The Outer Worlds becomes Epic exclusive - Because of fucking course it did

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Namesarehardtocomeupwith said:
I mean, the developer can choose whoever publish their game, if they think steam take too much of a cut and wanted to move elsewhere then all the power to them.
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The problem occurs it's not like with GoG who just went to publishers and said "Hey, maybe wanna give our store a chance?", it's more the fact that Epic threw all this money at the publishers and said "Publish your shit in our store for a year fuckers." An this pretty much makes 'em seem something that the mafia does
 
The tired cat said:
The problem occurs it's not like with GoG who just went to publishers and said "Hey, maybe wanna give our store a chance?", it's more the fact that Epic threw all this money at the publishers and said "Publish your shit in our store for a year fuckers." An this pretty much makes 'em seem something that the mafia does
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Right? It comes off more like they think they can buy their way into the the market without actually putting in the effort and building the goodwill with the consumers.

Its arrogant as fuck.
 
VaporwareFaggot said:
Right? It comes off more like they think they can buy their way into the the market without actually putting in the effort and building the goodwill with the consumers.

Its arrogant as fuck.
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And the best (worst) part is that any moron can tell you why doing this is a bad idea, you're not gonna pry people off of Steam when it's painfully obvious that they're better platform, all you're doing is wasting money by attempting to keep Steam's audience on EGS for the immediate future.

The second that stream of exclusives stops, people are gonna go back to Steam without a second thought because the more money you've spent buying exclusives the less money spent on developing your store's features, and thus not really giving people any reason to stay on any longer than they should.

And all of this is assuming the exclusives you're buying are actually bringing in enough money.
 
Visitor said:
- how many of you have discord?
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If there was a decent, popular alternative to the dying cancer that is Skype, then I would move away from Discord. Sure, there is Mumble, Ventrilo, and Teamspeak among some others. But they aren't nearly as widely used.

Visitor said:
- How many of you own a smartphone?
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Easy to avoid this, just use a flip phone or a 'feature phone', as some call it.

Visitor said:
- How many of you run windows 10?

(Gonna add in this one because it's more-or-less related)

I really do want to know what OS all of you are running who shit on Epic for being spyware. I seriously doubt you're all on windows 7 or linux. The thing is I agree with you that it's bad, but it's exceptional to go after a video game company for spying on you after you already allowed Microsoft, Google and Valve to do the same thing all this time. It just comes across as a completely insincere concern.
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Nice try there, slick. While I know Linux (and it's multitude of distros) are capable of gaming, it's not ideal or that stable sometimes, even with WINE and Proton. Maybe eventually Steam with Proton will be a bigger thing, but good luck getting any support for games outside when a developer/publisher chooses to port over or make games for Linux.

Windows 7? Are you joking? As much as I like Windows 7, and as much as it doesn't really spy on you, I would rather have security updates for at least the next decade. People can hold onto W7 all they want, but if they want better security, they'll have to upgrade or move to something else.

And MacOS? Not even really that much of a contender, despite the occasional support.

Visitor said:
- How many of you have a facebook account?
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You got me a little bit on that one, though there are more private social networks than FB. But, I will bring up the whole 'But they aren't nearly as widely used.' card once again.
 
"Why are so many people angry that they're being forced to use a piece of shit launcher after being lied to where these games where going, getting pulled last minute by a company that favors publishers and not consumers when the PC market never had to deal with exclusivity before?"

Really activates those almonds. I mean it's so hard to figure out guys, I don't know.
 
What really pisses me off is aside from using Metro Exodus as an excuse of how "cool" the Epic Store is, ignoring that the game sold well because a good number of fans didnt wanna pirate it or dont own consoles, theres literally nothing about the store itself that helps. You can bet your lunch only reason they had the search bar added is cause off "here ya go ya sheep. Now shut up!" They clearly dont give a rats ass about perfecting their store front, hell the games on said store price wise arent different from steams prices (big fucking shocker), so really only thing they have is people who arent console owners an desperate to play a game from their fav devs and people who dont wanna pirate games.
 
Am I the only guy concerned about China being the the ambitious authoritarian project in human history?

It seems like doing more to empower these guys now that we have the information is simply a bad idea.

Even without the facts about stolen technology and the fact that Epic's launcher is basically malware, this seems like a bad idea.
 
The tired cat said:
The problem occurs it's not like with GoG who just went to publishers and said "Hey, maybe wanna give our store a chance?", it's more the fact that Epic threw all this money at the publishers and said "Publish your shit in our store for a year fuckers." An this pretty much makes 'em seem something that the mafia does
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Maybe GoG's strategy isn't working to begin with?

