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And while she's at it, she can go inflate herself with a garden hose. (Insert Andrew Dobson cucking)
💰 Grifter Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.
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Zoe got the power she has in the video game industry/press due to a couple of factors:
1. Fucked all the right people
2. Is female and spouts all of the right political jargon
3. And this is the most important, but ties into the previous two: the gaming press decided, unilaterally because of reasons one and two, to make her the "new face of indie video games". A LOT of capital was invested by a lot of powerful people to try and make Zoe a figure of influence and power within gaming. It's why the gaming press and it's ilk were so willing to die protecting her during Gamergate, in that Zoe was a pet project for the gaming press as far as taking a nobody camwhore and turning her into the poster girl for the indie gaming industry. They made Zoe and were dead set on stopping anything or anyone who might tear down their creation (though Zoe fucking her benefactors probably helped, in terms of Zoe using sex to more permanently bind her benefactors into sacrificing themselves for her once it became apparent to EVERYONE that Zoe was pure evil and not worth burning everything done in order to protect).
Wargarbl
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This gives too much credit to Zoe and the goblins that inhabit the
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Remember, games journalists are paid in pathetic amounts of attention and freelancers get enough to buy a cheap pizza for every clickbait article. Maybe the top tier of these nobodies, like Klepek or that alcoholic Leigh Alexander at her height, get something like a living wage.
Zoe arranged a lot of this shit herself and her grift is to appear important in one industry to get away with minor grifts in other industries after she burns everyone who helped her in the first. So she used her goobergrape fame to get a book deal, which she failed to even write in a timely fashion and which flopped, but while that was failing, leveraged it into a lucrative film option that also would never happen, then took her "established" status as a "games developer" into a comic that also flopped.
We don't know what her next scam will be, only that a bunch of cucked idiots will yet again be left holding the bag swearing they weren't kickstarted up the ass yet again.
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What makes you think she got money from the film option? There’s no proof and she’s not stopped begging for work even after pocketing $85k from Kickstarter.
Hilariously she’s stopped pimping her Patreon, though.
Hilariously she’s stopped pimping her Patreon, though.
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Echoing the sentiment that this gives far too much credit to Machiavellian intentions on the part of everyone involved in the gaming journalist sphere as opposed to it mostly being idiots making dumb decisions.
People who are intelligent and mentally stable enough to succeed in the real world generally don't willingly choose to write about games for a living in lieu of the literal thousands of careers that pay better, which is why Zoe and her clique of Something Awful rejects looked like LARPing speds every time one of them turned on the rest and leaked their private discussions. These are people who spent Xmas 2014 planning extremely gay ops in their chatrooms and writing essay-length dossiers on every twitter user who hurt their feelings.
Con artists never stop running the con, especially when they're con artists because of mental illness as in the case of someone like Zoe.
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Even Zoe can't pretend she's done anything for her Patrons, she hasn't updated in years, and the few updates she has made were just promises of things she was going to do like vlogs which she obviously never did. At this point she's just clinging on to patrons who forgot they subscribed in the first place, and mentioning her Patreon will probably lose her patrons when they get reminded that she's done nothing.
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"Game Journalism" is to "Journalism" what Warhammer is to actual war and to stretch that further, the 5 Guys situation was like a slap fight around the Warhammer table. Despite their experience in conflict games they had never before encountered an actual conflict, they didn't know what to do so they panicked. Quinn and a few others obviously had a real interest in shutting everything down but most probably followed suit because they didn't know what to do, and this would be the first few days when the Zoepost was just the grievances of a partner that had been repeatedly lied to and cheated on, before it turned into 'gamergate' and everything that comes with that name.
Maybe Eron was #MeToo-ing to early?
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It also isn't the only time such a thing has happened. Real journalists had a similar scandal with a private mailing list called JournoList.
There was much less evidence of that list actually being used for collusion and it was mostly people shooting the shit.
Even so, it was a scandal, and some members of the list, like Dave Weigel, got fired from their jobs as a result.
The GJP creeps openly colluded to agree on what to say, and like clockwork, the "gamers are dead" story came out from a bunch of "journalism" outlets simultaneously, with near identical wording.
Not one of these cunts has apologized or even admitted there was anything ethically questionable about this behavior, which shows that even by the lax standards of journalism, these fake journalists don't measure up.
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The Games Journo Pro losers and other "games journalist" ideological losers are worthless shitty activists masquerading as worthless shitty journalists. Most of them suck at games too, like when Polygon tried to play Doom or that one idiot couldn't get past the air dash section of the Cuphead tutorial. They are also lazy and unscrupulous plagiarists like when some idiot at IGN copied a Dead Cells review he found on YouTube.
