Bikini Armor Battle Damage - Hypocrites and Sexy Art

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RockVolnutt said:
If she was a troon, it could go either way depending on which circles she's in. She could even be defended more because of it.
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I could see how that would be the case, even moreso if she's post-op. Would making that knowledge public help though or no in terms of defenders?
 
The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
And I quote "This, of course, willfully ignores the simple fact that not only so much more goes into sexualization than nudity (like framing, posing, expressions etc.)"

And yet they themselves don't seem to understand this. There are women who do indeed find Raiden and Conan sexy, and they don't need suggestive poses or lingerie thongs to do it. What women and men find sexy is not the same. Raiden wasn't put into his position to be sexy (at least I don't think so), but that doesn't make him less sexy than Quiet (he's still a pretty boy after all, and his good looks were intentional). You could even make the argument that Raiden's nakedness is cheeky snipe at fanservice in general.

The picture they use to illustrate their point actually further undermines their point; the woman on the right is only non-sexy because she was intentionally drawn to look ugly. If the woman on the right struck the same pose as the woman on the left and lacked the severed head , she would still be ugly, no matter what she was wearing or whether or not she had a head in her hand. If the woman on the left was drawn with a head in her hand and striking the same pose as the woman on the right with a scowl on her face, it would still be off-putting due to the violent nature of the picture itself, but the character would still be hot. Red Sonja is closer in personality to the woman on the right, but many still find her sexy. They are inadvertently admitting that they want to make females uglier to make them less sexualized.

Nudity isn't inherently sexual, but human beings, being sexual creatures, will sexualize another naked human being; its inherent to our DNA, and it generally takes a lot to dissuade us from doing that. Sexualization itself is in the eyes of the beholder; you could argue that both Quiet and Raiden were gratuitous and could of had their respective scenes removed, but what's the fun in that?
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Rumor has it that Raiden was designed to appeal to the female fanbase after receiving a letter from a fan. I can't verify this though.

Thiletonomics said:
Given that the creator of BABD is a female, how would things have been, had the creator been either a male, or a troon instead? Would the beliefs about "practical female character design" have been more ridiculous sounding, assuming that it is the same?
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Her site's co-owner is a man.
 
Oh look BARD got another bingo and turned a really cool redesign (imo anyway) and made it look so boring
http://bikiniarmorbattledamage.tumblr.com/tagged/no-pants
Like seriously these girls(Yes girls because they clearly haven't grown out of their teenage girl mentality) should really just stick to games and just media in general that cater do they design preferences and leave the people who actually like sexy and impractical armor and designs alone because screaming into the void wont solve anything or get you anywhere and im not saying female armor has to look impractical to be cool and interesting

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Honestly I know it wont be long they ending up with a new target to bitich about but its feels really good to see BARD actually give praise to a female character from time to time you

http://bikiniarmorbattledamage.tumblr.com/tagged/Brian-Chan

Also does anyone know where got that stupid page art from and does anyone else want to do skullgirls because I can only imagine the level the slat that will occur
 
The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
What women and men find sexy is not the same.
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I gotta disagree with you here. When it comes to discussing men and women, it's important to understand that the elements that make something hot/sexy and the elements that make something a power fantasy aren't a list of separate lists of ideals so much as a Venn Diagram with a surprising amount of middle ground when you break them down to their core elements. Whether Tumblr likes it or not, a major aspect in power fantasies for men & women is "Being Attractive," and for the most part the things that humans consider to be attractive are pretty much universal - hence why the ideal body types in manga are more-or-less the same with the major differences being more subtle depending on the target demographic, character designers of male characters tend to not bat an eye when fans consider them hot/sexy even when it's not the primary motive for their design choices, female fans tend to "pretty up" less attractive male characters for porn (Junkrat from Overwatch comes to mind), female character's popularity for cosplay tends to skyrocket when they get a deliberately sexy outfit (Harley Quinn) and how you have characters like Bayonetta and Vampirella having been designed by women. Humans just like looking at good-looking people, regardless of whether they want to be them or be with them.

I think to a certain extent BABD must understand that, and as a result project all their insecurities onto that, as they tend to not only target the impracticality of a fictional costume but minute details like designs on pants or tights (or even just the existence of tights), the mere existence of make-up. or the shape of the nose/jaw that are neither impractical or particularly titillating but flatter the character's appearance.
 
