Actually, we only have to use the word "autistic" as an insult once before making an account because that's pretty much all it takes to set off pissbabies that still get mad over "autistic" being used to describe something that is genuinely autistic in 2018/19:
Basically: Smatterbrain's entire persona hinges around them being autistic and how people who use "autistic" as an insult should be drawn and quartered so don't expect any kind of lucid discussion from them. It all ends up with them having a major shitfit at whoever disagrees with them on anything and then wondering why they've lost a couple of followers each time.
Furries are going to ruin the good spree of calling out the people in their own community if they allow this sentiment to completely take over. View attachment 646721 Archive
Look, yeah, I get it. Not everyone thinks to document everything as it happens - especially when they're in a relationship with that someone and still feel like they can trust them. However, if you allow everyone to accuse anyone of anything, you're eventually going to be on the shit end of this stick. Most of the recent allegations (but not all) have had at least some level of corroborating evidence to go with it. It's much easier to believe someone's accusations if you have something to show with it.
And yeah, there will be shitters like Pkrussl (who I will full on blame for fueling these kinds of arguments) that will flat out deny and refuse to believe an accusation even with the loads of evidence that accompanied it. He still doesn't believe the accusations against Kero and insists on shaming Kero's ex friends for " abandoning him " which is absolute horse shit.
Pkrussl's headassery shouldn't force you to go to the far end of the spectrum. If something really happened, people will find out about it. Even if you don't have solid proof to start with, a lot of the dumbshits in the fandom tend to out themselves while they attempt to make a defense and then later contradict said defense.
It's really hard to document emotional and mental abuse. Being caught in that situation, your abuser generally makes you think you deserve it, or that they're right about whatever it is. When those specific allegations come up, the fact that they become corroborated by multiple sources becomes the receipts that others are insisting need to exist. People want to believe the best in their friends; furries especially so. But multiple people speaking out about their abusive experiences at the hands of your bestie is a huge problem that should have you re-evaluating that friendship.
It's a shame that furries don't work that way, though. Hell, half the time, they dismiss the receipts that they're demanding regarding shitty behavior.
It's really hard to document emotional and mental abuse. Being caught in that situation, your abuser generally makes you think you deserve it, or that they're right about whatever it is. When those specific allegations come up, the fact that they become corroborated by multiple sources becomes the receipts that others are insisting need to exist. People want to believe the best in their friends; furries especially so. But multiple people speaking out about their abusive experiences at the hands of your bestie is a huge problem that should have you re-evaluating that friendship.
It's a shame that furries don't work that way, though. Hell, half the time, they dismiss the receipts that they're demanding regarding shitty behavior.
And with that, I totally agree. It's not likely that people who don't have any other connections aside from someone that previously dated all simultaneously coming up with similar yet intricate details about the type of abuse they suffered.
My point though is you should always try to ask for evidence when you can. If you don't, you may miss the mountain for the trees. Oftentimes when allegations come out against someone, people like those here in Animal Control will find some other deep, dark, horrible secret of there's that wasn't even acknowledged in the initial callout. Sometimes that's helped because a small piece of evidence gets overlooked until someone else finds it.
I also think that even though there will always be people who will ignore evidence, it's not likely those people would've been reached anyways. People who are set on defending their friends or those who they feel they have something to gain from those people will stick by them in spite of their wrongdoings.
However, those people don't matter to me. The ones who do are the ones who will listen - the ones who want to make the fandom better. I think those people are owed an explanation so they can better protect themselves and anyone they truly care about.
Maybe that's me though. Maybe I'm a little too idealistic but I just want to hope if you keep encouraging that behavior, more and more people will catch onto it.
Dovne is part of AdventureCru, the Renard-worshiping rascals who ruin hotel rooms and run around with fowties tied to their hands, holding private parties to isolate themselves from the actual fandom attending furcons. Then Renard was outed as a rapist and his crowd dispersed. Those left are people like Dovne who won't let go of this "I'm young forever" approach to life.
Raves aren't queer, you just realized the fandom gives you no pleasure but in connecting you with people who are equally detached from it. It's pretty amusing to follow AdventureCru. They all seemed like hyena-OC ear-gauged hipsters, but now half of them are trans trenders, half of the remainder fucked off, and the last few are those still holding on for dear life, scared of a living without going to every furcon imaginable.
I can relate a bit. I've found some good clans and guilds in games from /vg/ threads, just like how I've met nice furries, but both cases were meeting the absolute niche of niches, somehow aligning the stars as we did our monthly visit at the same time.
That's the kind of people these social media gods want to be surrounded by. Absolute perfection in terms of traits and interests, though to be fair at this point it's being LGBT and calling yourself "trash lesbian" or "1-800-gayfag". The fact they even associate with the fandom anymore, as they point out themselves, is laughable. They're just normal annoying tumblr-generation queers now. Obnoxious and changing opinions as often as they do gender: like fluid.