"Everything you touch turns to shit, like Kind Midas's idiot brother."
"Everything you touch turns to shit, like Kind Midas's idiot brother."
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I think the explanation for her staying power in terms of games journalism is a lot simpler, but also a lot weirder.
So I think anyone with a functioning brain and internet connection could see that Zoe is trash, she isn't a games designer or producer, and if she is it's mid-level office tier work, when relied upon to actually great a genuine product she hasn't got a great track record.
So initially she was using her puss to influence positive press for her Indy game, and this was probably done when she still had the intention of being a game developer, or was at least looking to build up enough positive credit with depression quest to get herself a nice little position at a big studio, her blue check mark, and a regular salary.
The issue was is that this all happened during gamer gate, and she became the focus of attention because she was the one that captured the public perception. Look at it this way, if it had been anyone else from Quinn caught shagging journalist for favorable press then they would have ended up being the main victim of gamer gate.
The main difference is, is that despite the negative reactions from gamers, all of a sudden you had a lot of press come to her aid, partly because of the sympathy, white knighting and virtue signalling that millenials are so apt to claim, but as well as that it became it's own weird self sustaining movement, GG and the SJW's that fought them was news, and I'm willing to be that if you could have seem their metrics during that time, the clickbait titles were probably making them a killing in terms of click through. We already know that the journalist have no ethics, especially game journos, so the capacity for click through on articles does become a factor, monetarily and also because of future potential for a salaried position at one of these large clickbait mills. No different from any hacks.
For Zoe's part the attention, the sympathy, the power and the money it brought, especially the money and the power would be a really fantastic reason to push the GG and SJW stuff to the max, as long as she has stayed in the public perception, and was drawing money from the various sympathetic organisations and paypigs who were willing to throw her shekels, she remains somewhat relevant and the gravy train continued. Hence the reason that despite protesting the opposite, Zoe has always been trying to get herself at the center of attention, whether that was sabotaging contests or starting feuds with people on twitter.
For their part the games press prop her up at this point because they had spent so much time in the beginning trying to paint her as the martyr. Rather than admit they were wrong, and I'm sure some actually do believe she is honest and a real game developer, the majority of game journos won't admit the narrative now because it will mean that the original reason for GG and those "Toxic Fans" were actually right, and the media was wrong, and they simply can't do that.
Or at least that's my impressions, I'm not super well versed on all the details.
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I'm not sure about that. One of the biggest outlets doing all this was Gawker, and they reported that they were losing literally millions in revenue just from Sam Biddle being a repulsive piece of shit, and Denton claimed Gamergate's revenge cost them even more than Biddle.
That is what left Gawker open for Hulk Hogan tagging in and finishing them.
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and let's not forget 4. much of the video game industry/press consists of pathetic white male nerds who would crawl over a mile of broken glass and eat a pound of dogshit if they thought it might get them a sniff of minge
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My take on Quinn is this: She's a woman with lots of ambition but no talent, skills, and work ethic that tried to make up for those shortcomings by attempting to fuck her way to the top. She first tried to ply her trade in Canada and it blew up in her face, prompting her to move down to the States, where she managed to make the right friends and suck the right dicks. Even before the whole Zoepost thing blew up, Chelsea was working her way up through the indie scene, as demonstrated by articles on Giant Bomb where she was sperging about her favorite games of 2013 (which not surprisingly, was full of indie garbage and "look how lolrandomquirky I am!" picks like Bubsy 3D).
So essentially, there was already a small personal army behind Quinn, and when this whole shitshow became a full blown autism holy war, it was imperative that Queen Quinn be defended at all costs, because they had already spent all this time and energy establishing her as the Next Big Thing in Gaming and having Eron expose her as a lying, cheating, and emotionally manipulative starfucker was going to put a monkey wrench in all that. However, similar to her fellow professional victim Brianna Wu, Quinn has overestimated how much pull she has and how far she can take her grift. Much like John Flynt, Quinn has cried wolf too many times and rattled the tin cup too many times, making a lot of her supporters tired of her shit, resulting in a huge drop-off in the size of her personal army and paypigs.
In 2014 and 2015, her Patreon was raking in thousands a month, she was offered a juicy book deal (with a movie option attached), a deluge of articles sucking on her diseased clit, and getting her CON grift off the ground. 5 years later, her book bombed, her Patreon intake has dropped drastically (and if Patreon continues what they're doing, she won't even have that), there's no movie being made, CON is an empty shell that left a bunch of disgruntled trannies in its wake, and she's over 2 years late on a KickStarter that even her most ardent supporters are starting to call her out on. The only thing going for her is a comic book that is well on its way to getting cancelled by issue 6. In another 5 years, Chelsea is going to be just another piece of white trash living in a trailer and supporting a meth habit and a kid with Down Syndrome by stripping.
