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Mellorine said:
The Hugos don't have judges, much less final ones. They're purely a write-in popularity contest accessible to anyone who wants to pay the $50 to be a supporting member of the World Science Fiction Society. That's why the "all awards for NK Jemisin forever" crowd lost their shit at the idea of other people merely getting organized to vote for people they didn't like and counter-organized to vote "No Award" in the categories where nobody meeting their approval made it onto the ballot. But it's also kind of bullshit to pretend the Puppies were solely interested in getting good ol' fashioned adventure scifi (as opposed to message scifi) into the awards when they're the ones who nominated Chuck Tingle onto the slate, while anyone familiar with Chuck's grift would have known he was a liberal and likely to pull something tediously "zany" to spite them.
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I thought it was only write in votes for the nominees with judges picked the winners from those lists. When no woke books made the cut for a given slate they voted "no award" to spite them.
 
Judge Dredd said:
I thought it was only write in votes for the nominees with judges picked the winners from those lists. When no woke books made the cut for a given slate they voted "no award" to spite them.
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The essential premise of the Hugos is that the awards are voted for by attendees of WorldCon/members of the WSFS, as they have been since their inception in the 1950s. Though people don't actually have to attend the convention to vote; one can purchase a supporter membership instead that includes the right to cast a ballot, but they've always been by-the-fans awards deliberately kept free of eligibility qualifications or formal judging. Hence there being so many categories for fan works. "No Award" has long been an option; it occasionally topped the votes for the "Dramatic Presentation" category in the '60s and '70s.

That's why the whole Progressives vs Puppies thing was hilarious: much like the old saw about the fights in academia being so bitter and bloodthirsty because the stakes are so small, people on all sides were losing their shit about what amounted to "Well I'm gonna get all my friends to come and vote for the guy I like to win Battle of the Bands!! That'll show the world who's really the best!!" One clique got annoyed that another clique had managed to consistently take the awards for awhile and set off a firestorm by trying to encourage strategic voting within their own fandoms.

Edit: Nominations are over for this year, but there might still time to buy a membership and participate in the final vote if that's something you're into: http://www.thehugoawards.org/i-want-to-vote/
 
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Mellorine said:
The Hugos don't have judges, much less final ones. They're purely a write-in popularity contest accessible to anyone who wants to pay the $50 to be a supporting member of the World Science Fiction Society.
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Right. If anything, the various "Puppies" movements proved the opposite of what they ostensibly set out to - there's no cabal of "SJW gatekeepers" holding down quality works that the community really wants. The entire community is just cancerous through and through, and the Hugos are a democratic expression of their preferences.
 
RandomNobody said:
Today is a special day, buckaroos!

Today marks Two Hundred Days since the last Project Tingle Update! Love is not real!

Yay!
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Here’s your update, buried in her announcement of heart machine’s new garbage game. The game she’s been “writing” for.

699473
 
AnOminous said:
So she just stole all the money and has waltzed off with it, fuck you.
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At this point her track record on these things has become so abundantly clear that you're more an idiot for giving her money than she is an asshole for stealing it.

I don't get mad at a Lion for killing a gazelle and I don't get mad at a professional scam artist parting morons with their shekels.
 
Imagine pissing away people's money with nothing to show for it, then trying to play the victim. She kept repeating how well thought out and planned out her budget was going to be roughly $70k and would be completed in 3 months. Then instead decided she could use that money for personal salary for 2 years and even going on expensive vacations before deciding that the project couldn't be done.

This is the most blatant scam or a lazy, uncaring, irresponsible person who shouldn't even be trusted with a houseplant. There is absolutely no reason why she couldn't say the project was fucked when she had almost nothing done after the 3 months deadline, let alone drag things out years past the deadline before telling everybody she couldn't finish the project.
 
NotAWeeb said:
There is absolutely no reason why she couldn't say the project was fucked when she had almost nothing done after the 3 months deadline, let alone drag things out years past the deadline before telling everybody she couldn't finish the project.
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She has total contempt for the idiot cucks who give her money, because why wouldn't she? They're pathetic suckers and don't deserve to have money.
 
Snowflake Buster said:
Now that she admitted it, how would the superbackers react to this? You think they'll sue her?
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Once you get past the subsection of backers who don't care because they were only supporting her, not the game, you'll have to get past the ones who will believe she honestly could have spent over $80,000 on her game and not come up with a finished product. Then past the ones who won't question the 'don't want to not pay people' part, when a large part of the payment-required people stuff has already been done, so the programming that's left should, theoretically, be able to be done by Renowned Game Creator Zoe Quinn.

Basically, she's got levels of lies going on here, and it's unlikely any of the backers have the will, knowledge or intelligence to actually challenge her on any of them.
 
Only Zoe Quinn can make $80,000 disappear and still get treated like a victimhood princess. Then people continue to throw money at her, hoping, no, knowing that this time she'll deliver on her promises.

Zoe is the Star Wars of scam artists.
 
The subsection of idiots willing to back a Tingle game is the same group of dumbasses who wouldn't question her on where the money went.

Mouthbreathers and their cash are soon parted.

Its the same way Tingle just shrugged and went "Iunno" and got absolved of his involvement in the scam.
 
It's amazing none of them are really questioning how expensive it should be to just link a bunch of videos together. She worked with what appeared to be a group of friends and according to that shitty Vice doc the vast majority of it was already recorded.

Fuck it, I hope she rips them off again and again. If they don't/refuse to learn, it stops being a Quinn problem and starts being a them problem. A shitty little Chihuahua bites you once, the dog's the problem. The dog bites again and again and again and no action is taken, you're the problem.
 
NotAWeeb said:
This is the most blatant scam or a lazy, uncaring, irresponsible person who shouldn't even be trusted with a houseplant. There is absolutely no reason why she couldn't say the project was fucked when she had almost nothing done after the 3 months deadline, let alone drag things out years past the deadline before telling everybody she couldn't finish the project.
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Point taken, but this is like the 5th blatant scam that the lazy, uncaring cunt has done. At some point, the marks deserve just as much blame as her. It's not like she's changed her MO or scammed a completely different audience than usual here.

If subhuman neckbeards want to pay a cunt that isn't going to fuck them to do nothing, then so be it. You can't fix these people.

ETA: I replied last page, I see others have made a similar argument.
 
Why can't we blame them all? Why choose? She's a vile scammer, they're idiots.
 
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