I can't find the picture on Twitter anymore, but it was basically 5 different eras of furry art. 80's cartoony, porn semi-defined, a bunch of thin hipster caricatures bound in their real life person, and then ultimately in where we find ourselves now: Thick lines, cartoony proportions, mascot-like qualities, made to attract attention and serve as a personal signature as if Bugs Bunny jumping out at the end of every tweet going "that's all folks".
In same nature, the fandom has moved from personal (porn) usage of OCs to a social media brand or icon. This has reduced the immediate audience to anyone gay, because at this point it doesn't matter if you're a homestuck troll or a dog with three dicks: You probably fit in with the LGBT crowd. Congrats Dovne, you reached your head outside your exclusive furcon hotel room and found someone traditionally gay, and suddenly the big mean world seems okay. It's gonna be fun when he realizes the normal LGBT culture is twice as toxic and rapey as furries.
I can't find the picture on Twitter anymore, but it was basically 5 different eras of furry art. 80's cartoony, porn semi-defined, a bunch of thin hipster caricatures bound in their real life person, and then ultimately in where we find ourselves now: Thick lines, cartoony proportions, mascot-like qualities, made to attract attention and serve as a personal signature as if Bugs Bunny jumping out at the end of every tweet going "that's all folks".
i feel like this is directed at the gore/kour shit that’s happening. a few people appearing on my feed keep making posts about believing the victims.
but what victim? cordial had a messy break up with her ex, and now said ex is with kour. it just comes off more and more “i’m a bitter ex so here’s a bunch of random screenshots of other people, but i’m blaming it on gorehund and artkour”
A minor correction here....yes, raves are queer. That's how the Gay Ken Doll happened.
Mattel wanted a Ken doll who was cool and on the cutting edge of fashion, and what is more cool than Ravers? They scoped out the rave scene and paid attention to what people were wearing, not realizing what they were actually looking at. In creating the quintessential rave boy, they also created the quintessential faggot.
Lol.
i feel like this is directed at the gore/kour shit that’s happening. a few people appearing on my feed keep making posts about believing the victims.
but what victim? cordial had a messy break up with her ex, and now said ex is with kour. it just comes off more and more “i’m a bitter ex so here’s a bunch of random screenshots of other people, but i’m blaming it on gorehund and artkour”
They're referring to edgedestroys (a known unstable antifa cow) and Cass/BigJaw (idk their twitter, used to work with gore/kour).
Cass/BigJaw is someone they both collabed with for a while but doesn't have social media AFAIK, Edge has the pastebin linked earlier in the thread and a lot of tweets about how much Kour/Gore are bullies by "suppressing" the victims' stories (despite this not being the first time this has been talked about in the last few years lmao). Edge and Cass were both roommates with Gore and collabed with Kour as well.
The rebuttal from Kour and Gore have also been posted and they actually have screenshots and some proof so I'm a little inclined to believe that the gray area that the truth is in is probably further away from the unsubstantiated fee fee shit and more in the side of someone accidentally made friends with batshit people and didn't handle them like the batshit people they are and probably had a ton of fuckups and miscommunications along the way. But read it all for yourselves and come to your own conclusions if you want.
There's also Buttsteak who thinks she's a victim and is probably the dumbest about all this and labels Gore as a bully because Buttsteak stole Gore's idea once and Gore asking them to not do that makes her a bully.
But also Buttsteak is a personal cow of mine that does a lot of concept theft, hence why I still have this shit 2.5 years later lol (Late)
EDIT: Basically what I'm getting out of this is if you have a personal beef with Kour or Gore no matter how small or how old, you're a victim and are allowed to destroy someone's life because of it (for what reason? who knows? Clout maybe?) But at least in the case of Buttsteak, to me it smells like people less successful trying to suppress the competition.
Dovne is part of AdventureCru, the Renard-worshiping rascals who ruin hotel rooms and run around with fowties tied to their hands, holding private parties to isolate themselves from the actual fandom attending furcons. Then Renard was outed as a rapist and his crowd dispersed. Those left are people like Dovne who won't let go of this "I'm young forever" approach to life.
Raves aren't queer, you just realized the fandom gives you no pleasure but in connecting you with people who are equally detached from it. It's pretty amusing to follow AdventureCru. They all seemed like hyena-OC ear-gauged hipsters, but now half of them are trans trenders, half of the remainder fucked off, and the last few are those still holding on for dear life, scared of a living without going to every furcon imaginable.
I can relate a bit. I've found some good clans and guilds in games from /vg/ threads, just like how I've met nice furries, but both cases were meeting the absolute niche of niches, somehow aligning the stars as we did our monthly visit at the same time.
That's the kind of people these social media gods want to be surrounded by. Absolute perfection in terms of traits and interests, though to be fair at this point it's being LGBT and calling yourself "trash lesbian" or "1-800-gayfag". The fact they even associate with the fandom anymore, as they point out themselves, is laughable. They're just normal annoying tumblr-generation queers now. Obnoxious and changing opinions as often as they do gender: like fluid.
