🎨 Artcow Iconoclast / Jonathan Mack Sweet - The Chris-Chan of Arkansas

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The people on that forum are getting fed up with his bullshit too. All these are by that Treenbeen guy.
You expect me to take anything you say with any weight at all, when you pull stuff like this?

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Rodney King's death was vindication for you? A man being viciously beaten by four police officers on film is vindication for you?

Everything isn't an attack on your family, no matter how you claim it is. I'm entirely uncertain how the riots in LA affected your family all the way away in your mother's house in the south.

And as for "what people will say" about this "revolution"...

You think people responded positively to the Civil Rights Movement? To the Women's Rights Movement? To ANY major change in history? I'll give you a hint, the answer is no. There was violence, and rioting, etc, because, as I've already said, to quote Martin Luther King Jr.: "A riot is the language of the unheard."

And we are being heard. Darren Wilson has resigned. He will receive no severance pay. Other countries have joined the protests, the UN has taken notice and released a statement. The FBI is investigating the Grand Jury and the Police Department. So don't you dare tell me that this "revolution" is for nothing. Because we are being heard. As it stands right now, we are winning. It's not over, not by a long shot, but we are making a difference. Sorry not sorry that that bothers you, because the deaths of these "thugs" are "vindication" for you.

You know what...We're never going to agree on this, because I have facts supporting my argument, whether or not you agree with it, and all you have is a sordid past of misplaced hatred and prejudice, as you have said yourself, evidenced in your comics, your day to day life, and your comments.

I have no desire to talk to someone with so much hate in their hearts towards people for the actions of a select few.

So, I have a request: don't talk to me about this anymore.

You are a racist and a pig and I would rather you never spoke to me again.
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1. Not everything is a personal attack on your family.

2. I'm mad at you for that picture.

3. They didn't tell you to go "beat some black kid to a pulp", they said that you had a choice on whether or not to do something about it, and you didn't. You could have fought back, but you didn't. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but they didn't say you should go out and "beat some black kid to a pulp." Don't exaggerate, I'm sick of your lies.

4. Let me once again quote Dr. King. "As I have walked among the desperate, rejected, and angry young men, I have told them that Molotov cocktails and rifles would not solve their problems. I have tried to offer them my deepest compassion while maintaining my conviction that social change comes most meaningfully through nonviolent action. But they ask -- and rightly so -- what about Vietnam? They ask if our own nation wasn't using massive doses of violence to solve its problems, to bring about the changes it wanted. Their questions hit home, and I knew that I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed in the ghettos without having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today -- my own government. For the sake of those boys, for the sake of this government, for the sake of the hundreds of thousands trembling under our violence, I cannot be silent."

I've asked you to stop talking to me. I'm about a hair's width away from blocking your posts entirely.
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Way to pick and choose your quotes. Yes, I said you choice not to go out there and do something about it, but I also said it was NOT A BAD THING that you did that.

Amazing how every time we talk about this, some new story "magically" appears to justify your racism. Except that it doesn't justify anything at all. Your choices got you here. No one else's. IF any of these stories are true, then yes, you've had some bad things happen to you. But guess what, so has everyone.

Doesn't mean you get to hate an entire group of people and when a major injustice happens against them, it's "vindication" for you.

Sorry not sorry that you feel like all the "liberals and blacks" are out to get you, but here's a tip: stop giving them so much ammo against you.

Now once again, because you seem to have trouble understanding me: I don't want to talk to you. About this, or about anything.
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Damn. Even a forum titled "USA Patriot forum" thinks he's crazy.
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I imagine many of them would agree with us over him, and it wouldn't be for some hivemind conspiracy-type reason either. We're not out to get him, individually, for no reason, key words being "for no reason". He's given us plenty of reasons, from his horrible opinions to his even more horrible opinions, as well as an excellent background story in case you wondered how he got to thinking this way. Ignorance isn't bliss after all, if Sweetness is our guide.

I try really hard not to let our subjects get to me but man his almost complete indifference to his mom's suffering really hits close to home. I'm not the strongest or smartest guy in the world (RIGHT JOHNNY??? HURR HURR HURR) but man I can't even imagine not having the will to act in defense of your family. That's true weakness, right there. That's why we're all calling you out over it, Sweetie. Just use logic and reasoning here: if there were "4 large, angry African-Americans" beating your mom down, maybe if there were two people and you screamed about how the cops had been called then they might have fled? Sure, you could have gotten stomped (because lets be honest, there's not a chance in hell you'd have done any sort of damage to them) but like I said previously, why is that a bad thing? You desperately need it now, judging by how bloated and inflated your own ego is and how little you care about anyone other than yourself. And hey, if you absorbed a blow aimed for your mom and it was you that suffered the crippling injury instead, then you'd at least have a good reason to constantly whine about how the world is after you and how unfair and fucking corrupt the world is.

