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https://www.engadget.com/2019/02/20/google-nest-secure-mic-forgot/

Google put a microphone in Nest Secure and forgot to tell anyone
The company now says its inclusion was 'never intended to be a secret.'

Saqib Shah

56m ago in Home

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Google's decision to bring Assistant-enabled voice controls to its Nest Securesystem is causing a stir almost a year after the integration was rolled out. The problem is no one actually knew the security device, launched in September, 2017, packed a microphone in the first place. Google built a mic into its Nest Guard -- a small hub with a keypad on top that communicates with the other sensors in its Secure system -- but failed to mention it in its product materials, reports Business Insider. Asked about the microphone's existence, Google said it was "never intended to be a secret."

$57 million fine in France over its opaque data consent policies. That was followed by outcries from smart home companies accusing it, and Amazon, of requesting non-stop hardware insights.

For its part, Google adds that the Nest Guard's microphone has never been on and that users must first enable it before talking to it. It said the mic was originally included in anticipation of future security updates, like the ability to detect broken glass.

Nest notably scrapped plans to build its own smart speaker back in March, 2016, because it reportedly didn't think privacy-conscious consumers would take to a virtual assistant tied to Google. Two months later Google announced Assistant, but it would take roughly two years before it began integrating the AI with Nest's products, starting with the indoor version of the Cam IQ in February, 2018.
 
The solution is don’t invite google into your home. Bad enough they’ve got pics of everybody’s houses.
 
>launched a year and a half ago
>"never intended to be a secret"

Why do people even purchase their products anymore? They're inept at best and conniving at worst.

Turn your name into a verb for the common parlance and you can do anything.
 
Color me unsurprised. This isn't the first time google has pull shit like this. This reminds me of how an AP report came out that Google tracked your location even when you tell them not to.
Even though I'm a right-leaning Libertarian, companies like Google are why I can't justify believing in full Lassez-faire Capitalism. They're just as bad as a tyrannical government
 
Color me unsurprised. This isn't the first time google has pull shit like this. This reminds me of how an AP report came out that Google tracked your location even when you tell them not to.
Even though I'm a right-leaning Libertarian, companies like Google are why I can't justify believing in full Lassez-faire Capitalism. They're just as bad as a tyrannical government
Most of them have nice government bailouts so I would be fine with them being busted up so I'd agree
 
Didnt they say the same shit about the Android phones? "Oh the mic is never on, you specifically have to say GOOGLE RECORD THIS and save everything I might even think about and dont let me access the data to see what youve got", wait it doesnt work like that and it's ALWAYS on (I think as long as the phone is active and not "sleeping")? Whoops, silly me!
 
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Come back @Outer Party Member. We miss you and could you use insight into this.

Btw, I'm not sure fining Google 57million is really going to hurt them. Maybe add a zero to that and they might actually give a fuck.

57M isn't insignificant, but there is also the cost of negative publicity to consider.

Or perhaps any publicity....? But I think realistically that only applies to the unknown, not to brands everyone already knows about
 
No matter what smart (mic'd) device you use, if you talk about cat food and pet funerals more than twice in range of the thing you'll get a targeted ad for local 'pet cremation' services recommended within a day or two.

Taught me not to make dead cat jokes.
 
At this point, I assume any electronic device I buy that is in any way "networked" or "connected" at least definitely listens to me, possibly watches me, and if it's from any major tech company it might have GPS or some sort of wifi or Bluetooth spying too just to spite me.

Paranoid? Maybe. Wrong? Not sure about that.
 
At this point, I assume any electronic device I buy that is in any way "networked" or "connected" at least definitely listens to me, possibly watches me, and if it's from any major tech company it might have GPS or some sort of wifi or Bluetooth spying too just to spite me.

Paranoid? Maybe. Wrong? Not sure about that.
It's not paranoia if it's correct.
Or if so many companies have proven to do so in the past that it's an assumption by now.
 
If you're not already following this account, you really ought to be: https://twitter.com/internetofshit?lang=en

This is the way the world is going -- useless and invasive features added needlessly to everyday products, so that companies can spy on you to make an extra dollar here and there.

Fuck 'em. I don't need an iPad built into my refrigerator so I can remotely check if I have enough eggs. If they could actually produce a foodarackacycle, then we'll talk.
 
The solution is don’t invite google into your home. Bad enough they’ve got pics of everybody’s houses.
I know people who own those Alexa and Google things that listen 24/7 and asking them if they worry about privacy or security issues is like asking them if they think their dog will bite them. The tech is accepted completely as what's seen in the advertisements. I don't know if there is a limit to where they'd stop trusting google tbh.
 
At this point, I assume any electronic device I buy that is in any way "networked" or "connected" at least definitely listens to me, possibly watches me, and if it's from any major tech company it might have GPS or some sort of wifi or Bluetooth spying too just to spite me.

Paranoid? Maybe. Wrong? Not sure about that.
Even USB charger cables can have GPS nowadays.
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