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blinkblinkblink said:
What the fuck does this lady even want

r/asktransgender - I failed to pass as my AGAB, and I'm really upset right now. Where do I go from here?

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I feel silly for the title, but yeah.

I've been on HRT for a few years, and my passing has never really gotten better than 50/50 even when trying my utmost. A few months back I elected to lax up on how strict my "dress codes" were for myself, as I wasn't willing to further sacrifice my happiness in terms of liking makeup, cute clothes, etc, just to marginally increase my passing. I still chose to be careful regarding when I presented as femme/masc (Because oof owie ouch my safety), but I enjoyed myself a lot more overall.

At my last job I presented male, and very masculine, 100% of the time. I didn't really pass though, and received harassment from customers and my boss/one of my coworkers to the point I had to leave. I just got hired elsewhere, and I decided that I wouldn't bother telling people to call me one thing or another. I have a unisex name now, so I'd just go with whatever they thought I was and not argue. I didn't want people to know I was trans.

So, they all wound up referring to me as female. Conflicting feelings aside, I trucked on. Tonight I decided for the first time to wear some visible makeup to work. I figured, why not? Everyone thinks I'm a girl anyways, it might help me look more cis, and I've been having a really awful week, so getting dolled up might help me feel better.

Then my coworker wound up approaching me and asking quietly:

"Hey, so... I didn't wanna ask you before and like, be rude or embarrass you.. But are you transgender?"

Y'all I'm by myself on overnight right now and I'm just freaking a little bit. She seemed to be chill-ish, but I kinda stumbled out "kinda" and clarified I was AFAB, and she looked so confused and weirded out. I couldn't pass as a cis guy ora cis girl, and I just wanted to go through this job without being "The Transgender". I've been using the girl's restroom, and told this girl that I'm transmasc while wearing makeup. I know that's internalized.. I dunno, GNC-phobia? But the point is I know externally it makes me look weird or like I'm making shit up, wanting attention, or I don't even know what.

I just wanted to blend in and be left alone, I can't handle this again. I feel so gross and exposed. I don't know what to do from here or what's gonna happen, I'm just praying she doesn't tell anyone.

I mean... this gal is taking cross-sex hormones and is intentionally being ambiguous as hell, and identifies as ‘nonbinary’. A coworker politely tried to figure out what her deal is, and she’s ready to melt down because somebody correctly assessed that matters are afoot?
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She is probably going trough identity crisis. Since she finds comfort from presenting more feminine and doesn’t identify as a man, she is very likely a transtrender. I think she has in some level realized this but what ever reason isn’t ready to admit it. She probably did this originally for attention and/or rebellious reasons but is getting older and sick of being a weirdo. I guess she was unconsciously going to go “yeah I’m nonbianery-trans-masculine but I let everybody think I’m a cis girl for safety” to “I’m feminine identifying right now but just for practical job related reasons” till finally “I’m a normal woman”. Probably dropping HRT for some silly excuse like Milo’s afraid of needles. Slowly getting back being normal and getting on with her life without having to admit that she got swept away by trans fashion. Unfortunately this coworker made it known that other people have noticed something so now she has to make up her mind a lot faster and she is freaking out.
 
She seemed to be chill-ish, but I kinda stumbled out "kinda" and clarified I was AFAB, and she looked so confused and weirded out. I couldn't pass as a cis guy ora cis girl, and I just wanted to go through this job without being "The Transgender". I've been using the girl's restroom, and told this girl that I'm transmasc while wearing makeup.
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Uses troon language no normal person understands but doesn't want to be seen as the weird tranny.
 
Amber the Hedgehog said:
She is probably going trough identity crisis. Since she finds comfort from presenting more feminine and doesn’t identify as a man, she is very likely a transtrender.
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I thought this too when she said,
A few months back I elected to lax up on how strict my "dress codes" were for myself, as I wasn't willing to further sacrifice my happiness in terms of liking makeup, cute clothes, etc, just to marginally increase my passing. I still chose to be careful regarding when I presented as femme/masc (Because oof owie ouch my safety), but I enjoyed myself a lot more overall
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This is why the transtrender stuff on Reddit and Tumblr is dangerous. She's given up things she genuinely likes and taken hormones that have permanently messed her up, all to fit in to a trend and not be seen as an evil evil cis. She's mentally messed up because she is more comfortable being feminine, but the cult has told her that cis is bad and you'll only be happy as trans.
 
