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I often see Disney fans having a rather odd bipolar fixation on Armitage Hux. There are obnoxious fangirls and fangays who won't stop drooling over the Tarkin wannabe, then there are other obnoxious fans who think anyone who likes him or the First Order is a Nazi/Trump supporter for some reason. I guess its because critics kept saying that he was Space Hitler because of that speech scene? Way to go Abrams... But the oddest of all is people who both like and hate him (like the actor but hate the character or vice versa, its hard to describe) who go to great lengths to defend him from Disney detractors or to criticize or adore his depiction in TLJ, with the most common argument among any of these types is "The Hux I know would never do this! This isn't my Armi-Huxy! This totally goes against everything Hux would do! Oh yeah, this is soooo like the Huxy to do!" I mean where do they get this shit from? And this was going on even at the time of TFA's release. Anyway, the majority of these twitter and facebook people don't read the new books (and the few that do say the same things about the few new books and comics Hux is in), and Hux is hardly in any of the Disney EU since all the new characters hardly get a mention in them since Disney wants nothing to contradict their films. But all their talk of the character makes it sound like they have a weird personal relationship with Hux concerning traits about him that don't exist anywhere. It reminds me of the talk in this thread previously concerning the Disney films being a sort of "blank canvas" movies where people fill in all the many blanks or confusing scenes with their own fanfiction. Something tells me Hux (and several others) are a strong example of this. Its like each new fans has their own version of Hux and other characters in their headcanon with some pre-conceived expectations based on mental fanfiction they conceived as they watched the new films.

On another slightly related note concerning trivia about Armitage Hux is that he actually used to be an EU character from the Death Troopers horror novel, however unlike his EU counterpart, the original version was an Imperial that wasn't just another stereotypical nazi wannabe, but a human being with his own personality who had a love of painting and was killed shortly before the Battle of Yavin in a dissection laboratory. Also, in the few Disney material outside the films Hux appears in, he is now a bastard child according to Chuck Wendig who was "born spoiled" and "abused in every way" by his father.

Edit: Another interesting bit of trivia is that around the early 2000s, a parody comic (I think it was the same one that had Skippy) sort of predicted Disney's eventual take over of the franchise. Odd isn't it?
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The clowns over at the RLM subreddit are angry that the prequel trilogy is so beloved in spite of the Plinkett Reviews*. Here they try to parse out why.


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The Plinkett Reviews are overblown nerd wank.
 
The clowns over at the RLM subreddit are angry that the prequel trilogy is so beloved in spite of the Plinkett Reviews*. Here they try to parse out why.


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The Plinkett Reviews are overblown nerd wank.
The Plinkett Prequel reviews are fun and entertaining, not to mention informative, but the people who swear by them and claim it "showed them the light" about the Prequels are just obnoxious.
 
This is not a big issue but I've seen some people praise Rey being "a nobody" not tied to any previous famous Jedi because the idea of some bloodline being superpowerful doesn't sit well with them but uh.....isn't that already the case due to her powers coming from her mindlink with Kylo and thus tied to the Skywalkers? She's a proxy for one.

I kinda get it but it falls apart once you consider what they also established. Besides, it's not like you can't include people who rival them in stories anyways. Anakin's not-Jesus in potential and still got his ass kicked by Obi-Wan, a man who was barely qualified to be a Jedi but trains his ass off. It's not like Naruto where being born in some special family means you are immeasurably more powerful than your peers.

I'm bringing it up cause I saw a video that made a mention of TLJ that implied any "Is Rey related to..." theories sound eugenics-y which seems like a step too far to me and like they misunderstand how it works.
 
The Plinkett Prequel reviews are fun and entertaining, not to mention informative, but the people who swear by them and claim it "showed them the light" about the Prequels are just obnoxious.
I agree since they think the Plinkett prequel reviews are the magnum opus of film criticism and try to show everyone else who likes the prequels those reviews as a way to enlighten them which is annoying and very condescending.


I say this as someone who enjoyed Revenge of the Sith and rate it highly along with the OT.
 