Oh wait, no you wouldn't. You'd still be an awful shithead. Also a fucking racist too, which is just hilarious. You feeling superior to anyone for anything is laughable.
 
It bothers me that this punk has the audacity to think in order for him to be successful and happy, a certain type of person has to be president. It also , I think, shows a classic example of the mantra of racist people. "Under a white president, I was successful and I had a job I loved, then the BLACK president came and overnight I lost my job, the non-existant girl of my dreams, and my brother all of a sudden controls my money." No matter the hand you dealt, you continue on and try to get where you need to be. As a black person, I saw people break barriers and never give up. I know this will fall on deaf ears because, no matter what, his life is ruined because of black people. Not because of your behavior, you bringing in half-assed work, not even the fact you can't even present yourself in a professional manner. You need to open your eyes. Obama never wrecked your life. It was burning before he ever ran. Get it together.
 
Honestly, the fact that he keeps harping on black people just makes me think back to all of the amazing things they invented and/or refined. Many of these things are things that this magnificently awful man uses regularly as well, like AC units and traffic lights.

Also, the fact that he graduated and got his degree in English or whatever means that the following career paths would've been technically open to him. I say technically since he shot himself in the goddamn face on every one of them by not bothering to at least look for some careers soon after graduating, thus creating a 20 year resume gap. Before he goes off and says some bullshit and cherrypicks my link, which does state that school papers are good job experience and that the evil owner of da paper would never positively refer him, he could've tried joining other publishers in the area, like a newspaper or the local TV network or something, to continue his experience and to get a more reliable reference in the impossible event that Liberal Bias really did completely bone him on the school's paper. So in this case, he truly and honestly ruined himself, although I know he won't see it that way.

Oh, and let's not forget there are other, recent fields he can join, one of them even being a form of journalism.
http://www.selloutyoursoul.com/2013/05/01/jobs-english-degree/
http://blog.brazencareerist.com/2013/08/06/5-well-paying-jobs-you-can-land-with-an-english-degree/
 
Sweets said:
I have known since I entered the dating arena as a young, virile buck some 21 years ago that the deck is stacked more in the woman's favor. I mean, think about it. When girls call up random men on the phone for sex, it's fun and cute and empowering. If a guy were to phone up a strange girl to spank one off, he would be considered a disgusting pervert and likely be arrested as a sex offender. If a girl runs out on a man for talking about his feelings, she is congratulated by her "sisters" for dumping that weak chump. if a man pulled that stunt with a woman, he would be looked at as a selfish, uncaring pig. Why is this?


I also note that the left is all for it, as long as you meet their arbitrary criteria for worth and they approve of who you wish to do it with. You needn't apply if you're too old, too physically unappealing, or don't happen to think a certain way. Theirs is a sneering elitist world of ageism and superficiality, ruled by selective outrage, pseudomoralistic [sic] sniffing, and raging hypocricy [sic]--in short, the very culture celebrated by 50 Shades and its audience of bored housewives and aging Lotharios reliving their faded glory days with this masturbatory piece of claptrap.


Of course the wild girls I knew two decades ago, who liked nothing better than sex without boundaries, now have daughters of their own. They see their teenage girls embracing the same attitudes and bitterly regret the wild seeds they sowed in their callow, ignorant youth. A few of these second-generation sluts may well find their way to the same men their mothers once enjoyed the company of--maybe a little snow on the shingles now, a few extra folds of flab around the midsection, but still that same old fire burning in the old furnace.


I say, good f***ing deal if you can get it.
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Blog entry, 2012. Emphasis added.
 
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A few of these second-generation sluts may well find their way to the same men their mothers once enjoyed the company of--maybe a little snow on the shingles now, a few extra folds of flab around the midsection, a weak and disappearing chin, no money to speak of, an inability to stand up to their brother, a laughable employment history, a fascination with their own bodily functions, a host of revenge fantasies about enemies they can never hope to prevail against, an unreasonable grip on the past, a bizarre appreciation for feces ...

but still that same old fire burning in the old furnace.
 
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He Sets Me On Fire said:
A few of these second-generation sluts may well find their way to the same men their mothers once enjoyed the company of--maybe a little snow on the shingles now, a few extra folds of flab around the midsection, a weak and disappearing chin, no money to speak of, an inability to stand up to their brother, a laughable employment history, a fascination with their own bodily functions, a host of revenge fantasies against enemies they can never hope to prevail against, an unreasonable grip on the past, a bizarre appreciation for feces ...

but still that same old fire burning in the old furnace.
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Keep dreaming, buddy.
 