BigRuler said:
this its so bizarre
she could have just stayed away from the exceptional test injections and "blended in" as a regular girl just fine.
but no, instead she decides to take fucking test injections and change her name and "present masc" to the point where she ends up being an unrecognizable genderblob - and then she complains about sticking out?
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sounds like untreated BPD.
 
BigRuler said:
this its so bizarre
she could have just stayed away from the exceptional test injections and "blended in" as a regular girl just fine.
but no, instead she decides to take fucking test injections and change her name and "present masc" to the point where she ends up being an unrecognizable genderblob - and then she complains about sticking out?
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What does this queerest of all genderqueers look like, you ask?
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The story about the coworker genuinely believing she was a man is not at all believable. Either OP is lying, the coworker was just trying to validate her/seem woke, the coworker doesn't understand what "trans" means...something like that. There's no way it happened like OP said it did.
 
Amber the Hedgehog said:
I think this is also partly because they want to date but are scared. Many guys express their interest in very creepy way and that can be unnerving especially if a girl is in her early teens. So a guy who isn’t interested in girls at all can feel more comfortable to be around to a insecure girl. This can be more in theory as in “all good guy are gay” or “I would love to have gay bestie like in movies”, or she can actually know some and those are only guys she spends any time with. It’s not unlikely that she would have crush on a gay guy or just be jealous of gays, especially if she already spends time lustfully reading yaoi manga. They want that perfect romance and in modern transsaturated social media culture think that must mean they are trans. Becoming a trans can look like an improvement. At least in theory, you loose all creepy old men looking at your boobs and gain cute gay boyfriend that is into all those cool feminine hobbies that straight guys are too insecure to tryout. Plus extra oppression points, explanation to uncomfortable feelings and tons of positive enforcement at least from internet.
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eternal dog mongler said:
Yeah, I think this is exactly going on with the young women who decide to transition. You're entering puberty and your peer groups get all jumbled up, boys are creeping on you now aaaand just why not decide to idolize weird anime dudes and become the anime dude because yaoi relationships are written in an extremely weird way where their relationships are based on forbidden attraction but are deeply fulfilling emotional relationships.
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You guys have touched on something interesting here, and it's something I've been wondering about with the MTFs. Blanchard suggests a strict dichotomy between HSTS and AGP, but after stalking many reddit troons I'm starting to think there's a third type who mirror the above behavior but with qt anime catgirl nyaa~ instead of bishie ukes. I think a bunch of dudes are discovering that theyre expected to be sexually aggressive in order to have romantic relationships, realizing that they are not equipped with the social skills or confidence to behave in this way, and idealizing the female role as the passive/pursued partner. This collides with the party line that trans women are real women and they realize that being the anime gf is not only possible, but woke, and all it takes from there is some asspats on reddit and you have a full fledged troon. It would also explain some of the outrage over the "transbians are just extreme transvestites" because some of these dudes will genuinely not be aroused by wearing women's clothing; they just want to feel pretty and desired and have their shyness be perceived as cute but due to Gender your options are soyboy or troon. Kind of sad but they post really funny stuff online so maybe it's a net good.
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I've seen this before and I'm convinced it's the fucking rosetta stone of troonery. The whole paradigm is laid out right there and someone smarter than me needs to go through this thing with their They Live sunglasses on

Potatis Salad said:
What does this queerest of all genderqueers look like, you ask?
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The story about the coworker genuinely believing she was a man is not at all believable. Either OP is lying, the coworker was just trying to validate her/seem woke, the coworker doesn't understand what "trans" means...something like that. There's no way it happened like OP said it did.
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wow she's super cute
 
dingle said:
I think a bunch of dudes are discovering that theyre expected to be sexually aggressive in order to have romantic relationships, realizing that they are not equipped with the social skills or confidence to behave in this way, and idealizing the female role as the passive/pursued partner. This collides with the party line that trans women are real women and they realize that being the anime gf is not only possible, but woke, and all it takes from there is some asspats on reddit and you have a full fledged troon.
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That's just autogynephilia with extra steps: autogynephilia is defined as "love of oneself as a woman" - Blanchard 1989
 
blinkblinkblink said:
That's just autogynephilia with extra steps: autogynephilia is defined as "love of oneself as a woman" - Blanchard 1989
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I was under the impression that an erotic target mislocation was a prerequisite here, though. If my reading is correct, this isn't wanting to be the ideal girl, it's wanting to be in the ideal relationship (where adult male behaviors are not required or desirable) interacting with a false consciousness re: gender
 