So essentially, there was already a small personal army behind Quinn, and when this whole shitshow became a full blown autism holy war, it was imperative that Queen Quinn be defended at all costs, because they had already spent all this time and energy establishing her as the Next Big Thing in Gaming and having Eron expose her as a lying, cheating, and emotionally manipulative starfucker was going to put a monkey wrench in all that. However, similar to her fellow professional victim Brianna Wu, Quinn has overestimated how much pull she has and how far she can take her grift. Much like John Flynt, Quinn has cried wolf too many times and rattled the tin cup too many times, making a lot of her supporters tired of her shit, resulting in a huge drop-off in the size of her personal army and paypigs.
In 2014 and 2015, her Patreon was raking in thousands a month, she was offered a juicy book deal (with a movie option attached), a deluge of articles sucking on her diseased clit, and getting her CON grift off the ground. 5 years later, her book bombed, her Patreon intake has dropped drastically (and if Patreon continues what they're doing, she won't even have that), there's no movie being made, CON is an empty shell that left a bunch of disgruntled trannies in its wake, and she's over 2 years late on a KickStarter that even her most ardent supporters are starting to call her out on. The only thing going for her is a comic book that is well on its way to getting cancelled by issue 6. In another 5 years, Chelsea is going to be just another piece of white trash living in a trailer and supporting a meth habit and a kid with Down Syndrome by stripping.
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People were saying this five years ago about now, though. I certainly hope that future hurries up getting here.
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The sorry state of gaming journalism is not that surprising. I'm guessing most of those publications are funded though ad revenue rather than print sales, and that will swiftly corrupt any attempt at objectivity.
The state of American firearms journalism through the early 1980's is an example of this. No gun magazine would give any gun from an advertiser a bad review. Even dogs like the Rogak got a pass from American Rifleman. Not until Phil Engeldrum started Pistolero Magazine, which refused all gun maker ads, did the truth come out about notorious crap like the first generation Smith and Wesson semiautos. Eventually this had an effect, and now it's relatively uncommon for a bad gun to make its stealthy way into the market.
At the time, Engeldrum theorized that gun manufacturers sent carefully tuned and polished examples to the magazines for assessment. Later on, one of the reviewers revealed the shameful truth: The manufacturers didn't bother. They sent the same crap they sold to gun shops everywhere, and the reviewer had to say nice things or they'd get rejected by the magazine, which feared a loss of ad income.
Why would gaming journalism be any better? No one ever got killed because a game sucked.
The state of American firearms journalism through the early 1980's is an example of this. No gun magazine would give any gun from an advertiser a bad review. Even dogs like the Rogak got a pass from American Rifleman. Not until Phil Engeldrum started Pistolero Magazine, which refused all gun maker ads, did the truth come out about notorious crap like the first generation Smith and Wesson semiautos. Eventually this had an effect, and now it's relatively uncommon for a bad gun to make its stealthy way into the market.
At the time, Engeldrum theorized that gun manufacturers sent carefully tuned and polished examples to the magazines for assessment. Later on, one of the reviewers revealed the shameful truth: The manufacturers didn't bother. They sent the same crap they sold to gun shops everywhere, and the reviewer had to say nice things or they'd get rejected by the magazine, which feared a loss of ad income.
Why would gaming journalism be any better? No one ever got killed because a game sucked.
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Similarly, it was confirmed Zoe and her CON group had some database of various GGers, Journalists that weren't confirmed to be her cucks, etc. Dossiers, effectively. David Pakman, for example, was sent his back in the day and did a video on it IIRC.
Again, this is why the response to Tim Soret and THQN was so quick and organized. She literally has her little goons do oppo research on her targets and has that shit prepped just in case she decides she needs to go after someone.
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That's the effect, but it doesn't have to be even that overt. I know there are slacks and Discords that are involved with things like this, little chat rooms where someone can find something they regard as offensive, and then all one of them has to do is say something like, 'Ugh, look at this. I don't have the spoons to deal with this kind of [insert bigotry here],' and the rest of the chat members will more than happily pile on.
Each time, it doesn't look like targeted harassment - and the people involved wouldn't think of it as such, and not even be entirely incorrect, especially on an individual event basis. But the effect is exactly the same, and if someone like Zoe or another careful manipulator is involved, there can be carefully aimed malice disguised as fighting oppression.
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That's literally what she did against Candace Owens. The thing is, Owens was better at it than Zoe was -- and gave Zoe a unique email address. So when Zoe's little clique went after her, claiming to be GamerGate trying to keep the evil Black Womxn from outing them, well, Candace didn't have to know what GG was to know Zoe was up to something.