Thexenoclop said:
Honestly I know it wont be long they ending up with a new target to bitich about but its feels really good to see BARD actually give praise to a female character from time to time you

http://bikiniarmorbattledamage.tumblr.com/tagged/Brian-Chan

Also does anyone know where got that stupid page art from and does anyone else want to do skullgirls because I can only imagine the level the slat that will occur
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She's gonna have a bad day when someone grabs that mane of hair.
 
Thexenoclop said:
Another redesign coming in,this time its cherche from Fire emblem
http://bikiniarmorbattledamage.tumblr.com/tagged/fire-emblem-heroes

And damns does ozzie makes some takes in this
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I actually kind of like this redesign. I always though the cut out back on her original armor looked dumb. Also no poofy pants, chest flattening, or uglyfied faces. Though the red thing ruins it and it is obvious Ozzie is just using it as an excuse to cover her butt. It sticks out like a sore thumb.
 
madethistocomment said:
This didn't even make her outfit more """""practical""""". They literally just covered up the parts that show skin. When will they finally admit that they don't care about practicality and just hate women's bodies and would rather them fight in burkas?
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Can we also talk about the werid generalization ozzie does with the That Popular jRPG Which Panders to Perverts More With Every New Game, That Harem Thing With Undressed “Defeated” Sprites and That Sexy Flower Warrior Girl Hentai
Im not really sure if these are generalization but it just come off as misinformed and bitter for some reason
 
Thexenoclop said:
Honestly I know it wont be long they ending up with a new target to bitich about but its feels really good to see BARD actually give praise to a female character from time to time you

http://bikiniarmorbattledamage.tumblr.com/tagged/Brian-Chan

Also does anyone know where got that stupid page art from and does anyone else want to do skullgirls because I can only imagine the level the slat that will occur
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I always think it's funny when BABD holds up examples like this as "functional" or "realistic" or "practical" when, from what I understand real knights & soldiers would not only never bother with something so ornate, but since most couldn't afford a full set of armor the first piece of protection they would get when able was a helmet. The logic supposedly being that they could protect the other parts of their body with a couple layers of padded leather and make do, but the same couldn't be done with one of the most essential parts of your body: your head.

I can't help but notice that very few of the examples they hold up as being the "correct" way to do fantasy armor ever include this important piece of protection, or if they do it's just as useless (or in some cases actually more useless) than the official designs they rail against. I'm sure they have a not-at-all-hypocritical excuse why this particular impracticality goes ignored though.
 
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One Man Bland said:
I always think it's funny when BABD holds up examples like this as "functional" or "realistic" or "practical" when, from what I understand real knights & soldiers would not only never bother with something so ornate, but since most couldn't afford a full set of armor the first piece of protection they would get when able was a helmet. The logic supposedly being that they could protect the other parts of their body with a couple layers of padded leather and make do, but the same couldn't be done with one of the most essential parts of your body: your head.

I can't help but notice that very few of the examples they hold up as being the "correct" way to do fantasy armor ever include this important piece of protection, or if they do it's just as useless (or in some cases actually more useless) than the official designs they rail against. I'm sure they have a not-at-all-hypocritical excuse why this particular impracticality goes ignored though.
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A lot of the armor they tout as practical actually looks more like parade armor than anything else, with them being really ornate and detail-oriented with sashes and capes and belts and all sorts of other fancy additions. From what I know, parade armor has a rep for being pretty heavy and should never see battle because of how unwieldy it is, so ironically a lot of these outfits they tout as practical are just as impractical as a chainmail bikini.
 
madethistocomment said:
A lot of the armor they tout as practical actually looks more like parade armor than anything else, with them being really ornate and detail-oriented with sashes and capes and belts and all sorts of other fancy additions. From what I know, parade armor has a rep for being pretty heavy and should never see battle because of how unwieldy it is, so ironically a lot of these outfits they tout as practical are just as impractical as a chainmail bikini.
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At least you can swim and move fast in a chainmail bikini.
 
UnsufficentBoobage said:
God, I am so, so tired of those "prince is ACTUALLY A GURL and so LESBLAURGHIANS ensue*" things...is it a tumblr right of passage to make one?

*princess being straight is not an option
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And the rescuer or ideal suitor of the princess in these stories is almost always non-white. It's something I've noticed.
 
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