Gotta love how he denigrates women by calling them sluts when he's all too happy to take advantage of the fact that they're putting out. I know it's hardly unique to our delusional friend, here, but it's just one more reason to look on him with complete disgust.
 
From his blog:

" So I believe that if The Herald is the sun around which my emotional universe revolves, then Ashleigh Bainks must be its Jupiter. The relationship began August of 1997."

Wait ... wait.

You know, I'm sure someone has already pointed this out. Somebody must have pointed this out.

Ashleigh Bainks (:?:) whose father was a lawyer(:?:).

Hm ... we need some pics. Allow me to present:

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Ashley Banks, whose father was a lawyer:


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He Sets Me On Fire said:
From his blog:

" So I believe that if The Herald is the sun around which my emotional universe revolves, then Ashleigh Bainks must be its Jupiter. The relationship began August of 1997."

Wait ... wait.

You know, I'm sure someone has already pointed this out. Somebody must have pointed this out.

Ashleigh Bainks (:?:) whose father was a lawyer(:?:).

Hm ... we need some pics. Allow me to present:

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Ashley Banks, whose father was a lawyer:


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If only that were the bottom of the rabbit-hole.

Search "Ashleigh Bainks" in quotes, and the only results are Sweet-related. Most notably, this - which looks very much like it was posted by Sweets under a pseudonym:

http://m.topix.com/forum/city/killeen-tx/TNFAB10J3HKLR6JLM

It's a rambling mess. The girl gave one name, then several, and maybe lied about her father's job...?

I'm calling it: the girl never existed. Contrast how nebulous this all is with the other targets of Sweet's obsessions - newspaper guy and shop guy. He FB stalks them, names them, makes wanted posters of them.

This girl just doesn't add up.

I also found this:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1341072...ter-Jonathan-M-Sweet_-made-by-Roselyne---Webs

It's an interview with Sweets from 10 years ago, for what looks like a horror/scifi zine. Could someone please download it - I can't on my phone. The Google result that brought me to it suggests he discussed "Ashleigh" in the interview.
 
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Did Iconoclast ever meet this woman ("woman"?) in person, or did they just have phone sex?
 
MrsFrizzle said:
Did Iconoclast ever meet this woman ("woman"?) in person, or did they just have phone sex?
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Allegedly they did meet, although my guess is that he thought that the sex hotline was real and stalked the shit out of "Ashleigh". I take most of Mr. Sweet's comments as being the the near opposite of what actually happened, considering his delusions and inability to see the sins within himself.
 
Maybe I'm late, but holy shit, Ashleigh was just a phone sex operator and he thought she was actually interested in him? How fucking stupid can he be?
 
autism420 said:
Maybe I'm late, but holy shit, Ashleigh was just a phone sex operator and he thought she was actually interested in him? How fucking stupid can he be?
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That's my legit hypothesis on the matter. I feel it is the more fitting one, as Mr. Sweet is prone to lying, ignoring, forgetting, and omitting to make himself look good. He tends to reveal as much info on the people he stalks as he can (Newspaper fellas), but hasn't done so with "Ashleigh". This combined with what he said on her (which was that he only saw her twice and most of their stuff was on the phone), and you get an idea she was possibly just a phone sex operator; they were never close, and the "relationship" was purely on the phone. Hell, "Ashleigh" got weirded out when he fucking met her, so she wasn't seriously thinking this was a legit thang. As we weren't there at the time, we will likely never know, and will have to use his testimony and our own ability to use context. It's sad really.
 
Interesting interview, @Absinthe. You can tell straight away the interviewer is being extremely sarcastic with Sweets and it just sails right over his head (in response to describing a rejection of a story, he says that the editor called him a misogynist; the interviewer replies, "I wonder why," and Sweets just carries on telling his life story). He seems determined to be edgy at all costs, describing Tupac's murder (Eli, you failed us!) as one of two of the best birthday presents he's ever gotten. He admits he "cussed out" a photographer who took a picture of him with an overly-bright flash, and describes her to the interviewer as a "dippy cunt" who somehow cost him the privilege of having an editorial cartoon run in the college paper alongside a column he wrote about Ross Perot. When he gets to the part about the Greene County, I mean college newspaper, conspiracy, he dubs the editorial editor a "faggot." The only further detail we get about "Ashleigh" is that she supposedly had a "full-blown" orgasm watching The Exorcist (as opposed to half an orgasm, I guess). He uses her and some other alleged girlfriend as proof that rich people raise their daughters to be "total cunts." The interviewer questions this, and then replies, "Quite an enlightened attitude you've got there," which doesn't seem to faze Sweets. That was as far as I got before being filled with the urge to ram my head into the wall -- or the feeling that I was already doing so.
 
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