I personally disagree with @Watcher about their problems being in lack of new legacy titles, I think the problem is that they don't have enough of an enticement to the dev side of things. If they view this as a pseudo-charity side project to "give back" to the community, then fair enough, but I don't think it will make money in competition with TWO game stores.

Also keep in mind that no one markets their legacy titles to begin with, and marketing matters when it comes to the gaming market.

Also lmao at the Mafia reference, I don't see legbreakers going into dev studios and threatening people. :story:
 
neural said:
Maybe GoG's strategy isn't working to begin with?

I personally disagree with @Watcher about their problems being in lack of new legacy titles, I think the problem is that they don't have enough of an enticement to the dev side of things. If they view this as a pseudo-charity side project to "give back" to the community, then fair enough, but I don't think it will make money in competition with TWO game stores.

Also keep in mind that no one markets their legacy titles to begin with, and marketing matters when it comes to the gaming market.

Also lmao at the Mafia reference, I don't see legbreakers going into dev studios and threatening people. :story:
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So, you saying they should pull Epics scummy strategy and throw massive amounts of cash at publishers? Also, yeah my mafia reference isnt wrong since they are pretty much bribing publishers to use their shit store
 
The tired cat said:
So, you saying they should pull Epics scummy strategy and throw massive amounts of cash at publishers? Also, yeah my mafia reference isnt wrong since they are pretty much bribing publishers to use their shit store
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If they want to seriously compete with Steam, then definitely yes. Exclusives are the only real way to compete in the gaming market, they have been proven to work time and again since the old Nintendo/SEGA days. Gamers are a market that primarily exists for gouging, which is a sad reality, but it IS a reality that cannot be avoided.

If they are happy with their current position in the market, then they should do more legacy titles and kill the overhead as much as possible, because there will be a ceiling to their growth.
 
neural said:
If they want to seriously compete with Steam, then definitely yes. Exclusives are the only real way to compete in the gaming market, they have been proven to work time and again since the old Nintendo/SEGA days. Gamers are a market that primarily exists for gouging, which is a sad reality, but it IS a reality that cannot be avoided.

If they are happy with their current position in the market, then they should do more legacy titles and kill the overhead as much as possible, because there will be a ceiling to their growth.
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This is the most re.tarded thing Ive ever heard in my goddamn life. Seriously, bringing console exclusive bullshit into the PC market because "duuhhh...it worked back den guys"
 
The tired cat said:
This is the most re.tarded thing Ive ever heard in my goddamn life. Seriously, bringing console exclusive bullshit into the PC market because "duuhhh...it worked back den guys"
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You may hate it, but that's the way games always were, anytime you see a platform 'win" in any genenration, it always comes down to two things: Entry Price and Exclusives.

Well when it comes to PC, the price thing is irrelevant because if you have Steam, then you must have a PC of some kind, so you've already paid the entry price. This only leaves exclusives on the table as a way to compete..
 
neural said:
You may hate it, but that's the way games always were, anytime you see a platform 'win" in any genenration, it always comes down to two things: Entry Price and Exclusives.

Well when it comes to PC, the price thing is irrelevant because if you have Steam, then you must have a PC of some kind, so you've already paid the entry price. This only leaves exclusives on the table as a way to compete..
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So, instead offering better deals or games being cheaper, we need to accept Epics bullshit, because their dick sucker club said so
 
The tired cat said:
So, instead offering better deals or games being cheaper, we need to accept Epics bullshit, because their dick sucker club said so
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The Epic split is good for gaming overall, because it makes the economies easier to achieve for new franchises or sequels to cult games. Reaching a magic figure becomes easier when you get more money per copy, this means that you need less copies sold, which is good news for niche titles.

Competition forces companies to invest instead of sitting on their laurels, like for example, Valve needs to start on making/buying exclusives themselves if they want to combat this, which means more games on the market overall, more dev jobs..etc.

Like them or not, the PC market is growing because of Epic.
 
The tired cat said:
So, instead offering better deals or games being cheaper, we need to accept Epics bullshit, because their dick sucker club said so
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Dude, you are arguing with Neural, you won't get through to him.

Also regarding the whole "Metro Exodus sold 2.5 times the copies of Last Light at launch!" bullshit.

Last Light sold poorly at first. So around 50k copies I hear.

So 2.5 that is around 250k or 300k. Basically not much. So it isn't selling well on the Epic Game Store. You can even tell this to be the case as few are talking about the game now.
 
For the record the people actually trying to shill for this storefront because Steam has a few issues are honestly pretty sad and aren't much different from someone trying to defend EA for their anti-consumer practices. And it's always the same people shilling for it too. On here, and on Steam.

Prowler and Eisberg on the steam discussion boards go to any thread on steam bashing the EGS and shill for it endlessly. Always try to come across as intellectual and persuasive too...almost as if they are trained to do this.
 
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