So here is rumors on what characters the actor might play:
Keri Russell could be the new version of Mara Jade, Rey Mom, a First order or Resistance officer or a Knight of Ren and thus a student of Luke (Her character share quite a few scenes with Kylo btw so she could be important)
Richard E. Grant could be Thrawn (too much unlikely), a first order crime Lord or Rey's dad
Veranada Calrissian (no really) has a posse and one them is a jerk with a heart of gold played by Dominic Moaghan that gets in a situation after he laugh at Poe after being confronted
Matt Smith could be a younger Emperor Palpatine visited by Kylo using the Time Travel Anus or a new FO villain
Any opinions on these leaks and rumors?
 
My only actual grievances with the prequels (aside from the way George forced Hayden to act) are mainly two things. First, I don't like Naboo. Not one bit. Its basically spring-time Alderaan with an incredibly terrible political system that even allows teenagers to run in an election to pick a monarch, and yes I know there have been explanations that state that Naboo used to be a monarchy, but due to corruption they became a democracy with the title of monarch simply remaining for the sake of tradition (even though she still acts like one), but Naboo will always feel unnecessary, stupid and a missed opportunity to introduce Alderaan's landscape and culture to the casual non-comic reading audiences, which they don't get until ROTS. The second issue I have is that, in my opinion, the films should've taken place a little bit further back in the past from the OT. I mean, its kinda hard to imagine that the Empire was easily able to gain complete control and shift galactic society to an imperial trusting one while erasing all history in less than 17 years, despite that people in their 30s or over should be able to remember the Jedi who were probably all over the galactic news and the holonet, yet it seems everyone's all but forgotten (and the shorter timeframe and Padme's death during the birth raises the question as to how Leia knew what she looked like, but one could dismiss that as her seeing her mother in a vision or confusing her step-mother with the person Luke wanted to know about). Although admittedly even within that short time frame one could argue that the Empire had some really strict enforcement and censorship going on which is established in some prequel books and comics, and it was all easily made possible due to Palpatine having been given completely control of galactic economy just prior to the Empire's founding, so it works (and there are probably some real world examples of swift cultural and political change in a country within a short time frame). Unlike with TFA where there's no censorship or oppression going on since the First Order was technically working in the shadows yet people forgot about Luke, the Jedi, the Death Star and the Force, only remembering them as the stuff of legends, yet they remember Han Solo and his blasted 12 parsecs even though new media says there's been no censorship going on, but I guess JJ really wanted to do the whole ANH 2.0 to a tittle.

However I still prefer the pre-prequel explanation which had the Clone Wars take place 35 years before ANH (and that the clones were actually used by the anti-Republic faction) and thus the Empire would've been in control for 30 years rather than 17, but that's just minor. Another issue I see over the PT is complaints that it all looks too futuristic for the setting, but one has to remember that the OT took place on backwater worlds with the exception of Bespin (as well as Rebel bases which were built in desperate times), and Bespin's overall aesthetic matches up well with what we see in the PT (specifically Coruscant and Kamino), while the backwater planets in the PT, like Tatooine, Geonosis and Kashyyyk match up well with what we've seen in the OT, EU and the Holiday Special.

In the end, the PT has many problems, but most of them aren't as "OH NO! THIS DESTROYS MY CHILDHOOD!" as some people like to exaggerate, especially after the RLM review and the constant jabbing by media. The problems are just stupid or forgettable at worst, and I say this as someone who would've preferred something different (way different), but was never vocal about it. And on a similar note, while Jar Jar himself can be obnoxious, I've seen that such a character can actually be done well, as seen in the Shakespearean adaptation of Episode I. All they needed to do was give a hint that he was more than just a fool. And no, he's not a sith, just a clumsy but fearful idealist who is cautious yet distrustful of the humans who claimed his home planet, and it doesn't come off as preachy (or an example of the noble savage trope) since in the end he realizes there's more to humans than he thought.
 
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So here is rumors on what characters the actor might play:
Keri Russell could be the new version of Mara Jade, Rey Mom, a First order or Resistance officer or a Knight of Ren and thus a student of Luke (Her character share quite a few scenes with Kylo btw so she could be important)
I've been hearing rumors about Mara Jade or a Mara Jade-inspired character being in the movie. Supposedly the red head kid from Solo is actually Mara Jade...

