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https://www.engadget.com/2019/02/20/google-nest-secure-mic-forgot/

Google put a microphone in Nest Secure and forgot to tell anyone
The company now says its inclusion was 'never intended to be a secret.'

Saqib Shah

56m ago in Home

Engadget


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Google's decision to bring Assistant-enabled voice controls to its Nest Securesystem is causing a stir almost a year after the integration was rolled out. The problem is no one actually knew the security device, launched in September, 2017, packed a microphone in the first place. Google built a mic into its Nest Guard -- a small hub with a keypad on top that communicates with the other sensors in its Secure system -- but failed to mention it in its product materials, reports Business Insider. Asked about the microphone's existence, Google said it was "never intended to be a secret."

$57 million fine in France over its opaque data consent policies. That was followed by outcries from smart home companies accusing it, and Amazon, of requesting non-stop hardware insights.

For its part, Google adds that the Nest Guard's microphone has never been on and that users must first enable it before talking to it. It said the mic was originally included in anticipation of future security updates, like the ability to detect broken glass.

Nest notably scrapped plans to build its own smart speaker back in March, 2016, because it reportedly didn't think privacy-conscious consumers would take to a virtual assistant tied to Google. Two months later Google announced Assistant, but it would take roughly two years before it began integrating the AI with Nest's products, starting with the indoor version of the Cam IQ in February, 2018.
 
Not surprised to be honest. They’ll pull whatever they can if it means to make an extra dime or two.
 
Shut up, don't
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This is the way the world is going -- useless and invasive features added needlessly to everyday products, so that companies can spy on you to make an extra dollar here and there.

Fuck 'em. I don't need an iPad built into my refrigerator so I can remotely check if I have enough eggs. If they could actually produce a foodarackacycle, then we'll talk.

It's worse than that though. If it was just useless features and the companies spying on you that'd be bad enough, but even worse, we've got absolute shitloads of unsecured web servers out there. If your PC gets infected and becomes part of a botnet, you might notice something's up, but are you gonna notice if it's your fridge? What are the odds all those companies are pushing out regular firmware updates to fix security vulnerabilities (lol)?
 
Didnt they say the same shit about the Android phones? "Oh the mic is never on, you specifically have to say GOOGLE RECORD THIS and save everything I might even think about and dont let me access the data to see what youve got", wait it doesnt work like that and it's ALWAYS on (I think as long as the phone is active and not "sleeping")? Whoops, silly me!
I'll never understand why people think this is somehow "safe". If it has to hear "Okay Google" before it responds, that means it's constantly listening.
'Don't be evil' my ass.
 
I know I'm late, but it bears repeating: how the fuck do you "forget" to mention that? Especially given that they're trying to spin it as a feature they decided to cut, which itself is a laughable excuse, because why, if it wasn't something they were planning on implementing, would they pay the extra manufacturing costs to include a microphone. I'd be curious if the device's packaging/promotional material listed that it had a microphone on it, because if not, that makes the whole thing even more questionable than it already was.
 
Even USB charger cables can have GPS nowadays.
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And a SIM card for some reason? Why does a cable need GPS and a cell connection?

Shut up, don't


It's worse than that though. If it was just useless features and the companies spying on you that'd be bad enough, but even worse, we've got absolute shitloads of unsecured web servers out there. If your PC gets infected and becomes part of a botnet, you might notice something's up, but are you gonna notice if it's your fridge? What are the odds all those companies are pushing out regular firmware updates to fix security vulnerabilities (lol)?

Almost none do. They only even know about security issues when they get repeatedly and publicly pointed out and they have to do something. It costs too much money and time to do their own audits and fix shit. Their goal is to just get a working product out the door. Those smart fridges? I would expect rare updates if any. Also, relevant:

Wouldn't you expect a security system to have a microphone?

No. Why would it need one? An intercom yes, but a security system does not require one.
 
No. Why would it need one? An intercom yes, but a security system does not require one.
To hear people from where cameras might have blind spots? IDK how sophisticated security systems are these days. Guns are better.
 
Why did people even think the Internet of Things was a good idea?

I'm guessing it starts with "m" and ends with "oney."
 
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