Captain Marvel - Literally, from "her" to "hero"

[Remove Goat]

niggas just fuck already

 

[howyadoin]

I'm not too angry (or even angry at all) about Captain Marvel being a financial success. I just consider the story to be good but the delivery (especially Brie's character) fell short.

However, I do feel bad for the opposing side of the Captain Marvel "culture war" because it's as if they've lost the battle, thus confirming the narrative that they're trolls.

 

[MI 814]

Dude I don't know what the fuck to tell you at this point. This will have been like the 12th or so time you've used the phrase "being obtuse!" to describe me laughing for a bunch of dorks thinking they were actually going to leave enough Rotten Tomatoes reviews to sink the thing and have since combating me "being obtuse!" (seriously is that a filter for something? it's such an odd word to describe the back and forth and you seem compelled to use that specific word...) with literally every theory and counterpoint that doesn't involve "normies don't care about Culture War" and don't have a particularly high bar set for summer blockbusters.


Like even a lot of this thread who claimed they had no interest in it... went and saw it so they could come back and say how mediocre it is. The people who are actively pissed off at the thing went and saw it, weeks out when they could have just read what happened and skipped it knowing nothing of value was in it for Endgame. They saw it, and you can't comprehend that people who aren't pissed off at Larson also went and saw it?

Which is it? It didn't actually do well, it did ok but only because of Endgame, it did undeniably well but because the audiences were idiots who didn't know what they were getting?

Between your repeated insistence I come in and "defend" the billion dollar movie, that weird ass PM you sent before, and your alternating explanations for why this didn't tank, I have no idea how you think you're coming across as anything except bothered by the fact that a film that wouldn't have possibly bombed didn't bomb. I'm flabbergasted at how you think I'm trying to pull one over on you or something, the movie was one in a long line of products that are almost guaranteed money makers and there's no way this wasn't going to do as well.

The fact that people were emotionally gambling on it to in order to prove a point to those Blue Checkmarks is amusing to me. Like what else do you expect me to say?

How do you know most of them actually caved in and saw it? Mind backing that up for me? I didn't, I only saw a camrip.

But lol, you are desperate to try and win this aren't ya. And I sent that PM because I wanted to see if you were ask much of a bitch behind the scenes are you are right now. What is it with the weird anti-anti-sjw types like you aggressively defending mediocrity because you are deep down somewhat left wing and can't stand seeing a movie starring a woman getting hated on for being shit. Or you are just a moronic Marvel comics fanboy with a shit taste in stories.

And no shit normies who were invested in the MCU saw it, they saw half of the fucking characters get killed in Infinity War and Nick Fury was paging her, no shit a good chunk of them went to see it. But does this mean her sequel will be as successful? That's the real test to see if the normies truly don't care about the Culture War. And also most of the time I am just responding to your posts because they are so seething with rage towards the "trolls" who attacked that poor poor movie staring an unlikeable bitch with a shit plot and special effects, and you remind me of all the weirdo anti-anti-sjws whom I've interacted with on Discord who talk just like you who are more flabbergasted than the haters; because people actually hoped the movie would fail because of it's effect this could have in the MCU going forward.

You actually saw the movie right? You realise what garbage you are defending?

At the end of the day, these movies are going to eventually decline and shoving identity politics into it is a good way to lose momentum. That and their inconsistent tone, boring villains, bad special effects, lame cinematography, and now blatant identity politics, will not do these movies any favours in the long run. And it's all thanks to fanboys like you.

 

[MI 814]

I'm not too angry (or even angry at all) about Captain Marvel being a financial success. I just consider the story to be good but the delivery (especially Brie's character) fell short.

However, I do feel bad for the opposing side of the Captain Marvel "culture war" because it's as if they've lost the battle, thus confirming the narrative that they're trolls.

Says the guy with a She-Ra avatar.

 

[AnAspieWithAVengeance]

I went and saw it in France and didn't mind it, though after watching Patrick Williams's essay on the MCU, it's just a bigger confirmation in how bland these films really are, and how Post Endgame is the true test of these films. Sadly though I think they will be around for a while before truly people really get bored of them.

 

[MI 814]

I went and saw it in France and didn't mind it, though after watching Patrick Williams's essay on the MCU, it's just a bigger confirmation in how bland these films really are, and how Post Endgame is the true test of these films. Sadly though I think they will be around for a while before truly people really get bored of them.

It really depends on how fun they are going forward. I for one will see Spider-Man Far From Home (but only because of Stan Lee), and probably Doctor Strange 2 and GoTG Vol. 3, but after that I dunno. I have a bad feeling about Fantastic Four and X-Men.

 

[howyadoin]

Says the guy with a She-Ra avatar.

lol I only watched the first two episodes and quit.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

I didn't, I only saw a camrip.

Still couldn't help yourself, though.

 

[MI 814]

Still couldn't help yourself, though.

Didn't give them money though. And I did the same for GB2016, sometimes you wanna see how much of a trainwreck it is.