I can't find the picture on Twitter anymore, but it was basically 5 different eras of furry art. 80's cartoony, porn semi-defined, a bunch of thin hipster caricatures bound in their real life person, and then ultimately in where we find ourselves now: Thick lines, cartoony proportions, mascot-like qualities, made to attract attention and serve as a personal signature as if Bugs Bunny jumping out at the end of every tweet going "that's all folks".
In same nature, the fandom has moved from personal (porn) usage of OCs to a social media brand or icon. This has reduced the immediate audience to anyone gay, because at this point it doesn't matter if you're a homestuck troll or a dog with three dicks: You probably fit in with the LGBT crowd. Congrats Dovne, you reached your head outside your exclusive furcon hotel room and found someone traditionally gay, and suddenly the big mean world seems okay. It's gonna be fun when he realizes the normal LGBT culture is twice as toxic and rapey as furries.
I think the interesting thing about Renard (at least what I've heard from people in the know) is that before all of that happened with him he was getting increasingly bigger gigs, and the Anthrocon sets he had were huge for him or by furcon rave standards. The videos of his set show a huge crowd, a testament to his following among both furries and outsiders like YTPMVers before all of this went down. It makes me genuinely wonder how many of his orbiters would still be furries if say, he still had the popularity he had during his heyday but also went in the less furry direction he went over time (his social media image seems more like that of a raver now).
I definitely agree about the OCs being a social media brand or icon. That was also one of Renard's more defining aspects, as he managed to use those OCs as his "brand" so well that other generic furry electronic musicians nowhere near as popular have aped that aspect of his career. I'd also argue that despite the flamewars about outsiders wanting to join the furry fandom thanks to positive media fluff pieces, the fandom is already full of people indistinguishable from the average Seattle ravers who view the fandom as little more than another "scene" to join and get quick fucks in hotel rooms in between parties. To them, their participation isn't about art or weird fiction but more about trying to get to the next con, and maybe a piece or two of art of their OC to reinforce their social media brand.
Have you ever seen him wearing that same boy/girl hat that Shmorky was seen wearing? Literally, Renard is just Shmorky minus the pedophilia. They're both talented at their fields, but they're also fucking creeps who think they're still in their teens despite being in their mid-thirties.
I know I am late but the Komua situation heated up in October as the "grooming" talk actually went somewhere as she admited she did have a relationship with Ash:
I guess she must have noticed as she has now deactivated her Deviantart account and discord server. (Though it may have been for something else also.)
For some reason though you can still access the account with this link: https://via.hypothes.is/https://www.deviantart.com/siickle/
Also she put the American Knight's video in one of her playlists:
And I'm even more worried since it's a husky. They're already a popular pick for zoos, but also may have been inspired by Sephius's videos made with his husky.
And I'm even more worried since it's a husky. They're already a popular pick for zoos, but also may have been inspired by Sephius's videos made with his husky.
i feel like this is directed at the gore/kour shit that’s happening. a few people appearing on my feed keep making posts about believing the victims.
but what victim? cordial had a messy break up with her ex, and now said ex is with kour. it just comes off more and more “i’m a bitter ex so here’s a bunch of random screenshots of other people, but i’m blaming it on gorehund and artkour”
They're referring to edgedestroys (a known unstable antifa cow) and Cass/BigJaw (idk their twitter, used to work with gore/kour).
Cass/BigJaw is someone they both collabed with for a while but doesn't have social media AFAIK, Edge has the pastebin linked earlier in the thread and a lot of tweets about how much Kour/Gore are bullies by "suppressing" the victims' stories (despite this not being the first time this has been talked about in the last few years lmao). Edge and Cass were both roommates with Gore and collabed with Kour as well.
The rebuttal from Kour and Gore have also been posted and they actually have screenshots and some proof so I'm a little inclined to believe that the gray area that the truth is in is probably further away from the unsubstantiated fee fee shit and more in the side of someone accidentally made friends with batshit people and didn't handle them like the batshit people they are and probably had a ton of fuckups and miscommunications along the way. But read it all for yourselves and come to your own conclusions if you want.
There's also Buttsteak who thinks she's a victim and is probably the dumbest about all this and labels Gore as a bully because Buttsteak stole Gore's idea once and Gore asking them to not do that makes her a bully.
But also Buttsteak is a personal cow of mine that does a lot of concept theft, hence why I still have this shit 2.5 years later lol (Late)
EDIT: Basically what I'm getting out of this is if you have a personal beef with Kour or Gore no matter how small or how old, you're a victim and are allowed to destroy someone's life because of it (for what reason? who knows? Clout maybe?) But at least in the case of Buttsteak, to me it smells like people less successful trying to suppress the competition.