Richard E. Grant could be Thrawn (too much unlikely), a first order crime Lord or Rey's dad
Haven't heard anything about Thrawn being in the film, but recently Filoni did confirm that Thrawn was alive but that he hasn't decided what to do with him, so its likely Thrawn won't be in IX since Filoni's comment means Thrawn is still under his control.

Veranada Calrissian (no really) has a posse and one them is a jerk with a heart of gold played by Dominic Moaghan that gets in a situation after he laugh at Poe after being confronted
First time I'm hearing this.

Matt Smith could be a younger Emperor Palpatine visited by Kylo using the Time Travel Anus or a new FO villain
I mentioned this one before. The 'Matt Smith as Palpatine' rumor seems to be all over the web at this point, more so than the other rumors, so that one seems likely.

Any opinions on these leaks and rumors?
Only new thing I've heard is about Lando's daughter (I guess Lando's son from the old lore was not inclusive enough unless made female), who some have told me is the girl with the big messy afro seen in a lot of spoiler pics.
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Most won't stop talking about how "revolutionary" this is. Literally how? Although I would find it funny if they'll reveal that this really is Lando Jr. and that he trooned out to make Poe's romance with zher be more diverse.
 
How many new Force powers do you think Rey will gain in Episode IX?
 
How many new Force powers do you think Rey will gain in Episode IX?
My guess is the movie will have a super SUPER Starkiller or a Star Destroyer (a shittier version of the Eclipse or the Oppressor or just another pizza slice ship) that can actually destroy stars which Rey in the end will block its beam/bomb with nothing but the force and destroy it by herself while big booming bass speakers (not sure what the proper term for that is) plays with the music in the scene like a Transformers film (that kind of bass speaker noise in the TFA trailer and parts of soundtrack felt really unnecessary to me and almost every movie does it now).
 
My guess is the movie will have a super SUPER Starkiller or a Star Destroyer (a shittier version of the Eclipse or the Oppressor or just another pizza slice ship) that can actually destroy stars which Rey in the end will block its beam/bomb with nothing but the force and destroy it by herself while big booming bass speakers (not sure what the proper term for that is) plays with the music in the scene like a Transformers film (that kind of bass speaker noise in the TFA trailer and parts of soundtrack felt really unnecessary to me and almost every movie does it now).
Well a rumor is Palpatine might gives plans or a new superweapon to Kylo so if that's the case is it going to be Death Star IV or something that doesn't like a moon?
Rate me optimistic that Palpatine isn't wasted on that shit
 
Well a rumor is Palpatine might gives plans or a new superweapon to Kylo so if that's the case is it going to be Death Star IV or something that doesn't like a moon?
Rate me optimistic that Palpatine isn't wasted on that shit
If its the Sun Crusher, it'll just complete the missing key keeping these films from being a perfectly shitty adaptation of the already shitty Jedi Academy Trilogy. And funnily enough, (I've said this before) but the pilot of the Sun Crusher looks like the bastard amalgamated child of Kylo Ren and Poe Dameron (if Kylo didn't look so egh). Hell even his name feels like a combination of the two, "Kyp Durron".
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Its eery.
 
My guess is the movie will have a super SUPER Starkiller or a Star Destroyer (a shittier version of the Eclipse or the Oppressor or just another pizza slice ship) that can actually destroy stars which Rey in the end will block its beam/bomb with nothing but the force and destroy it by herself while big booming bass speakers (not sure what the proper term for that is) plays with the music in the scene like a Transformers film (that kind of bass speaker noise in the TFA trailer and parts of soundtrack felt really unnecessary to me and almost every movie does it now).
I'm talking about an increase in the number of powers, not an increase in power generally.

Myself, I'm thinking that Rey will get something generally metaphysical in nature and relatively game/story-breaking. It will most likely be (space)time manipulation and soul manipulation, given the current rumors, or some sort of reality bending Force power, such as something that affects causality.
 
