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Listen guys, I'm all for dogging on DSP (especially if it's stuff he publicly brings up) but it always feels weird when people start looking into relatives, friends etc and digging up stuff on them. Sure I'll watch him rage over games or insult people in chat, or talk about things with authority that he has no idea about. That's fun and a break from my daily life. I don't want or need to know about Kat's personal history or who's died in Phil's family or what issues these people are going through.

DSP is enough of an entertaining TV show as it is. You can already call him out and hang him by the balls on stuff he's said or done while streaming. Looking behind the curtain, pozloading my neghole, etc is a bit too much for me. Do you, but for me I need to draw a line. Plus it just reinforces Phil's narrative that "peepul are out to get me d00d!!11" when people directly do stuff to Phil or bring up stuff he hasn't talked about. I get people want to feel like part of the show, and it's not illegal to search for public info or email companies or do chargebacks..but it's kind of a bad look. That's just me tho. I prefer kicking back and watching DSP do goofy stuff on his own and then rage about it.
I think Kat's past was acceptable because he lied about stuff surrounding her, and also made it a point to say she was "undoxxable". That kind of made it a challenge. To me anyway.
 
Listen guys, I'm all for dogging on DSP (especially if it's stuff he publicly brings up) but it always feels weird when people start looking into relatives, friends etc and digging up stuff on them. Sure I'll watch him rage over games or insult people in chat, or talk about things with authority that he has no idea about. That's fun and a break from my daily life. I don't want or need to know about Kat's personal history or who's died in Phil's family or what issues these people are going through.

DSP is enough of an entertaining TV show as it is. You can already call him out and hang him by the balls on stuff he's said or done while streaming. Looking behind the curtain, pozloading my neghole, etc is a bit too much for me. Do you, but for me I need to draw a line. Plus it just reinforces Phil's narrative that "peepul are out to get me d00d!!11" when people directly do stuff to Phil or bring up stuff he hasn't talked about. I get people want to feel like part of the show, and it's not illegal to search for public info or email companies or do chargebacks..but it's kind of a bad look. That's just me tho. I prefer kicking back and watching DSP do goofy stuff on his own and then rage about it.
The info is out there and nothing hinders one from taking it. It's not as some gay ops needed to break into NSA headquarters central computer to goldmine. Also, if something reinforces or adds to Dave's paranoia, then all the better. I understand that there are lines you think that are better left alone crossing. However Dave is somebody who crosses lines every effin day, again and again and again. So I'd say it's only fair if his "adversaries" doing it all the same. Real talk.
 
Listen guys, I'm all for dogging on DSP (especially if it's stuff he publicly brings up) but it always feels weird when people start looking into relatives, friends etc and digging up stuff on them. Sure I'll watch him rage over games or insult people in chat, or talk about things with authority that he has no idea about. That's fun and a break from my daily life. I don't want or need to know about Kat's personal history or who's died in Phil's family or what issues these people are going through.

DSP is enough of an entertaining TV show as it is. You can already call him out and hang him by the balls on stuff he's said or done while streaming. Looking behind the curtain, pozloading my neghole, etc is a bit too much for me. Do you, but for me I need to draw a line. Plus it just reinforces Phil's narrative that "peepul are out to get me d00d!!11" when people directly do stuff to Phil or bring up stuff he hasn't talked about. I get people want to feel like part of the show, and it's not illegal to search for public info or email companies or do chargebacks..but it's kind of a bad look. That's just me tho. I prefer kicking back and watching DSP do goofy stuff on his own and then rage about it.

This sentiment came up when Kat's history with mental health services was discovered. I tried to articulate my thoughts in a post in the "Kat Speculation" thread:

I think the problem comes down to this: Phil is a career liar, he leaves information ambiguous, and deliberately obscures what he's revealed in the past. This gives people a mystery to solve. It's enticing, it appeals to the deep human desire to discover truth. It's what leads Windows-using, computer illiterate fools like myself to dig through King County Property Tax records. Worse for Phil, there are even those that will take this desire to uncover his enticing secrets to humiliate him. "Using my own abilities, I've pulled down your facade, and exposed you for what you are".

I don't think Kat here is the "target". She's merely a means to an end. Phil has revealed enough of Kat's background to entice, but not enough to satiate curiosity. This exposure is the natural conclusion.

Phil's enticed the "Detractors" with glimpses into Kat's background, and even dared them to uncover more, as @ReentryPhantom pointed out. I do think it's a mistake to bring up those connected to Phil that have nothing to do with his Lolcowdom. For lack of a better word, I would call these people "civilians". The problem would be how one could know they're "civilians" without checking ?

The neghole pozzing is a separate issue from the introduction of "civilians". The two who are active, rather than just passive observation. However, the former is strongly discouraged, while the latter may be more of a grey, "ethical" issue, if that makes sense.
 
The info is out there and nothing hinders one from taking it. It's not as some gay ops needed to break into NSA headquarters central computer to goldmine. Also, if something reinforces or adds to Dave's paranoia, then all the better. I understand that there are lines you think that are better left alone crossing. However Dave is somebody who crosses lines every effin day, again and again and again. So I'd say it's only fair if his "adversaries" doing it all the same. Real talk.