Amber the Hedgehog said:
She is probably going trough identity crisis. Since she finds comfort from presenting more feminine and doesn’t identify as a man, she is very likely a transtrender. I think she has in some level realized this but what ever reason isn’t ready to admit it. She probably did this originally for attention and/or rebellious reasons but is getting older and sick of being a weirdo. I guess she was unconsciously going to go “yeah I’m nonbianery-trans-masculine but I let everybody think I’m a cis girl for safety” to “I’m feminine identifying right now but just for practical job related reasons” till finally “I’m a normal woman”. Probably dropping HRT for some silly excuse like Milo’s afraid of needles. Slowly getting back being normal and getting on with her life without having to admit that she got swept away by trans fashion. Unfortunately this coworker made it known that other people have noticed something so now she has to make up her mind a lot faster and she is freaking out.
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Not only that but I've also noticed that there are a lot more trenders who identify as "non-binary" doing HRT because it's trendy. Hell if you go on /r/transdiy you can find multiple guides on how to do HRT if you're non-binary.

That's the worrying part, there are troons who want everyone to be on HRT and will act like it's some sick party drug to do.
 
Nykysnottrans said:
In the second documentary (which unfortunately isn't online yet, so I can't link to it though I have seen it myself) Marci Bowers said that she cuts through the scar tissue on top to get to the suspensory ligament in order to then "prolapse" the clitoris (this is my term BTW, not the term she uses, she uses the term "release"). If you look at this picture, you can see that the ischiocavernosus muscle and the bulbospongiosus reaches down and around the clitoris and urethra on both sides. I wondered whether anything affecting the suspensory ligament would affect these nearby muscles. BTW, any trannies reading along, this is why your neovag is nothing like a real vagina and why your repositioned glans is nothing like a real clitoris. This is how complex a real vagina is, all these muscles come into play. You think you're getting a vagina because you don't know anatomy.
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You're telling me that a section of your sigmoid colon grafted into your groin might not be like the real thing?

And yes Dr. Bower's FGM reversal procedure could probably cause urinary incontinence. It's basically the same thing as first stage metoidoplasty without urethral extension, so I would not expect the complication rate to be high.

The urethral extension is where most of the complications begin because they've gotta get that tissue from somewhere (could be your vagina, could be your mouth, could even be your colon because Dr. Ting is doing exciting new surgeries these days.) Incontinence or a weird urine flow that makes you unable to fully empty your bladder are common complications and that's even if the surgeon doesn't somehow manage to reroute your urethra into your colon.
 
blinkblinkblink said:
That's just autogynephilia with extra steps: autogynephilia is defined as "love of oneself as a woman" - Blanchard 1989
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But the types dingle is refering to don't 'love' themselves as a woman, it's just a mating strategy they've adopted (adapted) to.
I've noticed these types as well, they're sad beta male incels that will probably never get laid, and a few have realised this and have hit upon the idea of trooning out, and tbh it's not a bad strategy given the current zeitgeist. They seem distinct from the gay troons and the crossdressing kink types.
 
Sinners Sandwich said:
And then they are complaining on Tumblr about how "phallocentric" , (yes, they use this term) sex crazed and creepy gay men are.
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How Real, True men react to gay men hooking up with each other is exactly how I'd imagine homophobic straight women to react. Actually, I heard exactly the same kind of shit from my father's church lady fourth wife.

Barabbas said:
But the types dingle is refering to don't 'love' themselves as a woman, it's just a mating strategy they've adopted (adapted) to.
I've noticed these types as well, they're sad beta male incels that will probably never get laid, and a few have realised this and have hit upon the idea of trooning out, and tbh it's not a bad strategy given the current zeitgeist. They seem distinct from the gay troons and the crossdressing kink types.
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It's a bad strategy in the sense that it still won't get them laid. The main difference in how incel soyboys are treated and transcel Real, True women are treated is that people are scared shitless of pissing the latter off. But most of these guys aren't getting more action after trooning out than before. There are some opportunities within trans communities (I've heard that FTMs and female enbies tend to get passed around the Real, True women in trans groups and of course there's the hilarious and horrifying trend of transcels hooking up with each other), but you actually have to leave the house to get that kind of action.
 
dingle said:
holy fuck, the frogs are developing eggs in their testes? this is the future lads--males and females can leave each other alone and reproduce amongst themselves. the mpreg people on deviantart were right all along
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This isn't going to help them if it only works for frogs.

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Yes, Alex Jones is right about that, he's using imprecise language but endocrine disruptors have been fucking up amphibian sexual development for a while now. There is speculation that the same mechanism is responsible for sperm count drops and lower T levels in men.
 
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