I mean if you people are gonna bitch that "YOU WENT AND SAW IT ANYWAY YOU HYPOCRITE", the reason they are hypocrites is because they gave money to the studios to make more of this trash. But if you see it via other methods you cancel that out. Unless you're one of those weirdos that think piracy is the same as giving money to the studios. But then again...

...because this is gonna go on forever, it's obvious there isn't much else to talk about so we have resorted to the blame game on the movie making nearly a billion dollars. Truth of the matter is the goodwill of the MCU saved what was otherwise a forgettable mediocre movie from making a measly $500mil, and instead nearly $1bil.

Just, keep in mind we told you so in a few years time. But comic book fans are basically worse than Manga fans in how stupid they are so hah.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

But comic book fans are basically worse than Manga fans in how stupid they are so hah.

We agree on that at least.

 

[MI 814]

We agree on that at least.

Gotta love substanceless one liner responses. Reminds me of Vito Gesualdi going "Why?" When people called him out for being a Epic Games shill.

 

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

How do you know most of them actually caved in and saw it? Mind backing that up for me? I didn't, I only saw a camrip.

But lol, you are desperate to try and win this aren't ya. And I sent that PM because I wanted to see if you were ask much of a bitch behind the scenes are you are right now. What is it with the weird anti-anti-sjw types like you aggressively defending mediocrity because you are deep down somewhat left wing and can't stand seeing a movie starring a woman getting hated on for being shit. Or you are just a moronic Marvel comics fanboy with a shit taste in stories.

And no shit normies who were invested in the MCU saw it, they saw half of the fucking characters get killed in Infinity War and Nick Fury was paging her, no shit a good chunk of them went to see it. But does this mean her sequel will be as successful? That's the real test to see if the normies truly don't care about the Culture War. And also most of the time I am just responding to your posts because they are so seething with rage towards the "trolls" who attacked that poor poor movie staring an unlikeable bitch with a shit plot and special effects, and you remind me of all the weirdo anti-anti-sjws whom I've interacted with on Discord who talk just like you who are more flabbergasted than the haters; because people actually hoped the movie would fail because of it's effect this could have in the MCU going forward.

You actually saw the movie right? You realise what garbage you are defending?

At the end of the day, these movies are going to eventually decline and shoving identity politics into it is a good way to lose momentum. That and their inconsistent tone, boring villains, bad special effects, lame cinematography, and now blatant identity politics, will not do these movies any favours in the long run. And it's all thanks to fanboys like you.

Holy shit, get madder.

 

[ZehnBoat]

niggas just fuck already

if crackas and boomer aren't hate fucking each other by page 100 then close the thread

 

[Крыса]

Isn't an anti-anti-SJW just an SJW or am I being way too optimistic about the logic of it all ?

 

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

Isn't an anti-anti-SJW just an SJW or am I being way too optimistic about the logic of it all ?

I think the implication is that I'm sympathizing with SJWs, but am not an SJW outright? like less that I believe in Blue Checkmark shit but am mad at trolling?

He's all over the place with specifics but that seems to be the gist of it.

 

[Крыса]

I think the implication is that I'm sympathizing with SJWs, but am not an SJW outright? like less that I believe in Blue Checkmark shit but am mad at trolling?

He's all over the place with specifics but that seems to be the gist of it.

Yeah that's what i thought too but does that make him an anti-anti-anti-SJW then ? Am I an anti-anti-anti-anti-SJW for pointing that out ? Where does it stop ? This is terrifying !

 

[Absolutego]

Dude I don't know what the fuck to tell you at this point. This will have been like the 12th or so time you've used the phrase "being obtuse!" to describe me laughing for a bunch of dorks thinking they were actually going to leave enough Rotten Tomatoes reviews to sink the thing and have since combating me "being obtuse!" (seriously is that a filter for something? it's such an odd word to describe the back and forth and you seem compelled to use that specific word...) with literally every theory and counterpoint that doesn't involve "normies don't care about Culture War" and don't have a particularly high bar set for summer blockbusters.


Like even a lot of this thread who claimed they had no interest in it... went and saw it so they could come back and say how mediocre it is. The people who are actively pissed off at the thing went and saw it, weeks out when they could have just read what happened and skipped it knowing nothing of value was in it for Endgame. They saw it, and you can't comprehend that people who aren't pissed off at Larson also went and saw it?

Which is it? It didn't actually do well, it did ok but only because of Endgame, it did undeniably well but because the audiences were idiots who didn't know what they were getting?

Between your repeated insistence I come in and "defend" the billion dollar movie, that weird ass PM you sent before, and your alternating explanations for why this didn't tank, I have no idea how you think you're coming across as anything except bothered by the fact that a film that wouldn't have possibly bombed didn't bomb. I'm flabbergasted at how you think I'm trying to pull one over on you or something, the movie was one in a long line of products that are almost guaranteed money makers and there's no way this wasn't going to do as well.

The fact that people were emotionally gambling on it to in order to prove a point to those Blue Checkmarks is amusing to me. Like what else do you expect me to say?

The anti-fandom for Captain Marvel is rapidly becoming more embarrassing than the Disney shills. I found the marketing cynical/embarrassing but people seem to be really invested in this movie outright failing or, at least, succeeding for reasons that somehow invalidate its success.