If its the Sun Crusher, it'll just complete the missing key keeping these films from being a perfectly shitty adaptation of the already shitty Jedi Academy Trilogy. And funnily enough, (I've said this before) but the pilot of the Sun Crusher looks like the bastard amalgamated child of Kylo Ren and Poe Dameron (if Kylo didn't look so egh). Hell even his name feels like a combination of the two, "Kyp Durron".
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I wonder if any other writer managed to salvage Kyp Durron at all after K.J Anderson?

Small new rumor is Kylo gets a new helmet that's reforged with red crystalline material to represent corruption
 
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This is not a big issue but I've seen some people praise Rey being "a nobody" not tied to any previous famous Jedi because the idea of some bloodline being superpowerful doesn't sit well with them but uh.....isn't that already the case due to her powers coming from her mindlink with Kylo and thus tied to the Skywalkers? She's a proxy for one.

There is no issue, in isolation, of a force-using protagonist with no family connection to a famous Jedi bloodline. I can entertain and even agree with the argument that the ST should have moved on away from the Skywalker/Solo families. The drama of some nobody from a nobody family working hard to excel at Luke's academy and that drive for power and prestige could be fertile ground for character arcs and drama, right?

The problem is that the ST refuses to move on, and I could understand why - using previous actors and character as a bridge could have worked out well to give the new trilogy legs. (Assuming they did it right, which they did not.) By giving Rey so much ridiculous Force power and continually building up questions about her parentage indirectly and directly with other characters asking such portentous questions (Is it she? Chould it be?) the audience was set up to expect something. Anything, really, instead of nothing.

The Plinkett Reviews are overblown nerd wank.

Nah.
 
My only actual grievances with the prequels (aside from the way George forced Hayden to act) are mainly two things. First, I don't like Naboo. Not one bit. Its basically spring-time Alderaan with an incredibly terrible political system that even allows teenagers to run in an election to pick a monarch, and yes I know there have been explanations that state that Naboo used to be a monarchy, but due to corruption they became a democracy with the title of monarch simply remaining for the sake of tradition (even though she still acts like one), but Naboo will always feel unnecessary, stupid and a missed opportunity to introduce Alderaan's landscape and culture to the casual non-comic reading audiences, which they don't get until ROTS. The second issue I have is that, in my opinion, the films should've taken place a little bit further back in the past from the OT. I mean, its kinda hard to imagine that the Empire was easily able to gain complete control and shift galactic society to an imperial trusting one while erasing all history in less than 17 years, despite that people in their 30s or over should be able to remember the Jedi who were probably all over the galactic news and the holonet, yet it seems everyone's all but forgotten (and the shorter timeframe and Padme's death during the birth raises the question as to how Leia knew what she looked like, but one could dismiss that as her seeing her mother in a vision or confusing her step-mother with the person Luke wanted to know about). Although admittedly even within that short time frame one could argue that the Empire had some really strict enforcement and censorship going on which is established in some prequel books and comics, and it was all easily made possible due to Palpatine having been given completely control of galactic economy just prior to the Empire's founding, so it works (and there are probably some real world examples of swift cultural and political change in a country within a short time frame). Unlike with TFA where there's no censorship or oppression going on since the First Order was technically working in the shadows yet people forgot about Luke, the Jedi, the Death Star and the Force, only remembering them as the stuff of legends, yet they remember Han Solo and his blasted 12 parsecs even though new media says there's been no censorship going on, but I guess JJ really wanted to do the whole ANH 2.0 to a tittle.

However I still prefer the pre-prequel explanation which had the Clone Wars take place 35 years before ANH (and that the clones were actually used by the anti-Republic faction) and thus the Empire would've been in control for 30 years rather than 17, but that's just minor. Another issue I see over the PT is complaints that it all looks too futuristic for the setting, but one has to remember that the OT took place on backwater worlds with the exception of Bespin (as well as Rebel bases which were built in desperate times), and Bespin's overall aesthetic matches up well with what we see in the PT (specifically Coruscant and Kamino), while the backwater planets in the PT, like Tatooine, Geonosis and Kashyyyk match up well with what we've seen in the OT, EU and the Holiday Special.