True. It's up to each person how far down the rabbit hole they want to go. Personally I'm fine with busting on DSP, but I try to leave Phil Burnell the person alone. Though Phil is own worst enemy and a lot of the time brings up personal shit, which just entices people to dig deeper or fight a little dirty. I get it but I don't always think payback is the best answer. Especially when DSP just goes into victim mode and rallies his troops again. SoK was a huge "victory" for DSP and his fans. For someone like me I just want him to get hit with a heavy dose of reality, a nice slice of humble pie. I want his internet privileges taken away and he can't have it back until he man's up and gets a job lol
 
True. It's up to each person how far down the rabbit hole they want to go. Personally I'm fine with busting on DSP, but I try to leave Phil Burnell the person alone. Though Phil is own worst enemy and a lot of the time brings up personal shit, which just entices people to dig deeper or fight a little dirty. I get it but I don't always think payback is the best answer. Especially when DSP just goes into victim mode and rallies his troops again. SoK was a huge "victory" for DSP and his fans. For someone like me I just want him to get hit with a heavy dose of reality, a nice slice of humble pie. I want his internet privileges taken away and he can't have it back until he man's up and gets a job lol

Every amazing piece of DSP history has been created by him. A few examples are his "Emergency" stream, the fake engagement ring humiliation, wolverine toy rant, "click the ads", getting screwed by his tax attorney, I could go on and on. DSP needs no intervention into destroying his own life, he's spectacularly good at it. That's why we all point and laugh at his misfortune. The SoK wasn't a "victory" for DSP, but it was an embarrassment to anyone who liked their content. Ultimately it's best to laugh at him, I've never seen a better beggar than DSP. Also DSP is a pollock not Italian, I don't know why it annoys me so much when people say it but it does.

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"Gimme your money dood, I need to pay muh taxes! I can't pay for my two houses and this horse! My parents are dying..... of OLD AGE!" DSP
 
Listen guys, I'm all for dogging on DSP (especially if it's stuff he publicly brings up) but it always feels weird when people start looking into relatives, friends etc and digging up stuff on them. Sure I'll watch him rage over games or insult people in chat, or talk about things with authority that he has no idea about. That's fun and a break from my daily life. I don't want or need to know about Kat's personal history or who's died in Phil's family or what issues these people are going through.

DSP is enough of an entertaining TV show as it is. You can already call him out and hang him by the balls on stuff he's said or done while streaming.

I mostly agree with this, especially the last part. Someone a few pages ago made a good point after someone said Phil's cousin would be a huge treasure trove of information. It was something to the effect of "I bet we'll finally be able to learn that Phil is lazy and selfish."

With some cows, you have to actively dig and look into their history for material. IMO, Phil, like always, is his own biggest detractor and airs his dirty laundry for everyone. His history of being a cow is also already pretty well documented, again, largely by Phil. We even have a general idea of his "competitive" fighting history days.

Looking into Kat was one thing because she was an actual unknown and people were curious about why she was with Phil, not to mention Phil did issue a challenge. Part of that was even just to confirm whether Kat was real in the first place. With Phil though, eh, I don't doubt there's probably some stories, but I bet they're all in the same vein of "Phil did something lazy/selfish." I don't think young Phil was nearly as much of a hermit, but it doesn't sound like he was exactly the king of popularity like he tries to claim. I honestly think present day Phil and past Phil aren't particularly different.

If someone really finds something juicy on him, eh, sure, post it. But, so far it feels like the most things have amounted to is "Phil has family members." Maybe if Phil wasn't such a hermit there would be more, but with extended family members especially I can't imagine there's too much history or even general Phil interaction.
 
I mostly agree with this, especially the last part. Someone a few pages ago made a good point after someone said Phil's cousin would be a huge treasure trove of information. It was something to the effect of "I bet we'll finally be able to learn that Phil is lazy and selfish."
From what I read on that and to reiterate what others might have said. Finding his cousin and getting any sort of information would only be useful if she was going to just give some insight on his younger years on maybe how his parents treated him or other things like that. Even then any information obtained should be taken with a grain of salt considering that she probably does not think about him that often anymore and memory, even in the healthiest of individuals, can still be unreliable.

I mean we already know much about his older life and what kind of person he really is.

Or she could just basically ask "Why the fuck is there a bunch of weird people obsessed with my cousin? Whatever the fuck he got himself into, I want no part of it."
 
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Haven't caught much of the stream, but I did see that when he finished Sekiro, he was at ~$400 in tips. When I checked on COD:MW, he was at like $450. Now he's apparently around $470. It's fucking fascinating how little he typically makes during actual gameplay.
 
Haven't caught much of the stream, but I did see that when he finished Sekiro, he was at ~$400 in tips. When I checked on COD:MW, he was at like $450. Now he's apparently around $470. It's fucking fascinating how little he typically makes during actual gameplay.

He just said his Muxy read that he has $1300 in tips. Claims he is frustated at how annoying the trolls are by inflating his tips total.

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Keeps leaning over inbetween ROUNDS in Streetfighter to see if new tips are coming in. Greed is massively strong.
 
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