It looked like another boring Marvel origin story, and the marketing was dumb, so I didn't see it. Audience reactions more-or-less confirmed my initial assumptions, so I still haven't seen it. Apparently the extent of its feminism is a bad cockpit joke and No Doubt's "Just a Girl" blaring over one of the climactic fights. I marvel (lol) at the fact that anyone is having a reaction to its success beyond "man the Marvel brand is strong with normies" and "I can't wait for Endgame to come out so I can stop caring about Marvel movies". Anyone treating Captain Marvel as a super important movie, even within the Avengers universe, whether it's because they love it or hate it, is just using their cheap entertainment as a culture war proxy to keep acting out their online crusade.

 

[One Man Bland]

I went and saw it in France and didn't mind it, though after watching Patrick Williams's essay on the MCU, it's just a bigger confirmation in how bland these films really are, and how Post Endgame is the true test of these films. Sadly though I think they will be around for a while before truly people really get bored of them.

I kinda get the feeling that the MCU will got the way of the Tramsformers franchise where their domestic pull will continue to dwindle post-Endgame (from what I’ve seen from normies they’ve only held out this long because they wanna see where all their favorite characters/actors end up) but the forgein market will keep making up the difference so movies will keep being made, even when people in the states see posters for Guardians of the Galaxy 5 and say “Are they STILL making those movies?”. Hell, looking at CM’s box office results compared to Transformers films when theirs domestic to forgein profit ratio really started to show a gap the Marvel films are certainly getting there.

It’ll certainly be interesting to see what the hell the MCU does to keep the gravy train going at least. They still have a few big pulls like Spider-Man and GotG, but unless they intend some of the more popular secondary characters films it just kinda seems like everyone else coming up on the roster are the ones general audiences seem lukewarm towards at best. Especially considering films like CM where a lot of people watched it because “there might be stuff about Endgame in it” or Black Panther where it was apparently panned in China despite the strong opening weekend because China’s pretty racist Disney apparently fudged the Chinese promotional material for the film about the number of black characters because Disney thought Chinese audiences wouldn’t see it otherwise.

 

[AnAspieWithAVengeance]

It really depends on how fun they are going forward. I for one will see Spider-Man Far From Home (but only because of Stan Lee), and probably Doctor Strange 2 and GoTG Vol. 3, but after that I dunno. I have a bad feeling about Fantastic Four and X-Men.

F4 & XMen could go either way. The Fox Canon whether you liked it or not left a lasting impression on audiences, in particular Wolverine. It'll be hard to top it even if those films weren't the best (Saying that despite X2 being one of my favourite films).

For me, I'm definitely up for Spidy FFH and after that It's up in the air. I'll take it like I've always have and judge it film by film. I'll likely pass on Doctor Strange 2 because I never bothered with 1. BP2 is a likely as it the third Guardians film. Aside from that I'm not sure. Black Widow depends on the story, The Eternals I'm not bothered about (unless it's X Men in disguise), and I doubt Ant Man 3 is getting made. If it does, it'll feel more like a limb to the finish line if anything.

I kinda get the feeling that the MCU will got the way of the Tramsformers franchise where their domestic pull will continue to dwindle post-Endgame (from what I’ve seen from normies they’ve only held out this long because they wanna see where all their favorite characters/actors end up) but the forgein market will keep making up the difference so movies will keep being made, even when people in the states see posters for Guardians of the Galaxy 5 and say “Are they STILL making those movies?”. Hell, looking at CM’s box office results compared to Transformers films when theirs domestic to forgein profit ratio really started to show a gap the Marvel films are certainly getting there.

It’ll certainly be interesting to see what the hell the MCU does to keep the gravy train going at least. They still have a few big pulls like Spider-Man and GotG, but unless they intend some of the more popular secondary characters films it just kinda seems like everyone else coming up on the roster are the ones general audiences seem lukewarm towards at best. Especially considering films like CM where a lot of people watched it because “there might be stuff about Endgame in it” or Black Panther where it was apparently panned in China despite the strong opening weekend because China’s pretty racist Disney apparently fudged the Chinese promotional material for the film about the number of black characters because Disney thought Chinese audiences wouldn’t see it otherwise.

It's an interesting point. I'm for sure there's an endpoint as Feige knows deep down he can't do this forever. The question is when and what will be the cause? Endgame will be the end for a lot of fans, so expect losses in some form of fashion. Disney+ can only do so much for the MCU brand and will hopefully do plenty more where Netflix and the other networks failed to do. Maybe it's because Feige has more control than he did with Agents of Shield and the Netflix shows. Shame because those shows were tonally very different and made the MCU more in depth and interesting to watch.

 

[BrunoMattei]

E;R came back, guess which movie he decided to review:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LbalOCu5Xqc
1:11 he talks about not knowing where to even start checking the comics. I guess rebooting a character 8 times will do that.

As an aside, YT definitely shadowbanned E R. I'm subbed and didn't realize he uploaded this until I looked at this thread.