In the end, the PT has many problems, but most of them aren't as "OH NO! THIS DESTROYS MY CHILDHOOD!" as some people like to exaggerate, especially after the RLM review and the constant jabbing by media. The problems are just stupid or forgettable at worst, and I say this as someone who would've preferred something different (way different), but was never vocal about it. And on a similar note, while Jar Jar himself can be obnoxious, I've seen that such a character can actually be done well, as seen in the Shakespearean adaptation of Episode I. All they needed to do was give a hint that he was more than just a fool. And no, he's not a sith, just a clumsy but fearful idealist who is cautious yet distrustful of the humans who claimed his home planet, and it doesn't come off as preachy (or an example of the noble savage trope) since in the end he realizes there's more to humans than he thought.

The sequels I won't watch now, if I do I will download, as I am not in the habit of rewarding the stupidity of the producers who greenlit the flaming turds that they stuck Star Wars tm on. They've been shockingly tone deaf in their handling of the series, with the safe remake of a New Hope for the first episode with some of the worst plot holes I've ever seen in a franchise, to that abortion TLJ which killed any enthusiasm I had as a casual fan for the series.

The prequels in-and-of-themselves are alright in their own way, but I can't help but watching them now that they were a missed opportunity for something better, and I think part of the reason that they weren't as good as the original trilogy is simply a matter of George Lucas being unchallenged as the director and script writer.

George has produced some amazing scripts, and even some of his directing efforts have been good, so if anything we know from his other properties outside of Star Wars that he is able to write effective and fun movies that were up to a point formuliac. There is always thematically a hero, usually a mentor figure, the token comedy characters, and you can see this throughout Star Wars, Indiana Jones, and Willow, and it works. Where I think the failure for the prequels really lied is in the fact that George didn't have anyone who would challenge him on any of the ideas, and thereby cause some self examination, instead it was purely what Lucas wanted and as a result it didn't really take off.

The Phantom Menace should have been the corner stone of which to launch the three prequels, but it wasn't utilized in this way.

Instead it was a very generic Star Wars themed film, that could have easily been a separate entry, and I view it as such. It has aside from tenuous connections to the characters no recognizable effects on the other two films and this is poorly handled writing.

If you know that you have a guaranteed set of sequels, and you are going to get those films made, then you need to start crafting the story from the first scene of the first film, and it needs to carry through to those sequels.

In Phantom that is just not the case. You have the comedic characters, but also comedic characters, don't bring C3PO and R2D2 into the story, while you have Jar Jar. It's too much. Jar Jar could have had a really great character development, instead he is just a comedic relief tool the entire film, and that's why audiences find him grating, and he was phased out for other films. People don't just like idiots, they like love-able idiots, Jar Jar was just an idiot.

You have an overarching plotline that could have been made interesting, but just becomes boring as everything that the trade federation does is tied down in political minutae. While it should be a massive threat to the republic period. And it should have been invading Alderaan and not Naboo, which would have tied it in to the franchise quite nicely.

You have a sinister rise of the Emperor plot that is boring, and the big bad guy in the film it wholly under utilized. The Emperor should not have been a persona in the film, he should have been a voice from the darkness, and Palpatine should have only made an actual appearance at the end of the film, hailed as a hero who rose above the rank and file of the Senate to liberate Alderaan. His Julius Caesar moment.

Everything we know about Darth Maul comes from later additions to the story, not the film itself, and so the character really has no motivations ever other than he has a flashy light sabre and he's ohhh scary. Maul should have been the big bad and have that carry over to the second film where he is then defeated by Kenobi. His death and Qui-Gon's as a result were meaningless.

Finally Anakin should have been older, a teenager and already showing signs that he would likely stray to the dark side if not. They also should have established the relationship between him and Padme early as it adds to the story and doesn't make it awkward in the next episode when Padme looks like a cradle robber.

Instead you have the two other films that try to tie into each other and as a result don't mesh very well, there isn't enough time between action sequences to have character development, and honestly Anakin's fall to the dark side is probably still on of the most lamest heel turns for a major character that I've ever seen and literally de-legitimizes his redemption in ROTJ because of how flippant it is.
 
Although I would find it funny if they'll reveal that this really is Lando Jr. and that he trooned out to make Poe's romance with zher be more diverse.

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