It's been three years and they haven't learned a goddamned thing, yet.
There are people who bring up fallacies like"Europeans came here illegally too" despite tremendous infighting on many tribes over land during and prior.
Law is law!
 
If there is a fight, it won't be the left that's still standing. Those 'deplorables', yeah, they're mainly from the South and the Midwest. You know, the ones who grew up in rural areas shooting off guns. And they're the source of most of your military veterans, the people who the left call tools of American imperialism and killers of brown people. The kind of people who don't have safe spaces and trigger warnings, only safeties for their triggers. Trust me, it won't be them that wind up bloodied on the floor.
In a straight-up fight of course the US Left would get its ass handed to it, but the one thing they're good at is manipulating other people. So if they have any sense at all they'll steer the conflict from "Left vs. Right" to Everyone else vs. "Nazis" (gradually shifting the definition as each piece of the right is hounded out of polite society), and perhaps half the military and the rest of the world will fall for it. TDS is almost universal in the rest of the Anglosphere because we read nothing but hit pieces on Trump and we don't have the experience of actually living in America to counteract all the bullshit, so their deceptions do work on people who are distant enough from the subject at hand.
 
Maybe I'm the dumb one but why do I still see "impeach Trump" this late into his term? I would assume that's pointless as he'd be leaving long before that could happen unless you believe Trump 2020 is happening which in itself could be avoided by creating a better alternative.

It's why the Dems have quietly put the "impeach" talk to bed as of late. 2020 is a referendum on if the public supports his removal, and if he wins reelection, any attempt to impeach is going to look less like vicious partisan brinkmanship and more like a flat-out coup since even the Dems know what a bad look it would be for them to immediately try and impeach a guy on grounds that they've been trying to whip up public support for for 3 years, and have failed miserably, except when it comes to turning the "impeach" fans into rabid "Impreeeeeeeeeeeeeeech!" fans, without increasing their actual numbers.

No matter what they say, it will come across as trying to nakedly undo an election because they didn't win. Even moreso than the whole Mueller probe was, that was pretty naked, but I'm talking full frontal nudity while jerking it if they go to "impeach".
 
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Actually reading the article, the academics quoted are an American studies professor, a Sociology professor, an associate History professor, and a full History professor. Both of the actual History professors defended Cortez as being motivated by the "powerful association" between concentration camps and whats happening, but they said they wouldn't have used the term concentration camp themselves.

Basically, they say she's wrong to use the term, but she did it for the right reasons. The other two, American studies (lol) and Sociology (double lol), went full "Drumph is basically Hitler" but given the relevance, or lack thereof, of their studies to the topic at hand, we can safely discard their opinions as not relevant as academics.

At the end of the day, the actual relevant academics say Cortez is wrong, but since she's doing it for the right reasons it's ok. Good article, Newsweek, I can see why you are now online only.
 
Given how the only body average americans think is more out of touch and into sniffing it's own butt than universities right now, is congress, I doubt that even a paper signed by five million academics that say " Nope, she was right, totes concentration camps" would affect a thing.

The left still does not get that the right votes for what gets results, not what looks/sounds good. They're using the wrong weapon, and can only think of turning up the volume when it doesn't work, like trying to take down the weeds in the yard by blasting them with EMP, and when someone suggests weed killer, they get expelled from the party for "promoting killing things" and they turn up the power on the emitter some more.....
 
In a straight-up fight of course the US Left would get its ass handed to it, but the one thing they're good at is manipulating other people. So if they have any sense at all they'll steer the conflict from "Left vs. Right" to Everyone else vs. "Nazis" (gradually shifting the definition as each piece of the right is hounded out of polite society), and perhaps half the military and the rest of the world will fall for it. TDS is almost universal in the rest of the Anglosphere because we read nothing but hit pieces on Trump and we don't have the experience of actually living in America to counteract all the bullshit, so their deceptions do work on people who are distant enough from the subject at hand.
It might be different now, but most vets and active duty I know LOATHE the Left. Sure, some of the officers and some faggot shamming lunchmeat Larry hates the right, but for the most part, everyone hates a Democrat.

You think we forgot that the Left spent 50 fucking years calling us baby-killers, welfare queens, and doing their best to renege on every agreement ever?
 
It might be different now, but most vets and active duty I know LOATHE the Left. Sure, some of the officers and some faggot shamming lunchmeat Larry hates the right, but for the most part, everyone hates a Democrat.

You think we forgot that the Left spent 50 fucking years calling us baby-killers, welfare queens, and doing their best to renege on every agreement ever?
That's been my point for a while. The cops too.

So they're going to somehow get the cops and military -- the people they routinely drag through the mud, smear as racists or psychotics -- to do their dirty work. Those cops and military.

I guess they figure you'll do anything for the chance to shoot some more people, regardless of what side you're on.
 
That's been my point for a while. The cops too.

So they're going to somehow get the cops and military -- the people they routinely drag through the mud, smear as racists or psychotics -- to do their dirty work. Those cops and military.

I guess they figure you'll do anything for the chance to shoot some more people, regardless of what side you're on.

I'd say it's more like they figure that most people--unlike them, of course--simply exhibit programmed responses to stimuli and don't really evaluate. Rather like NPCs, which is why the meme doubly infuriates them when applied to them.
 
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